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DoctorDub

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No MK is garbage you don't know what you're saying, his range is poop and his kill power is hella weak. All with his poor neutral spells "garbage character".
If you think that he's literally that bad, clearly, you've never seen a half decent meta-knight.
He isn't the worst. I can't tell what's up with you and why you're so aggressive. Did I **** in your cheerios?
 
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Alacion

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I wish I could see her actual hitbubbles and Luma's too. Rosalina has freaking disjoint on her disjoint.
Plus Link is such a terribly designed character. Why does he even have a sword and clawshot when characters without weapons or tethers have better reach that him?! He has terrible mobility and a frame 7 jab that clacks with frame 1 jabs and then his jab gets nerfed. :facepalm:
Stat-wise SSB4 Link is better but in how he preforms SSBB Link is better (which is saying a lot). Link is actually more of a punching bag in SSB4 and lost a lot of his ATs.
Rosalina's moves are already a sword and Luma is a further extension of said sword.
 

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Rosalina's moves are already a sword and Luma is a further extension of said sword.
I don't know how to punish her. Rosa's Uair/Dair/Utilt and Usmash all seem to have better horizontal range than Link's Fair/Bair. I'm having a really hard time estimating Luma and her disjoint.
 

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Btw, @ DoctorDub DoctorDub if you ever come across another MK and they land that combo on you, DI the second hit of his Up-B down and to the side you're getting hit towards.

The same thing applies to every killing Up-B, tbh, including Zelda's, ZSS's and whoever else except for Ness lol. If you DI down you get sent in a VERY horizontal trajectory and don't get killed unless you're really close to the side blastline as well.
 

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If you think that he's literally that bad, clearly, you've never seen a half decent meta-knight.
He isn't the worst. I can't tell what's up with you and why you're so aggressive. Did I **** in your cheerios?
i've seen many MKs ranging from good to bad and all of them were terribad. He's trash bruh.
 

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I don't know how to punish her. Rosa's Uair/Dair/Utilt and Usmash all seem to have better horizontal range than Link's Fair/Bair. I'm having a really hard time estimating Luma and her disjoint.
Experiment with her just a bit :) Juggling with her is fun.
 

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Btw, @ DoctorDub DoctorDub if you ever come across another MK and they land that combo on you, DI the second hit of his Up-B down and to the side you're getting hit towards.
I know, but it's just so ****in' fast. I only realise it's happened after I'm dead, because he's taken me all the way up to the top blast zone.
 

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Ah.
Well I'm still not going back to it the music started to numb my brain.:drshrug:
Turn the music off? There is a volume slider on your 3DS.
If you think that he's literally that bad, clearly, you've never seen a half decent meta-knight.
He isn't the worst. I can't tell what's up with you and why you're so aggressive. Did I **** in your cheerios?
He is a Meta Knight main

and a huge troll
lol
 

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Who the **** said Meta-Knight is bad?
Whoever you are, you lied to me.
I just died to Up-air > Up-air > Up-air > Up-air > Up-air > Up-air > Up-air > Up-air > Up-air > Up-air > Up-air > Up-B
From 0% to 40%
**** that.
That did 40%? Wow, MK's damage output was good that day.
 

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So I was playing FG earlier before I went out and I came across this fairly decent Roastaluma. I used Shulk for the first two matches, then went Zelda, and after I won the first match with Zelda they changed their tags to "ZELDAOP" "GOSHLK"
mfw
Peach really.png
 

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I know, but it's just so ****in' fast. I only realise it's happened after I'm dead, because he's taken me all the way up to the top blast zone.
Yeah it was just a case of MU inexperience, just laying it out there in case you didn't know. Even if a character is below average, you can't really underestimate their tools :).
 

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Yeah it was just a case of MU inexperience, just laying it out there in case you didn't know. Even if a character is below average, you can't really underestimate their tools :).
Yeah, this is literally the first good MetaKnight I've ever seen, let alone play.
 

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Turn the music off? There is a volume slider on your 3DS.
I can't decide between deafening silence or repetitive music. I could listen to other music while playing but that always feels weird to me. :/
 

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Or you can be like half of For Glory and greatly overestimate their opponent and make the following remarks:

"ZELDAOP"
"NOZELDAPLS"
"BAN•ZELDA"
"FcKZELDA"
"FK U"
"CHEATER"

And we wonder why Zelda never gets buffed. *sigh*
 
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kenniky

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I can't decide between deafening silence or repetitive music. I could listen to other music while playing but that always feels weird to me. :/
I guess.

I'm kind of paranoid about stuff running out of battery and always have been so I almost never played with sound on. Kind of sad actually if you think about it because I played through like 10 Pokemon games without hearing any music
 

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I plan on looking into them, although I've heard alooooooooooooot of mixed things about the series, lots of people saying its good and lots saying it's bad. I'm more interested in looking into Xenogears before Saga though.
Well it's turn-based fyi, and the story does get really compl
Yeah it was just a case of MU inexperience, just laying it out there in case you didn't know. Even if a character is below average, you can't really underestimate their tools :).
For sure. I fought a Mac a couple days ago; threw out a charged Phantom, and pretended to go in on him with FW. He threw out his KO expecting me to appear on top of him...but I reappeared behind my Phantom. Totally not an accident...
 

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In two consecutive matches, I landed Falcon Punches in Falcon dittos. In the first one, it was an airdodge trap. It didn't kill because I hit at the tip, so I just DAir meteored him to win. The second one he tried to FAir me as it was coming out, missed, and got punched.

It's funny how afraid people are of the move. It's not even that strong.
 

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It's funny how afraid people are of the move. It's not even that strong.
This. Like it was kind of ridiculous in Melee because lol Melee but you get hit with it in Sm4sh and it's like "ok I took like 20% damage but lol now I can fsmash you"
 

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Or you can be like half of For Glory and greatly overestimate their opponent and make the following remarks:

"ZELDAOP"
"NOZELDAPLS"
"BAN•ZELDA"
"***ZELDA"
"FK U"
"CHEATER"

And we wonder why Zelda never gets buffed. *sigh*
i wish i got these. usually i get the usual salt post and that i was boring. which insults me because i think i'm the ONLY Zelda that hangs out in the air like she's Peach :v
 

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Ok i'm done, if your close to the blast zone and MK has around 50% rage you'll die regardless of DI. If you DI the way Ferno stated that will only make it easier to uair combo, that's exactly what seaguall jo did against Unknown.

actually the whole point of uair x4 into shuttle loop is to rack up damage, killing is kinda disrespectful tbh that's like an after thought for MKs.

MK isn't bad or 'below average'i would say top 20 in defaults but in customs he's wack, not like he gets worse but characters get so much better than him. Marth gets a stupid grab release on him, that's a perfect example on how dumb customs is for MK.

Yeah, this is literally the first good MetaKnight I've ever seen, let alone play.
I'll play you sometime if you want.
 
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DoctorDub

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Ok i'm done, if your close to the blast zone and MK has around 50% rage you'll die regardless of DI. If you DI the way Ferno stated that will only make it easier to uair combo, that's exactly what seaguall jo did against Unknown.

actually the whole point of uair x4 into shuttle loop is to rack up damage, killing is kinda disrespectful tbh that's like an after thought for MKs.

MK isn't bad or 'below average'i would say top 20 in defaults but in customs he's wack, not like he gets worse but characters get so much better than him. Marth gets a stupid grab release on him, that's a perfect example on how dumb customs is for MK.



I'll play you sometime if you want.
You took advantage of my current saltiness to bring it up to dangerous levels.
It hurts to even read past "Ok, I'm done"
**** you, you glorious bugger.

But I guess it'd help if I played you at some point.
I really have no idea what the hell to do against that speedy little ****.
 
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MK isn't bad or 'below average'i would say top 20 in defaults but in customs he's wack, not like he gets worse but characters get so much better than him. Marth gets a stupid grab release on him, that's a perfect example on how dumb customs is for MK.
Aside from High Speed Drill, are any of his customs worth anything at all? I tried them out before I knew how to use him and even then I thought they sucked. I think I picked a Tornado custom (which I probably wouldn't now). The forward Shuttle Loop seems okay but Lazy Shuttle Loop seems like complete garbage. Down-B options would be okay if the default wasn't so good.
 

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I'd say that Zelda is Top 30 both customs on and off
I think she's top 51 tbh.

Well, the bottom of the top 51.

... In other words, the bottom of the entire roster. Hmm.
 
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