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Yea, we can't make one before the release or just based on the demo, lol.
Yea, I hope he's Top Tier in Brawl.
WHAT?!?!??!
Have you seen the buffs this guy has gotten? I predict High Tier or Very High Tier.
Haha Yoshi is my main and that's the exact same story for me. People just underestimate him all the time.
It gets tricky having to face a really good Fox or Sheik though. You have to be careful about DJC, cause they'll waveshine (Fox) or Fair (Shiek) you to your grave.
Ummmmm...
Did you know he can use his UP B to recover now? You didn't sound like it (go to same link).
Alright, sorry about what I said in the other thread about him getting DJC taken away. All in all, I don't really use DJC too much in melee , I really just tried abuse it at higher percentages so that I can stay alive longer. I hate how if i accidentally DJC off the edge of the stage and end up dying. And its not like Yoshi was the only one to lose DJC, it was removed entirely from the game so even people like Lucas and Ness can't use it anymore either. In melee DJC was a great asset to have because it increased the overall speed of the character, but with the somewhat slower pace in brawl, I don't think it will be needed to make Yoshi a higher tier character.
Yea, I never thought about how no one has a DJC.Alright, sorry about what I said in the other thread about him getting DJC taken away. All in all, I don't really use DJC too much in melee , I really just tried abuse it at higher percentages so that I can stay alive longer. I hate how if i accidentally DJC off the edge of the stage and end up dying. And its not like Yoshi was the only one to lose DJC, it was removed entirely from the game so even people like Lucas and Ness can't use it anymore either. In melee DJC was a great asset to have because it increased the overall speed of the character, but with the somewhat slower pace in brawl, I don't think it will be needed to make Yoshi a higher tier character.
Yoshi looks a lot better this time around, as mentioned he's got a huge range buff to pretty much every attack, and he has a spammable triple jump. On top of that his ground speed looks much faster, and he looks like he has better control.
The changes Sakurai has made to Yoshi were very good. He was able to make him better without greatly changing the character, change isn't always a bad thing. I'm very happy with the Yoshi that we are going to get to play in brawl
His tongue grapple, what happens when you press z. Call it whatever you like.
You're ignoring a handicap yoshi has.
Once again, ignoring another handicap
It potentially will lead to the develop of advanced techniques specific to Yoshi's jumping style, but it's absurd to weigh these abilities as pros for yoshi when they haven't been discovered yet. Don't count your chickens before they hatch.
He does a grab like how he always did
What exactly are these handicaps that you are talking about. If you could elaborate more on these points so we can get a better understanding of what you are trying to get at.
Likewise, how can you weigh them against Yoshi? I can give you a couple reasons on how the removal of DJC that would definitely count as pros for him. With the lack of DJC, Yoshi's air game has improved tremendously, there's no reason to fear accidentally canceling your jump over a ledge and falling to your death anymore. Different combos present themselves to us now as we can make follow up attacks out of our double jump.
Like I said, every character has their weaknesses. What exactly is it that your talking about that makes Yoshi's weaknesses that much worst than any other characters'? Yes I can agree that Yoshi is probably not gonna rank too high on the tier list when some of the first lists come out. I mean, he's already ranked on the bottom of a list already and brawl isn't even a week old. Why? Probably due to the lack of popularity from melee because so many people give him a bad reputation so early on. People going around claiming he's a junk character because of what they've 'seen' so far, isn't helping to build him up a better fan base before the release in the US either. How about people just stop talking about the negative aspects of Yoshi so far and let other's find out on their own when they get to play the game. Tier lists arn't set in stone and it's only going to be a matter of time before the next greatest Yoshi player comes along and revolutionizes his play.
I think you mean his GRAB
As DstyCube said, what do you mean, "handicap"
If that's so, like DstyCube said, how can you count them against him?
Everyone has weaknesses in Brawl. Cry a river, build a bridge, and GET OVER IT.
Dude, calm down, this isn't war. Nobody needs to surrender. We are only have a civilized discussion.
Very good points, yoshinator. However, what does ECE stand for? lol.
(I checked the Melee terms again; wasn't there).
lol Thanks you guys. I'm very happy he can still ECE. You wouldn't believe how effective that is in tight situations. Really good players make the worst mistakes when under the pressure of falling green eggs. All Yoshi needs to throw now is some green ham (thank you Dr. Suess).
