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Yeah the wavedashing stuff gets old but...

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FalconPunch

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I'm 17. I hate playing with items because it's boring and too easy. I wavedash with some characters (Luigi, Mario, Doc) only when I need it. I main Falcon so I really don't need it. SHFFL is a huge part of my game. Also, I don't have a Gamecube.
 

Mama

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So the only reason you don't do adv. techs is because the people who you fight complain about it when you use them? They must be real mature 20 year olds (if that's their age IDK). If that's the only thing holding you back then look for better players/ tournaments. I mean there is a tournamnet discussion thread in this forum, divided into regional zones. I'm pretty sure you can drive to one.

When I face somebody worse than me I usually don't play to my fullest either. IDK if that's the best thing to do cuz it's kinda misleading them about how good they're acutually are compared to you... You could try playing with adv. techs one match, see how they react, and if they react badly, play them without them, and still own them.
I say a better idea would be to teach them. When I first learned them I thought that me and my friends were at the top of our game, thought we had taken our characters (Link for me, Fox, Marth, another Marth, Young Link) as far as they could go then one day a friend of mine who played as Marth discovered the existence of the advanced techniques. Instead of keeping the knowledge to himself and using them to pwn us he decided to share the wealth and we all began to practice together (which revived my love for the game).

Eventually we all made each other better players. I began using Ganondorf and Peach, (there was a lot of character experimenting with everyone) my bro learned when to incorporate the shine with Fox as well as a lot of other things Fox is good at >.> (wave shine to spike, shine spike, short hop u-air, etc) and the Marth's became much much better. Of course Wavedashing seemed like the coolest thing ever we soon saw through the hype and were able to look at it logically.

I "wave trot" with Peach simply because she looks cool in the start of the dash animation (almost like a ghost), as well as for mind games and in some cases successful evasion, but using it doesn't make me godly. SHHFLing, float canceling, knowing how and when to do certain attacks, stuff like that is what makes a good player a good player.

It really made things feel brand new. After that our crew of friends grew exponentially and we still play a lot. You'd be surprised how teaching your friends can change things.
 

DeityLink

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I myself am 20,

I don't wavedash nor do i ever care to learn to do it correctly. To me it's cheating, since it glitches the game. I'm not trying to start a fight with anyone...been in too many of those. But to me anything that glitches any game is cheating (if it helps you win).

As for advanced techniques...I'm sorry to say i don't know what many of them are, so i can't say if i use them or not.

I know that, that last statement makes me sound like a noob, but I'm far from it (just ask anyone who knows me...but I don't think I know anyone name on the boards yet lol). I just never went out of my way to learn all this random terminology of Smash Bros. before.

And on the subject of items, I love to play with them, but i usually turn off the healing items though.
 

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18 and I use wavedashing. I've played in tournaments and other stuff... blah blah blah. Other generic stuff. But I would like items on... especially smash ball.
That's basically me.

I love wavedashing...I think it looks sexy and adds to your options of mindgames you can throw at your opponent. Like for example, if you're running at your opponent, and for the past few times you've been grabbing him/her, he/she will probably expect you to grab again. That's where you can implement the wavedash to stop your run and slide backwards, tricking your opponent to catch him/her off guard.

I've been to 2 tournaments in my day, and over the past few months my smash life has been dying down, but I used to be an average player. I can do all the ATs, and my mindgames are on par. I can probably hold my own against a pro, but I don't think I could win against one consistently.
 

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I myself am 20,

I don't wavedash nor do i ever care to learn to do it correctly. To me it's cheating, since it glitches the game. I'm not trying to start a fight with anyone...been in too many of those. But to me anything that glitches any game is cheating (if it helps you win).

As for advanced techniques...I'm sorry to say i don't know what many of them are, so i can't say if i use them or not.

I know that, that last statement makes me sound like a noob, but I'm far from it (just ask anyone who knows me...but I don't think I know anyone name on the boards yet lol). I just never went out of my way to learn all this random terminology of Smash Bros. before.

And on the subject of items, I love to play with them, but i usually turn off the healing items though.
How do you know about WD but not any of the adv. techs? *confused* did you just read about WD'ing 5 minutes before posting this???
 

DeityLink

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No, no, I've know about wavedashing for a while. I learned about it at a tournament, plus its the one tech that people always say by name when it happens at my school. I'm sure I use some advance techs (maybe, i don't really know lol), I just don't know the terms for them. When I play some of the people at my school I can't even follow what there talking about anymore. Is there some sort of Smash Brothers dictionary? lol
 

Red Exodus

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Check the melee section, I highly doubt do you ATs and not know about them, don't worry I thought I did too. The only ones that you might do without knowing are dash dashing, crouch canceling, shield grab and power shielding. There are tons of advanced techniques, even some character specific ones. Be sure the check the melee character section for more info.
 

DeityLink

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well, than maybe i don't do any ATs lol. Thanks for the advice though. I would love to have some more moves in my arsenal.
 

The_Smash_Champ

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I am 16, yes young but i am a pure competitive smash player. I play with my friend and we both like going to tournies. Ive even met some of the best but ofcourse got owned. I like any good smash player use advanced techniques, the wavedash is just one of many but its just the one that stands out the most- not the most important one.

I hate seeing people talk about how they dont wavedash and still play this game, this game has been out for six years, and if you are still playing the same way you were back then i personally think you are wasting your life. Hell i even only like playing tourny stages, i will put corneria every once in a while but its usually the same ones. Competitve smash doesnt make the game more boring, it makes it actually funner. I hate people who say they play smash buit they suck at it, people find something and get good at it, its kinda how its suppose to work right?
 

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When I found this site it made me want to play melee again, before that I hated melee because with and without items was boring either way. Advanced techniques rekindled smash for me.
 

DeityLink

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lol, i still need to learn what they are. But i love the game for both sides. I love the competition, and hardcore no items, final destination. But I would drive myself crazy if thats all i did. So playing sudden death, with only bombs on very high is just as fun to me.
 

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I did that stuff to death, I basically went through every item on high on every stage with different characters vs different characters on different teams in different special modes.

I basically tried as many variations as I could bare and it didn't make the game last any longer. I stopped around 2005 and restarted in Dec 06.
 

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lol, i still need to learn what they are. But i love the game for both sides. I love the competition, and hardcore no items, final destination. But I would drive myself crazy if thats all i did. So playing sudden death, with only bombs on very high is just as fun to me.
The official everything thread:

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=97603

That answers all you questions. Go to the character specific forums for questions pertaining to specific characters.
 
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