Yes, how about you put your money where your mouth is?

[KAFOR]

I see people on these forums say "Krystal is the best choice" and Geno sucks". I challenge you. Name a character and list 3 good reasons why he/she/it should return (or shouldn't) to Brawl. Let's get started, shall we?

Marth

1. He is the face of Fire Emblem. There isn't one person that could dispute with me over that fact. Just like Mario is the face of his series, Link is the face of his series and Kirby as well. Marth is the most frequent person that comes to mind when the words 'Fire Emblem' are said. Wouldn't you agree?

2. He is going to star in another game, Fire Emblem DS. Wouldn't you agree that an appearance in Super Smash Bros. Brawl could better promote his game and lead to a significant boost in sales? I think so. This is also the only reason Roy made an appearance in Super Smash Bros. Melee; to promote his game.

3. Marth has had a starring role in more Fire Emblem games than any other Fire Emblem protagonist. This once again proves my first point. Marth's presence in Brawl is more important than anything Ike, Roy or Micaiah could offer, or Sigurd for that matter...

 

[Bassoonist]

Shouldn't be in:

Waluigi:

1. A useless filler character. He hasn't appeared outside of sports/party games.

2. He's very unoriginal in the first place. Luigi didn't need a rival. Luigi's cooler than that.

3. You don't need a third reason to say Waluigi shouldn't be in... Oh well, I guess his fanbase isn't that big either.

Should be in:

Isaac

1. A possible Golden Sun 3 may come out in the future, and it'd be nice to bring some attention to the underrated RPG series that is Golden Sun.

2. Isaac could bring so much to Super Smash Bros. He isn't just a "generic swordfighter". He has psynergy, and if it was applied to his moveset properly (which I doubt that wouldn't happen.), than we'd have an awesome and unique playable character.

3. More franchise representation? He has a large fanbase... There's tons of reasons.

Isaac best be playable, Waluigi best be AT or nothing.

 

[Your Hero]

lool Jet :]

 

[KAFOR]

Another reason for Waluigi is the fact that he lacks personality. He is rather useless. I agree wholeheartedly, Andrew14j.

 

[vesperview]

Is very easy to give 3 biased arguments to either support or not support a character, so I won't, these threads become flame wars most of the time when people disagree with you.

 

[smashbot226]

Who SHOULD'VE been playable:

Wolf O' Donnel

1. A recurring Star Fox villain, no, character, and has more popularity than Falco.

2. Since he is a bad guy and in Assault, if I am correct, has his own base, wouldn't be a Fox clone, but in fact a completely different character, though some moves may be derived from Fox.

3. Is the only good choice for a Star Fox villain, which is sorely needed.

 

[Zevox]

Why three reasons? Some really only need one. Like Tingle being hated throughout the world except in Japan, Captain Falcon being the main F-Zero representative for SSB, or Doctor Mario being redundant with Mario already in - what more do you need to know?

Zevox

 

[KAFOR]

Is very easy to give 3 biased arguments to either support or not support a character, so I won't, these threads become flame wars most of the time when people disagree with you.

I don't understand? The three points that I provided are in no way biased. Seeing as my three points, regarding Marth, are all fact. What so called "flame wars" will result from these actual facts?

 

[Kokaloo]

Midna:
1: Has a chance to have a very unique moveset, with or without Wolf Link.

2:She's a very important character to TP, and she has a very awesome personality.

3:Yeah sure, another TP character would be really milking it, but what's the point of having CSLink, Vaati when they come from games with a lighter sided art style. I see as how Sakurai is either going to stick with the more dark side of LoZ, or not and include Vaati and CSLink. And I guess I completely forgot about Sheik, making the Zelda series have 4 for sure. Having a cell-shaded link, or Vaati would just look very odd with the rest of the cast. And really, who wants the same characters from the old Smash Bros. when you can obviously fit one more?

 

[vesperview]

I don't understand? The three points that I provided are in no way biased. Seeing as my three points, regarding Marth, are all fact. What so called "flame wars" will result from these actual facts?

I wasn't talking about you!

 

[KAFOR]

Why three reasons? Some really only need one. Like Tingle being hated throughout the world except in Japan, Captain Falcon being the main F-Zero representative for SSB, or Doctor Mario being redundant with Mario already in - what more do you need to know?

Zevox

The reason I say three points is simple. It seems 80% of the users registered here are quick to judge a character without backing up their accusations. I say that if one cannot come up with three worthful reasons why a potential character shouldn't return/join the brawl, then they have no right to accuse said character of making a poor addition to the smash roster. This is, how you say, a way for them to prove themselves.

I wasn't talking about you!

I apologize for the misunderstanding.

 

[platnum]

Who should be in.



MOG.
reasons.

1.he's unique and unique is good.
2.is very popular.
3.has apeard on EVERY nintendo console(except N64).

 

[Zevox]

I say that if one cannot come up with three worthful reasons why a potential character shouldn't return/join the brawl, then they have no right to accuse said character of making a poor addition to the smash roster.

So in other words, its just an arbitrary number you chose.

Zevox

 

[Kokaloo]

Hey guys if you can't give at least 56 valid reasons on why a character should be in Brawl then he/she shouldn't be in at all.

 

[KAFOR]

So in other words, its just an arbitrary number you chose.

Zevox

Indeed. One must start somewhere, I suppose. It is better than one worthless biased answer I'm afraid.

Hey guys if you can't give at least 56 valid reasons on why a character should be in Brawl then he/she shouldn't be in at all.

If you are able to derive 56 valid reasons why a character should or should not be in Super Smash Bros. Brawl, I will indeed applaud you for your dedication in proving your opinions and I will have no problem respecting your opinions towards that specific character. Even if it is just a simple "Joe Blow sucks".

 

[xianfeng]

Reasons why Tingle should be in.

1. Has a massive fanbase everywhere in the world aside from the USA. When consdering what characters to put in Sakurai is going to aim for the majority and the US is only one country, the game isn't going to be specifically tailored to their needs.

2. He has not one but two of his own game, his first game an RPG "Tingle's Freshly Picked Rose Coloured Rupee Land" (or something similar to that) is also coming to Europe (and probably Australia) and has allready done quite well, it would probably need advertisement for the Europeans. His second game Tingle's Balloon Fight is not only the second game in his mini series but the third game in the retro series Balloon Fight debuting on the NES, getting a sequal on the Gameboy called Balloon Kid and now this. That represents not only Tingle's mini series and the Legend of Zelda but also the Balloon Fight series.

3. He is the fourth most recurring character in the Legend of Zelda franchise appearing in Majora's Mask, Oracle of Ages, The Minish Cap, Wind Waker, Four Sword Adventures and has a tiny cameo in Phantom Hourglass. So aside from Link, Zelda and Ganondorf he is the most recurring character, and probably one of the more recognisable characters from the franchise too. With a franchise such as LoZ as there is no consistant timeline it's hard to keep a consistant cast but Tingle has nade a whopping 5 appearances in the series, which is HUGE for any character without a piece of the triforce.

 

[KAFOR]

Reasons why Tingle should be in.

1. Has a massive fanbase everywhere in the world aside from the USA. When consdering what characters to put in Sakurai is going to aim for the majority and the US is only one country, the game isn't going to be specifically tailored to their needs.

2. He has not one but two of his own game, his first game an RPG "Tingle's Freshly Picked Rose Coloured Rupee Land" (or something similar to that) is also coming to Europe (and probably Australia) and has allready done quite well, it would probably need advertisement for the Europeans. His second game Tingle's Balloon Fight is not only the second game in his mini series but the third game in the retro series Balloon Fight debuting on the NES, getting a sequal on the Gameboy called Balloon Kid and now this. That represents not only Tingle's mini series and the Legend of Zelda but also the Balloon Fight series.

3. He is the fourth most recurring character in the Legend of Zelda franchise appearing in Majora's Mask, Oracle of Ages, The Minish Cap, Wind Waker, Four Sword Adventures and has a tiny cameo in Phantom Hourglass. So aside from Link, Zelda and Ganondorf he is the most recurring character, and probably one of the more recognisable characters from the franchise too. With a franchise such as LoZ as there is no consistant timeline it's hard to keep a consistant cast but Tingle has nade a whopping 5 appearances in the series, which is HUGE for any character without a piece of the triforce.

I now see why this character is important to your wishes. Your first point seems more opinionated than actual fact, but I respect your reasons.

 

[Kokaloo]

If you are able to derive 56 valid reasons why a character should or should not be in Super Smash Bros. Brawl, I will indeed applaud you for your dedication in proving your opinions and I will have no problem respecting your opinions towards that specific character. Even if it is just a simple "Joe Blow sucks".

I'd at least do 4 at a time to raise post count.

 

[vesperview]

Reasons why Tingle should be in.

1. Has a massive fanbase everywhere in the world aside from the USA. When consdering what characters to put in Sakurai is going to aim for the majority and the US is only one country, the game isn't going to be specifically tailored to their needs.

2. He has not one but two of his own game, his first game an RPG "Tingle's Freshly Picked Rose Coloured Rupee Land" (or something similar to that) is also coming to Europe (and probably Australia) and has allready done quite well, it would probably need advertisement for the Europeans. His second game Tingle's Balloon Fight is not only the second game in his mini series but the third game in the retro series Balloon Fight debuting on the NES, getting a sequal on the Gameboy called Balloon Kid and now this. That represents not only Tingle's mini series and the Legend of Zelda but also the Balloon Fight series.

3. He is the fourth most recurring character in the Legend of Zelda franchise appearing in Majora's Mask, Oracle of Ages, The Minish Cap, Wind Waker, Four Sword Adventures and has a tiny cameo in Phantom Hourglass. So aside from Link, Zelda and Ganondorf he is the most recurring character, and probably one of the more recognisable characters from the franchise too. With a franchise such as LoZ as there is no consistant timeline it's hard to keep a consistant cast but Tingle has nade a whopping 5 appearances in the series, which is HUGE for any character without a piece of the triforce.

Isn't Tingle deconfirmed?

 

[xianfeng]

I don't actually like Tingle too much, but still I know that he does have a very good chance of appearing in Brawl and like it or not he's become a series regular and chances are he will stay that way for a long time, either that or his series will expand like WarioWare did and he'll become his own indapendant character for his own series, either way he won't be gone for a long time.

Isn't Tingle deconfirmed?

Nope, there was a trophy of him but that doesn't by any stretch of the imagination deconfirm him 100%

 

[vesperview]

If tingle had even a remote chance of being in Brawl he wouldn't look like **** in the trophies section.

 

[xianfeng]

That's how he looks towards the end of his own game, it's not **** it's his apperance, there is a difference.

 

[vesperview]

That's how he looks towards the end of his own game, it's not **** it's his apperance, there is a difference.

He looks very N64-ish, any character would get an amazing 3D render for Brawl despite of his appearance in his original game.

 

[xianfeng]

Well he is not 100% deconfirmed, the trophy places him at 50/50.

 

[poncho_mcshoe]

Mewtwo should be in brawl.

1. It's a well-known, significant, one-of-a-kind pokemon, not just an anonymous member of a species.
2. It's pretty much as close to a villain figure as you can get for the pokemon games.
3. Kirby needs awesome hats.

 

[error_alt_delete]

ok I guess I'll list a few.
1.mewtwo should return
why?:
1.unique move set
2.popular character who just needs improvements
3.main villain(or thought to be) of pokemon.

2.megaman
why?:
1.the second most wanted third party character
2.very original possible movest(not samus clone, check his thread why if you dissagree)
3.if put in allows the continuation of an older good series(such as classic or X)
(ya ill keep going)
4.an Icon to gaming, he is along the lines of mario and sonic.(this is a matter of opinion though)
5.has been featured on many nintendo consoles.

waluigi(stay out)
why?
1.filler...nuff said

Daisy(stay out)
why?
1.peach clone
2.another filler

 

[xianfeng]

King K.Rool should be in.

1. The Donkey Kong series has sold 48 million units making it the ninth best selling video game series of all time having sold only 4 million less than the Legend of Zelda. The Kirby series has sold 30 million meaning it is equal with James Bong and behind Donkey Kong but 18 million. Now this is all relevant because the Kirby franchise a series which sells significantly less has three representatives while the Donkey Kong series which sells almost as much as the Legen of Zelda only has two representatives, it should clearly get at least one more to balance things out.

2. K.Rool is a villain, the Super Smash Brothers series has only three villains in it at the moment Dedede, Metaknight and Bowser. Allthough there is no rule on how many villains should be included I think and the majority seems to think that the villains should be in to balance out the good guys and give them a chance of being playable. K.Rool is the only main villain in the Donkey Kong franchise (DKR aside) that isn't a generic cookie cutter kong clone loser. Thus he would be the only good choice for a villain from the series.

3. K.Rool's moveset is just too unique to pass up on, this character has been a pirate, a king, a scientist and a boxer with all of these wacky gadgets and attacks from all of his forms he would have one of the most varied movesets. He would have a gun, a crown boomerang, throwing potions and what not and is also the only hope at a boxing type character now that Little Mac is a mere Assist Trophy.

 

[vesperview]

isn't a generic cookie cutter kong clone loser

You're talking about Jungle Beat right? I agree, it sucks!

 

[Andy4Brawl_911]

Andy (Advance Wars)

1) Nintendo Wars, is the longest, nintendo-active game series with no rep.

2) He is completely unique, background, story, appearance, moves... and he opens up to, other character like gun and bazooka absessed Sammi

3) His moves can go anywhere, since they would be based on his usage of items on the box arts and official artwork.... Also to do with Hobbies

 

[xianfeng]

You're talking about Jungle Beat right? I agree, it sucks!

Yes, yes I am and yes, yes it does, very much so.

 

[Andy4Brawl_911]

King K.Rool should be in.

2. K.Rool is a villain, the Super Smash Brothers series has only three villains in it at the moment Dedede, Metaknight and Bowser. .

Wario, is confirmed to play a part of a villian, in adventure mode in Brawl, from a vdeo shown at E For All.

 

[Bassoonist]

He looks very N64-ish, any character would get an amazing 3D render for Brawl despite of his appearance in his original game.

Think again, he's cel shaded - He looks like he does in Wind Waker.

 

[xianfeng]

Wario, is confirmed to play a part of a villian, in adventure mode in Brawl, from a vdeo shown at E For All.

I realise this but he himself is not a villainous character anymore.

 

[AIM0001]

King K.Rool should be in.

1. The Donkey Kong series has sold 48 million units making it the ninth best selling video game series of all time having sold only 4 million less than the Legend of Zelda. The Kirby series has sold 30 million meaning it is equal with James Bong and behind Donkey Kong but 18 million. Now this is all relevant because the Kirby franchise a series which sells significantly less has three representatives while the Donkey Kong series which sells almost as much as the Legen of Zelda only has two representatives, it should clearly get at least one more to balance things out.

2. K.Rool is a villain, the Super Smash Brothers series has only three villains in it at the moment Dedede, Metaknight and Bowser. Allthough there is no rule on how many villains should be included I think and the majority seems to think that the villains should be in to balance out the good guys and give them a chance of being playable. K.Rool is the only main villain in the Donkey Kong franchise (DKR aside) that isn't a generic cookie cutter kong clone loser. Thus he would be the only good choice for a villain from the series.

3. K.Rool's moveset is just too unique to pass up on, this character has been a pirate, a king, a scientist and a boxer with all of these wacky gadgets and attacks from all of his forms he would have one of the most varied movesets. He would have a gun, a crown boomerang, throwing potions and what not and is also the only hope at a boxing type character now that Little Mac is a mere Assist Trophy.

Well I was going to do K. Rool for this thread because not enough people support him but I think you pretty much covered everything I was going to say. Thanks

 

[xianfeng]

That's because K.Rool is awsome, who should I do next?

 

[~N9NE~]

Well he is not 100% deconfirmed, the trophy places him at 50/50.

If Tingle was going to be a playable character why would they show him as a trophy before we get the update revealing he is playable?

They wouldn't do that. It defies logic. The newcomers are kept secret until they are revealed.

 

[Reyairia]

Reasons why Tingle should be in.

1. Has a massive fanbase everywhere in the world aside from the USA. When consdering what characters to put in Sakurai is going to aim for the majority and the US is only one country, the game isn't going to be specifically tailored to their needs.

2. He has not one but two of his own game, his first game an RPG "Tingle's Freshly Picked Rose Coloured Rupee Land" (or something similar to that) is also coming to Europe (and probably Australia) and has allready done quite well, it would probably need advertisement for the Europeans. His second game Tingle's Balloon Fight is not only the second game in his mini series but the third game in the retro series Balloon Fight debuting on the NES, getting a sequal on the Gameboy called Balloon Kid and now this. That represents not only Tingle's mini series and the Legend of Zelda but also the Balloon Fight series.

3. He is the fourth most recurring character in the Legend of Zelda franchise appearing in Majora's Mask, Oracle of Ages, The Minish Cap, Wind Waker, Four Sword Adventures and has a tiny cameo in Phantom Hourglass. So aside from Link, Zelda and Ganondorf he is the most recurring character, and probably one of the more recognisable characters from the franchise too. With a franchise such as LoZ as there is no consistant timeline it's hard to keep a consistant cast but Tingle has nade a whopping 5 appearances in the series, which is HUGE for any character without a piece of the triforce.

Well, FINALLY someone realizes that Tingle has a fair chance in Brawl.
As for the trophy appearance, Classic Mode trophies anyone?

If Tingle was going to be a playable character why would they show him as a trophy before we get the update revealing he is playable?

They wouldn't do that. It defies logic. The newcomers are kept secret until they are revealed.

Sakurai has mentioned Ridley, so tell that to R.I.D.L.E.Y

 

[~N9NE~]

But why would they show him as a tropy before they revealed him?

 

[Reyairia]

But why would they show him as a tropy before they revealed him?

Why would they mention Ridley's appearance in a Metroid game as a boss before they revealed him?

Seriously, go post that "mentioning before revealing" argument in Ridley's thread. I dare you.

 

[Hydde]

Krystal and Ridely:

1-Both ranked high on the poll

2-Krystal is a girl, is the next best thing after fox and offers diversity which is the main reason. Ridley s the only worth for that 2nd rep spot from metroid. That almost ensure him a place since samus is so lonely and without love.

3-In fact . both would add unique fighting styles,, are very famous among fans and one of them is a legendary character in one of the legendary franchises from Nintendo.