Will the Brawl community ever move to a mod like Brawl+ as a whole.

[Jimmyneedles]

As the topic states, I was just curious what you guys think the chances are of a mod like Brawl+ becoming required in tournaments. Do enough people recognize these mods? I personally hope that more and more people start to use these mods and learn how much more balanced it is than normal Brawl. I love playing Brawl+, but I don't want to play it all the time if tournaments will always be using regular Brawl.

What do you guys think?

 

[HeroMystic]

No it won't.

Unless it's an official patch from Nintendo or if Brawl+ gets officially acknowledged world-wide by sponsors (which would be from Nintendo), then Brawl+ will always been seen as a modded game, and will be forced to co-exist with vBrawl.

 

[MajorMoses]

I don't think it will, but it is certainly in the realm of possibility. For Brawl+ to actually be accepted as the new standard, several things would have to happen first. First, the Brawl metagame must slowly grind to a halt as, either Metaknight dittos become commonplace or no new mechanics are discovered and incorporated into the game. From there (if it doesn't completely die out), Metaknight will probably be banned to save the game and expand on the current metagame. Then (if Metaknight's ban doesn't solve anything), the only option for keeping the game alive will be a modded version of the game that adds depth and balance; i.e. Brawl+, Balanced Brawl.

 

[superyoshi888]

B+ will never become the standard simply because of two things:

1) It isn't official

and

2) Mods automatically have a negative reputation.

 

[MagmarFire]

Probably not. In a way, vBrawl and Brawl+ are two different games, and as such, they have their own devoted fanbases who will hold tournaments for whichever version they please. I can see many tournaments becoming Brawl+-only or vBrawl-only, but either one of them becoming the go-to standard? That's like saying that Smash 64 and Melee standards aren't valid anymore simply because they've been succeeded by Brawl.

 

[BEES]

I don't think it will, but it is certainly in the realm of possibility. For Brawl+ to actually be accepted as the new standard, several things would have to happen first. First, the Brawl metagame must slowly grind to a halt as, either Metaknight dittos become commonplace or no new mechanics are discovered and incorporated into the game. From there (if it doesn't completely die out), Metaknight will probably be banned to save the game and expand on the current metagame. Then (if Metaknight's ban doesn't solve anything), the only option for keeping the game alive will be a modded version of the game that adds depth and balance; i.e. Brawl+, Balanced Brawl.

Metaknight dittos are very common and no new mechanics have been discovered in the past year other than a couple subtle character-character matchup specific things. Metaknight has been and is banned at some tournaments, though not the big ones.

Some people actually like Brawl. Enough people like Brawl to want to play it in tournaments across the globe. I've talked to some of them and they seriously like Brawl more than Melee, consider Brawl+ an abomination to the game, and find Metaknight dittos exhilarating. Because of them, Brawl will not die in the short term.

Brawl+ is common enough to be a major player these days. It's no longer relegated to side-events. There really are 3 games now. But despite the growing popularity of B+ and the resurgence of Melee in the past year, one glance at the regional zones suggests that there are more tournaments for Brawl than there are for Brawl+ and Melee combined. As someone that expected competitive Brawl to evaporate by now, that astounds me. I think it may actually survive quite a while, at least until the next Smash Bros release. (There will definitely be another. The popularity of the last two was overwhelming, Nintendo would have to capitalize on that for their next console).

To summarize: Brawl+ will not replace Brawl. It has become a different game for a different group of people, and we're fortunate that enough people like Smash Bros to support 3 games for now.

 

[goodoldganon]

BEES hit it on the head

 

[Shell]

You're talking about the community that, given the chance to play a balanced yet relatively un-modified version of the game (BBrawl) or even just play the normal game without tripping, has chosen to stick with what they have.

Yeah, don't get your hopes up.

 

[JCaesar]

B+ will never become the standard simply because of two things:

1) It isn't official

and

2) Mods automatically have a negative reputation.

Pretty much this. The vast majority of Brawl players who refuse to play Brawl+ do so simply because it wasn't released by Nintendo.

If Nintendo had released Brawl+ and some dudes hacked the game and made vBrawl, do you think we'd be having this discussion? No, no one would play that ****, ever, period.

 

[darksamus77]

JCaesar, that was beautiful couldn't have said it any better

 

[zxeon]

Pretty much this. The vast majority of Brawl players who refuse to play Brawl+ do so simply because it wasn't released by Nintendo.

If Nintendo had released Brawl+ and some dudes hacked the game and made vBrawl, do you think we'd be having this discussion? No, no one would play that ****, ever, period.

This.

10char

 

[wowoduend]

That will never happen TC. Though Brawl+ is accepted as a another game of Brawl.

 

[Teh Future]

except nintendo wouldn't release something as horrible as brawl+ lol why does this thread exist

 

[Shadic]

except nintendo wouldn't release something as horrible as brawl+ lol why does this thread exist

Brawl.

lol why do you exist

 

[Mecakoto]

except nintendo wouldn't release something as horrible as my grammar lol why does this thread exist

Fixed.

Oh, and this:

Yes. Yes they would.