Yoshi Combos on Floaties?

[th3kuzinator]

Hey Evr1.
Though 0-death combos come easily for heavies, I am having a really hard time finding some good combos for light charactersw/ yoshi (probably bcuz i use utilt too much).
Heres is what I have so far:
DJC'd f-air into djc nair --> dash attack, continue with djc nair chain if possible?
DJC nairs in the **** tent
(Depending on Percent) DJC f-air (if hit on the ground) ---> usmash, fsmash, yoshi bomb, djc uair --> egg

Any yoshi player have someting to add to this list? Any help is appreciated.
-Kuzi

 

[blaze3927]

i've found this mildly annoying aswell,

ftilt still works great
dash is good
nair is best, make sure you continue momentum but
utilt is kinda useless

 

[SheerMadness]

You can chain 3-4 nairs on any floaty.

DJC fair - djc nair - djc nair - djc nair - djc nair - fair

DJC fair - djc nair - dash attack - f-tilt - fair

DJC bair - djc nair - dash attack - dash attack - fair

Theres a million variations to those but they are 3 good examples of typical combos vs floaties.

Chaining nairs takes some getting used to.

You can basically only combo floaties horizontally, which is fine though cause in a lot of cases that takes them off the edge for an easy spike.

DJC fairs/bairs are you starters and nairs/dash attacks/f-tilts/double jabs are your chains and setups while fair is usually your finisher.

 

[ballin4life]

You can also ftilt -> dash attack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7Ttl6bzNjk

Utilt can combo too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeEGmcokEtU

Plus some more random combos showing nair chains:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCWrcljfUVs

 

[SSBPete]

fair --> nair --> ftilt --> dash
i find it a little harder then nair combos because the nair to ftilt is fairly hard but can be done with a bit of practise.

i have several 0-deaths on floaties in my new combo vid which should be up really soon. lots i have never seen done before.

also on jiggs
fair --> ftilt --> dash --> ftilt
one of the easier floaty combos to pull off.

 

[Tambor]

don't forget dash->dash->dash->dash->dash->dash-> (ok, i'm exaggerating).
finish with ftilt->fair or just fair depending on how close you are to the edge.
works great against really floaty chars, like samus, jiggs and luigi.

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

grounded up tilt to up air is a guaranteed kill vs all floaties, I think for jiggs it i at 80, for kirby it is at 80, and for Samus it is at 110 or something similar.

my kills usually vs floaties otherwise are either DJC based spam combos or F-air to something (I.E. down b, back air if they are closed, etc)

 

[The Star King]

Yoshi can't do utilt -> uair on Jiggs, what are you smoking.

Maybe you're thinking of fair -> uair?

 

[Tambor]

Yoshi can't do utilt -> uair on Jiggs

yes he can

 

[asianaussie]

I think he can so long as Jiggs is on the ground and he does everything perfectly.

 

[SheerMadness]

I just don't see why you'd ever want to try to uptilt vs floaties.

I mean the only place you can combo with it is under the 2 lower platforms on dreamland (I guess under the stairs on hyrule too). Even then I've always found uptilt/upair combos on dreamland far less reliable than just comboing them horizontally off the stage for an easy spike since dreamland is so small.

And if you catch their shield after a djc'ed aerial it's far better to keep djc'ing aerials on them and break their shield rather than uptilting their shield.

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

^^ As I said before also, I don't use up tilt that much also, just if the opponent falls for it. I mostly use Short hop or DJC back air/N-air/F-air and down tilt/eggs vs Jigglypuff. Some of my other kills are DJCC's into down b.

For Kirby, I prefer not to play this matchup but i use more down tilt when I do play it and more eggs.

 

[mr yo]

grounded up tilt to up air is a guaranteed kill vs all floaties, I think for jiggs it i at 80, for kirby it is at 80, and for Samus it is at 110 or something similar.

my kills usually vs floaties otherwise are either DJC based spam combos or F-air to something (I.E. down b, back air if they are closed, etc)

Yoshi can't do utilt -> uair on Jiggs, what are you smoking.

Maybe you're thinking of fair -> uair?

yes he can

i play a lot with jigly and no matter how fast yoshi jumps after doing the uptilt....he is very far of reaching jigly with anny attack (excep egg, maybe) if jigly pres up repeatledy
to jump and avoid it....yoshi´s up tilt on jigly is not a viable option: doesnt kill, doesnt combo, and leaves you beneath jigly......

you can only throw an egg...but it can be avoid o neutralized with a nair...

uptilt uair would only work on a very lousy jigly, but is not a combo

 

[blaze3927]

^^it CAN be a combo. and it is mildly effective. it will kill a jiggs at 80% and is a good PANIC move if that LOUSY jiggs fails at a bair or something. it can work on any jiggs

 

[MATTS!]

Listen you noob yoshi players....

The spacing of the combo is all that matters...


But for kirby and jiggs, left to right is pretty much the only way for a good combo with yoshi vs kirby or jiggs.

all that sh.it up in the air is pointless and dumb and you will lose... unless they are at high percent and you can jump up and swing yoshi's a.ss around in the air and slam down on the dude in mid air, which is yoshi down+b.


Besides that the shield break with the DJC and hitting works to if you can get the timing right... besides that Yoshi vs. kirby or jiggs is trash..


The Great MATTS!

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

Yoshi vs Jigglypuff is fine due to Yoshi being able to approach without being LOLuptilted or LOLdownaired. The matchup is actually even.

Yoshi vs Kirby is trash. It is one of Yoshi's 3 terrible matchups along with Pikachu (on either) and Fox (on Hyrule). Kirb,y Pikachu, and Fox are the reason why Yoshi isn't technically viable.

Learn the difference *sniff*

and stop saying that up tilt to up air does not work as Yoshi vs Jigglypuff or Kirby

It only works if the jigglypuff/kirby are GROUNDED. I usually kill with a F-air or N-air into something as well (As well as short hop down air into something if the opponent's DI is dumb). or possibly an f-tilt

i hate the Yoshi Kirby match regardless of if I can win at it.

 

[Smasherx74]

Yoshi vs Jigglypuff is fine due to Yoshi being able to approach without being LOLuptilted or LOLdownaired. The matchup is actually even.

Yoshi vs Kirby is trash. It is one of Yoshi's 3 terrible matchups along with Pikachu (on either) and Fox (on Hyrule). Kirb,y Pikachu, and Fox are the reason why Yoshi isn't technically viable.

Learn the difference *sniff*

and stop saying that up tilt to up air does not work as Yoshi vs Jigglypuff or Kirby

It only works if the jigglypuff/kirby are GROUNDED. I usually kill with a F-air or N-air into something as well (As well as short hop down air into something if the opponent's DI is dumb). or possibly an f-tilt

i hate the Yoshi Kirby match regardless of if I can win at it.

The spacing of the combo is all that matters...

Spoiler

Don't read this part its so i can post.

 

[The Star King]

My apologies, I tried again and utilt->uair CAN work on Jigglypuff, it's just really hard to do reliably.

 

[rpotts]

My apologies, I tried again and utilt->uair CAN work on Jigglypuff, it's just really hard to do reliably.

lol of all the combos that you could say are hard to pull off consistently you choose utlit -> uair, LOL

 

[SSBPete]

I just don't see why you'd ever want to try to uptilt vs floaties.

I mean the only place you can combo with it is under the 2 lower platforms on dreamland (I guess under the stairs on hyrule too). Even then I've always found uptilt/upair combos on dreamland far less reliable than just comboing them horizontally off the stage for an easy spike since dreamland is so small.

sometimes when an upsmash in the tent area will just slam them into the tent and acheive very little, utilt > uair comes into play at high percentages for an easy kill.

also i think were forgetting yoshi can utilt > grounded down-b on characters such as pika. this is a lot harder to pull off during a match but can be highly effective.

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

i usually try to combo using down tilt, back air, or N-air if the opponent goes down to the wall area of Hyrule.

N-air works really well down there, I can also use the wall well since it seems to make Shield break combos easier for me.

 

[ballin4life]

sometimes when an upsmash in the tent area will just slam them into the tent and acheive very little, utilt > uair comes into play at high percentages for an easy kill.

also i think were forgetting yoshi can utilt > grounded down-b on characters such as pika. this is a lot harder to pull off during a match but can be highly effective.

It's actually easier to utilt down b heavies I think.

 

[The Star King]

lol of all the combos that you could say are hard to pull off consistently you choose utlit -> uair, LOL

Sadly utilt -> uair ON JIGGS is probably the hardest thing for me to do on this thread lol, unless I hit with the end of the animation.

EDIT: Just noticed Koro saying Yoshi's three terrible matchups is Kirby, Pika, and Fox, but I definitely think Falcon is at least just as bad as Fox, probably worse.

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

Sadly utilt -> uair ON JIGGS is probably the hardest thing for me to do on this thread lol, unless I hit with the end of the animation.

EDIT: Just noticed Koro saying Yoshi's three terrible matchups is Kirby, Pika, and Fox, but I definitely think Falcon is at least just as bad as Fox, probably worse.

Falcon is actually a pretty even matchup, what are you smoking?

I stay even/beat every single falcon I have ever played with Yoshi. Yoshi can DJCC/get out of more combos than any other character vs Falcon and one up tilt means Falcon is dead.

Falcon is probably only worse on Dreamland since Fox sucks there.

 

[ballin4life]

If one utilt means falcon is dead, then surely one grab means yoshi is dead right?

 

[SSBPete]

fox and pika **** yoshi. falcon isnt too bad

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

If one utilt means falcon is dead, then surely one grab means yoshi is dead right?

Yoshi can DJCC out of many Falcon combos including most general Up air combos. what Pete said is right, the matchup with falcon is probably only 60-40 falcon.

 

[SheerMadness]

It's all opinions. For example, Fox is one of my easier matchups in the game. Only time I have trouble with him is if he camps the rapetent all game. Yoshi does extremely well vs Fox on dreamland and everywhere but the rapetent on hyrule IMO.

You can't really tell someone else what their hardest matchup is can you??

 

[dandan]

It's all opinions. For example, Fox is one of my easier matchups in the game. Only time I have trouble with him is if he camps the rapetent all game. Yoshi does extremely well vs Fox on dreamland and everywhere but the rapetent on hyrule IMO.

You can't really tell someone else what their hardest matchup is can you??

how do you feel about maddy's fox for example, i know he has played with you.

 

[SheerMadness]

I feel like I have the advantage vs him everywhere but the rapetent.

 

[The Star King]

It's all opinions. For example, Fox is one of my easier matchups in the game. Only time I have trouble with him is if he camps the rapetent all game. Yoshi does extremely well vs Fox on dreamland and everywhere but the rapetent on hyrule IMO.

You can't really tell someone else what their hardest matchup is can you??

Yeah in the same boat as you matchup-wise, but I guess the last part is true.

Why am I up at 4 in the morning?

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

fox in general is just **** in the rapetent

 

[Deleted member]

Falcon vs Yoshi is advantage Falcon. both characters have a fairly easy time ****** once they get the opening hit

but it's easier for Falcon to get that hit

Yoshi also has nothing on up-smash up-air x 7 up-b

 

[Tambor]

fox in general is just ****

fix'd that

 

[dandan]

Yoshi also has nothing on up-smash up-air x 7 up-b

yoshi can jump out of uair combos. or even better djcc the uair.

 

[rpotts]

somehow you're underestimating falcon players ability to true combo with uair. good DI helps a lot but many players find it particularly hard to DI out of uair chains.

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

somehow you're underestimating falcon players ability to true combo with uair. good DI helps a lot but many players find it particularly hard to DI out of uair chains.

Play PD, LOL.

Also, Yoshi cannot get out of Up smash up air * 7 Up B if the up airs are frame perfect.