Wii/Wii U

[Sephiroth27]

Either way, I’ve already seen what it looks like on the Tokyo Game Show. It’s like E3 for Japan. It was shown in Nintendo’s little spoiler preview. Deal with it.

 

[byt]

I think 30 is still strecthing it. 20, maybe. The 360 has 18 launch titles and most people are saying it's featured some better launch games than past consoles. Also, and please correct me if I'm wrong but Nintendo has had less finalized dev kits out for a shorter period of time than Microsoft with the 360. Coming up with even 20 games may be difficult. But it is supposedly similar to the Gamecube so that may not be a problem.

Aside from the actual hardware specs, the Revolution is really a much more powerful Gamecube. Iwata-san has made it pretty clear that developers can start working on software titles using Gamecube dev kits.

In all fairness though, what has been confirmed for the Revolution and what are people looking forward to? Mario, Metroid, Zelda and Super Smash Bros among others. Obviously, the Revolution leaves itself open for some new series but what system doesn't?

Good point. Another good point is that these franchises almost rival Disney characters in terms of saturation. Everyone knows who Mario is. Really, we have more games in the SMB series than we do Metroid so Nintendo could stand to increase the selection for that particular franchise. Besides, you can only do a Halo so many times. Really, my complaint isn't new IP as it is lack of real innovation and that's why I go after sports titles because EA doesn't try to do anything innovative (not that I know how you could).

I'm really not that knowledgeable on the 360 so I can't say what the general concensus is but early reports seem to be pretty positive. Wether opinions are positive or not there are reasons that the PS3 will (or may) be different.

First the PS and PS2 had a longer life than rival machines, I think it's safe to say the same will hold true for the PS3. A console that will have a life of 6 or more years is more appealing than one with a life of 5 or less.

While many people make fun of the fact that the PS3 has so many add-ons it really does give the system alot of potential. And, while Sony may not have the ginormous catalog of games Nintendo does it has it's fair share of titles to offer and it could do so in the same way the Revolution will. Dowloadable Final Fantasy VII anyone?

I've heard it both ways and it probably averages out to being mediocre in the end. From what I've come across for the PS3, so far, doesn't really indicate it will be any different than the 360 aside from the "claim" it will have the best graphics. You can still watch movies, look at pictures, etc. All of the same stuff that the Xbox 360 already does. I've heard you can possibly connect a PSP wirelessly, but who would want to spend almost $300 to do that? Sony is really touting it as a multimedia machine rather than a gaming device. Too bad my PC already does all of that multimedia stuff.

I've also read a good handful of warnings by some Japanese market analysis groups that indicate Sony is very likely to have some problems with the PS3. As expected, Sony blows it off as nonsense. I know it seems like I'm bashing, but its kind of hard not to come to these conclusions based upon the information gathered.

*Edit*
I just want people to make rational desicions with their money, that's all. If you want a PS3, that's your perogative.

 

[kaid]

Shouldn't this discussion go in the Console Debates topic?
EDIT: I'm reviving the New Console Debates Topic. Post there to continue this topic.

 

[KLSmash]

December 2, 2005 - Nintendo bigwigs including Shigeru Miyamoto spoke at Japan's Digital Interactive Entertainment Conference today and while no specifics on games or hardware were revealed, some intriguing Revolution gossip was spun all the same, according to the website kotaku.com.

The site reports that Miyamoto again talked about the possibilities of the Revolution controller, and referred to the peripheral's nunchuck-style analog add-on. Most interesting, though, was what Miyamoto didn't talk about. The Nintendo legend flat-out stated that there's more to be revealed about the Revolution controller.

"There's another secret [about the Revolution controller]," he stated. "But I'm not going to go into that here. That'll be for a later date."

The news is in line with Nintendo of Europe demi-god Jim Merrick's recent statements that not everything about the Revolution controller has been shown.

Readers can expect full disclosure on the peripheral, the console, and its games at the Electronics Entertainment Expo 2006, which kicks off in Los Angeles next May. - IGN

Incase anyone missed it, and doesn't know where to find it.

 

[Chill]

Aside from the actual hardware specs, the Revolution is really a much more powerful Gamecube. Iwata-san has made it pretty clear that developers can start working on software titles using Gamecube dev kits.

That's why I had that last sentence.

Good point. Another good point is that these franchises almost rival Disney characters in terms of saturation. Everyone knows who Mario is. Really, we have more games in the SMB series than we do Metroid so Nintendo could stand to increase the selection for that particular franchise. Besides, you can only do a Halo so many times. Really, my complaint isn't new IP as it is lack of real innovation and that's why I go after sports titles because EA doesn't try to do anything innovative (not that I know how you could).

Why is Halo limited but Metroid isn't? Sure, Metroid has less games than Mario but that doesn't mean it can't or doesn't have to many. Even though Metroid took a small break look how many recent games it has had. Metroid Prime, Metroid fusion, Metroid pinball and Prime 3 and Prime Hunters are on the way.

You can still watch movies, look at pictures, etc. All of the same stuff that the Xbox 360 already does. I've heard you can possibly connect a PSP wirelessly, but who would want to spend almost $300 to do that? Sony is really touting it as a multimedia machine rather than a gaming device. Too bad my PC already does all of that multimedia stuff.

I'm kinda iffy on the pricing issue. Nothing stays "high" forever. Right now the PS2 is only $50 more than a Gamecube. You say your PC can do everything that the PS3 can, compare the price of a good PC to the rumored $500 price of the PS3.

On the issue of multimedia, you know those phones that play music and take pictures? Or those mp3 players that can also tune into the radio, record, copy etc? Do you know why they keep making them? People like those becuase they are convenient. Why carry a phone, an ipod and camera with you can have it all in one? The same applies to the PS3. You can have a DVD player, CD player, gaming device etc. in your living room or you can have a single machine that handles it all. And on the plus side its cheaper for consumers when devices are put together rather than sold seperately.

I've also read a good handful of warnings by some Japanese market analysis groups that indicate Sony is very likely to have some problems with the PS3. As expected, Sony blows it off as nonsense. I know it seems like I'm bashing, but its kind of hard not to come to these conclusions based upon the information gathered.

What kind of problems? Like the 360, reports are mixed so I'll wait before seriously considering both sides. As an example, Gamer4fire posted an article a few pages back on the benefits of the Cell while other people have said the Cell is a deathtrap.

I just want people to make rational desicions with their money, that's all. If you want a PS3, that's your perogative.

Same here, but of course opions are going to differ on what is rational and what is not. I think people should take the time to learn about the systems and find what works best for them. Don't just look at the PS3 (or the 360) and say "wow that's crap". When we first saw the Rev controller the majority if us probably said "what !?", but when we learned about it's possibilities our opions likely changed. That's what I see when I look at the PS3 but more on that an a later post and in a different topic.

Kaid, we're not debating, we're discussing. :D

 

[Mic_128]

Why carry a phone, an ipod and camera with you can have it all in one? The same applies to the PS3. You can have a DVD player, CD player, gaming device etc. in your living room or you can have a single machine that handles it all. And on the plus side its cheaper for consumers when devices are put together rather than sold seperately.

While true, I already have a DVD player, CD player, picture viewer...the debate is more on the fact that you have to pay MORE for things you already HAVE. I don't need another DVD player, CD player, ect, I just want a box that plays good games.

 

[Misto-Roboto]

While true, I already have a DVD player, CD player, picture viewer...the debate is more on the fact that you have to pay MORE for things you already HAVE. I don't need another DVD player, CD player, ect, I just want a box that plays good games.

Not to mention if one thing on there goes wrong you've lost your iPod, camera, phone, etc. I think it's best for them to be seperate.

 

[zerotheultimate]

yikes.. i hope the GC controllers can be used to play the games for it, like the new SSB game, because that remote controller looks WAY too uncomfortable to me and i'd simply never get used to it. >_<

 

[kaid]

1) All reports say the remote is more comfortable than it looks.
2) there will be a Wavebird-like shell for it, allowing traditional games to be played.

 

[byt]

That's why I had that last sentence.

I was just confirming it for you since the way you worded it made you seem uncertain

Why is Halo limited but Metroid isn't? Sure, Metroid has less games than Mario but that doesn't mean it can't or doesn't have to many. Even though Metroid took a small break look how many recent games it has had. Metroid Prime, Metroid fusion, Metroid pinball and Prime 3 and Prime Hunters are on the way.

Sort of a jab, but it does apply to a lot of franchise games (including Metroid). Admittedly, we have a ton of Mario games with nothing that really changes from each title; they are all platformers. Again, my complaint isn't franchises themselves, rather its the lack of innovation. The comment about Halo was more about the hype surrounding it. That won't last forever unless something new is added. Otherwise its just another FPS. Much of what can be done in Halo can be done in UT2k4 (such as riding vechicles and so forth). There isn't too much more you can add to create a new experience other than a really good story. That's also why I'm critical of EA and the plethora of sports titles in their name...I don't think its worth the $50 to buy an annually updated game.

As for Metriodt, wasn't that Nintendo took a break with it, it was more that Gunpei Yokoi was killed in a car accident which stalled the series on the SNES.

I'm kinda iffy on the pricing issue. Nothing stays "high" forever. Right now the PS2 is only $50 more than a Gamecube. You say your PC can do everything that the PS3 can, compare the price of a good PC to the rumored $500 price of the PS3.

Its not so much a rumor on the price as it is true. The cost to manufacture a PS3 right now is ~$495 per unit. For $500 I can probably make a decent PC that could withstand heavy games like HL2 and Doom 3. If Sony sells the PS3 under that they are taking a huge hit per unit. Their only hope of breaking even is to earn enough through software and peripherals.

On the issue of multimedia, you know those phones that play music and take pictures? Or those mp3 players that can also tune into the radio, record, copy etc? Do you know why they keep making them? People like those becuase they are convenient. Why carry a phone, an ipod and camera with you can have it all in one? The same applies to the PS3. You can have a DVD player, CD player, gaming device etc. in your living room or you can have a single machine that handles it all. And on the plus side its cheaper for consumers when devices are put together rather than sold seperately.

I think Mic said it best. Besdies, you can't carry a PS3 in your pocket like an iPod or a digital camera, etc. A lot of nice TVs feature support for various smart media cards (Compact Flash, SD, Memory Stick, etc.) for viewing pictures or movies on your TV without the need for extra equipment.

What kind of problems? Like the 360, reports are mixed so I'll wait before seriously considering both sides. As an example, Gamer4fire posted an article a few pages back on the benefits of the Cell while other people have said the Cell is a deathtrap.

Penny Arcade is a good source, for one. Tycho doesn't seem too impressed with most of the initial offerings. While I would like to have one myself if only for PDZ in particular, Tycho expressed a big let down. Then again, he was comparing it to F.E.A.R. which I've not played yet....so I'm sure I'd like it just the same. Plus, EA's sports titles don't look any better than their other platform offerings on standard TVs; you'll only notice a significat visual difference on an HDTV. Yeah its still a little early, but with all the hype that's been thrown around, you'd expect Microsoft to work a little harder to ensure very good ratings/approval from a lot of the big gaming news sources. Perhaps my standards/expectations are a little too high?

Same here, but of course opions are going to differ on what is rational and what is not. I think people should take the time to learn about the systems and find what works best for them. Don't just look at the PS3 (or the 360) and say "wow that's crap". When we first saw the Rev controller the majority if us probably said "what !?", but when we learned about it's possibilities our opions likely changed. That's what I see when I look at the PS3 but more on that an a later post and in a different topic.

I'm not saying they are crap because I'm sure there will be gems on each. I'm really displaced by Sony's obnoxious attitude, as of late. I had the same kind of feelings towards Microsoft back when they launched the Xbox (especially toward the xbox acolytes). When the PS2 came out I didn't care since I'm pretty much a Nintendo fan...have been since I first touched an NES all those years ago.

Kaid, we're not debating, we're discussing. :D

You sound a lot like my parents...you're not one of them in disguise are you?

I'm excited about the Revolution and I want that controller now. Nintendo has been fairly agressive lately and not in just their marketing, but in their philosophy as well. A lot of news I've read about Iwata-san or Miyamoto-san speaking at various developer confrences or gaming trade shows has really touched me. Neither Mircosoft nor Sony show this kind of dedication to gaming. And I'm not the only one that's impressed. Lots of the big name developers are impressed as well. Really, if your name isn't Shigeru Miyamoto, Will Wright, Peter Molynoux, etc., your creative idea for a game gets instantly crushed. Nintendo's goal is to provoke creativity in game design/development because that's really the best way to stumble upon successful new franchises.

 

[Chill]

I was just confirming it for you since the way you worded it made you seem uncertain

When I first read that statement about the gamecube and Rev being similar I took it as that games were already being developed on the gamecube and would only need a slight update for the Rev. I recently went back and reread that statement and he says "developers won't have a problem when they recieve the dev kits." Being familar with the technology beforehand would take a few months off of development time. But... recent news about SSBR, Nintendos biggest game and reported "launch" title, shows that it is in the early stages of devlopment. If Nintendo's own (and biggest) games are just getting started why would others be further ahead? Did they give dev kits to everyone before themselves?

The comment about Halo was more about the hype surrounding it. That won't last forever unless something new is added. Otherwise its just another FPS. Much of what can be done in Halo can be done in UT2k4 (such as riding vechicles and so forth).There isn't too much more you can add to create a new experience other than a really good story.

So what does Mario add that creates a new experience? A really good story?

Its not so much a rumor on the price as it is true. The cost to manufacture a PS3 right now is ~$495 per unit. For $500 I can probably make a decent PC that could withstand heavy games like HL2 and Doom 3.

In the begining Sony doesn't sell it's consoles at the price it cost to manufacture so that automatically makes it cheaper than the PC. Secondly, it is unlikely you are going to find a PC capable of playing games for $500. It will cost you $500 just to update it to play future games.

I think Mic said it best. Besdies, you can't carry a PS3 in your pocket like an iPod or a digital camera, etc. A lot of nice TVs feature support for various smart media cards (Compact Flash, SD, Memory Stick, etc.) for viewing pictures or movies on your TV without the need for extra equipment.

I wasn't talking about carrying a PS3 in your pocket. I was explaining why it makes sense to put things in one place. When you can show me a TV that is capable of what the PS3 is and cost $500 or less I'll buy it.

With the exception of a few games, launch titles have never terribly impressed anybody. Opions are of course opions, but check the ratings on the 360 launch games they are all pretty high. A few guys might say "this game stinks" but most people are saying the opposite. One guy on a website might not be think a certain game "stinks" but he is outnumberd by all the other people who recognize that while it' no system seller it is still a great game.

You sound a lot like my parents...you're not one of them in disguise are you?

Yes, and its way past your bedtime.

I have more thoughts on the controller and Nintendo but I'll keep those in the debate hall so I don't clutter up this topic to much.

 

[blaksheap82]

While true, I already have a DVD player, CD player, picture viewer...the debate is more on the fact that you have to pay MORE for things you already HAVE. I don't need another DVD player, CD player, ect, I just want a box that plays good games.

That's one big reason why I like Nintendo, they're only concerned with games, not taking over your entire living room; especially when their system will cost at least $150 less (and can still play DVD's with a peripheral, to boot).

Has there been any word on voice chat options? I heard from a friend that you can disable voice chat just by muting your TV, and a liitle message appears to tell you that voice chat has been disabled. The only problem is I'm wary of talking to a complete stranger I can't even see, but still want to hear the game. I think my friend said it was on ign.com, but I can't log on to it, so I can't check it out myself.

 

[byt]

When I first read that statement about the gamecube and Rev being similar I took it as that games were already being developed on the gamecube and would only need a slight update for the Rev. I recently went back and reread that statement and he says "developers won't have a problem when they recieve the dev kits." Being familar with the technology beforehand would take a few months off of development time. But... recent news about SSBR, Nintendos biggest game and reported "launch" title, shows that it is in the early stages of devlopment. If Nintendo's own (and biggest) games are just getting started why would others be further ahead? Did they give dev kits to everyone before themselves?

What I read said that developers could use GC dev kits to start working on titles for the Revolution. ::shrugs::

So what does Mario add that creates a new experience? A really good story?

My point was that Mario is stale? Not that I don't like Mario, but its just a platformer anymore.

In the begining Sony doesn't sell it's consoles at the price it cost to manufacture so that automatically makes it cheaper than the PC. Secondly, it is unlikely you are going to find a PC capable of playing games for $500. It will cost you $500 just to update it to play future games.

I already know they plan on selling it at a loss. That's usually how things go at the start. They hope to draw in enough revenue through software and peripheral sales.

As for an inexpensive yet powerful PC...I have in front of me a quick spreadsheet I put together for someone at work that's for a PC I will build them. Granted its not a gaming powerhouse, but for ~$400 its a lot more value than what you can buy off of the shelf at Best Buy or Circuit City which would probably charge almost $900 or more. If you know where to look for deals on parts you can put together a very powerful computer which may be higher in value than what you initially paid for.

I wasn't talking about carrying a PS3 in your pocket. I was explaining why it makes sense to put things in one place. When you can show me a TV that is capable of what the PS3 is and cost $500 or less I'll buy it.

Putting all of that kinda of stuff together seems counterintuitive to me. My point about the TV was about the fact that the viewing pictures and the like is already integrated into a lot of newer TVs. I have a 52" HDTV in my living room that has slots for Compact Flash, SD, Memory Stick, and some other kind of smart media that I don't remember off-hand.

With the exception of a few games, launch titles have never terribly impressed anybody. Opions are of course opions, but check the ratings on the 360 launch games they are all pretty high. A few guys might say "this game stinks" but most people are saying the opposite. One guy on a website might not be think a certain game "stinks" but he is outnumberd by all the other people who recognize that while it' no system seller it is still a great game.

This is probably why I'll wait a while...till a price drop comes along. There are at least 3 games I want to play.

Yes, and its way past your bedtime.

I have more thoughts on the controller and Nintendo but I'll keep those in the debate hall so I don't clutter up this topic to much.

lol, people seem incapable of grasping that I'm not a little kid. I know I look younger than 24, but come on.

 

[Chill]

I already know they plan on selling it at a loss. That's usually how things go at the start. They hope to draw in enough revenue through software and peripheral sales.

If you know that then why did you say the price would be $500?

lol, people seem incapable of grasping that I'm not a little kid. I know I look younger than 24, but come on.

I just said that because you said I sounded like your parents, I have no idea what you look like.

byt a while ago you used the term IP you're going to have to educate me as to what that term means.

 

[byt]

If you know that then why did you say the price would be $500?

I based that off the manufacturing cost. But also keep in mind that if you buy a game or two plus extra controllers along with whatever else they offer you'll probably spend $500 or more in the end.

I just said that because you said I sounded like your parents, I have no idea what you look like.

Its not a big deal, really. Just a moment of nostalgia. My parents would start to "argue" over something and either my brother, myself, or both of us would tell them they were arguing and their response was that they weren't.

byt a while ago you used the term IP you're going to have to educate me as to what that term means.

IP is the abbreviated form of Intellectual Property. Pretty much a catch-all for anything a person creates. You can at least go to bed tonight knowing you've learned something new today.

 

[G-Ron]

Personally i have to agree with both sides, you want an all in one system but if that one system breaks than you are screwed to the 10th degree. That being said, i have to say that it usually comes to the games so i think launch titles and exclusive titles are what i hold in higher esteeem than the system. Not that the system is not important but we won't know the full potential of each system until a year or so when they've been out for a while. but of course we all know that i and you will get a rev. first, but as to what to get second i have no clue. MGS4>Halo3 but PS3 is so much dinero!!!



and the igns' take on the rev. shell

 

[blaksheap82]

Yes, I will get a Rev first, and also only. I'm not the kind who can spend that kind of money on two game systems. I really don't feel like I need two, anyway.

 

[G-Ron]

Yes, I will get a Rev first, and also only. I'm not the kind who can spend that kind of money on two game systems. I really don't feel like I need two, anyway.

True...infact i first got a ps2 and unbelievibly my cousin had a ps2 also and a gamecube and he gave me his gamecube because he didnt like the system!!! Thats the only reason i have ps2 and GC. But since ill be in college next year im sure someone will have a ps3 so REV only it is!!!

 

[ChRed2AKrisp]

G-Ron, don't post anything that old, we've all known about the mock-up since it came out ine September.

About the media issue, i'm sure its nice to have all this stuff in one system. If you travel, or decide to put it in your room instead of downstairs, its awesome. But like mic said, i don't want to pay extra for that. There's only one TV in my house, and it already has a DVD player underneath it. I have a boombox in my room, as well as a computer.

I was explaining why it makes sense to put things in one place. When you can show me a TV that is capable of what the PS3 is and cost $500 or less I'll buy it.

Show me a gaming system that can do what a TV can, namely, watch TV. Sure you can spend an extra $100 for and attachable LCD and turn it into an independent system/ portable DVD player(if you have some way to adapt the power for your car), but does the PS3 have cable? I think not

In terms of pricing, I'd like you to think about what range you are arguing about.
If the manufacaturing cost for the PS3 is $500, even id you shave off $150, you are still at around $350, and it might be more like $400. If the revo is going at about $250, you can fit in maybe an extra controller with numchucku attachement and a couple games beofre you hit that price. I think i'd rather save $150 ifits all the same. I mean Look at the PSP. $250 price tag, plus another $50 if you actually want enough memory to store songs and video. That's twice what the DS cost at starting price. now if you buy a bundle or a used DS, you can get the DS and 5-6 games(depending on the $30-$35 price range) for the same cost to get the PSP and no games, albeit you have video and song capacity. I may be wrong and the PSP is $50 cheaper, the DS is still up on it by about 4 games.

So screw dropping the price $100 on the PS3, its nice for the people who are buying it anyways, but for the rest of us...well I plan to REVOLUTIONIZE my room come fall 2006.

 

[kaid]

...some shady guy who's been trying to sell me modded systems and controllers said he got ahold of:
the rev controller, the nunchaku, 3 different shells, and a 50 dollar Nintendo gift certificate.

He says he'll include the gift certificate if I buy it, 'cause he doesn't like nintendo.

I should be getting this supposed package from him wensday. If it pans out, I'll try to get images and post them. (And don't worry, I pay AFTER delivery)

 

[Omnigamer]

He's trying to cheat you. But since you've already taken it that far, you may as well get a good laugh at what he tries to pass off.

 

[G-Ron]

G-Ron, don't post anything that old, we've all known about the mock-up since it came out ine September.

before posting i read back a couple of pages and i saw that people were talking about the shell as if it were some imaginary make-believe thing so i put up the link for those who didnt see it or just wanted to take a looksee

i agree with you statement on the consoles but there are exceptions to that because for the psp vs Ds thing......"cheap thing no good and good thing no cheap" for lack of better words

 

[Chill]

In terms of pricing, I'd like you to think about what range you are arguing about. If the manufacaturing cost for the PS3 is $500, even id you shave off $150, you are still at around $350, and it might be more like $400. If the revo is going at about $250, you can fit in maybe an extra controller with numchucku attachement and a couple games beofre you hit that price. I think i'd rather save $150 ifits all the same.

Well I guess we just have a different idea about whats "worth it". I'd gladly spend more money for something that I will use, then spend slightly less money on something I won't. When I bought my gamecube sure it was cheaper than the PS2 and it was a lot of fun... if you don't mind the whole getting a good game every 4 months and hoping it will be one that interest you thing. With the PS2 I always have something to choose from. Until Nintendo shows that the same thing won't be happening again I don't have a problem spending that extra $150.

So screw dropping the price $100 on the PS3, its nice for the people who are buying it anyways, but for the rest of us...well I plan to REVOLUTIONIZE my room come fall 2006.

Yeah, screw making things cheaper. Who's dumb idea was that anyway?

Revolutionize away, my friend.

 

[vidjogamer]

Actually, he has a point.

We should all revolutionize.

 

[KiraYamato]

Apparantly we are going to have to wait a while for revolution according to an article over at ign.

"Nintendo will very likely reveal the official Revolution launch date to the public at the Electronics Entertainment Expo 2006 next May in Los Angeles, but developers have already been given a decidedly narrowed time frame. According to studios we spoke with under the condition of anonymity, Nintendo has told them that Revolution will debut in America "during the week of Thanksgiving 2006."

This isn't exactly a shocker. We would've pegged the machine to launch on November 18, 2006 -- the same as GameCube five years before it. But even so, it's the most concrete evidence yet of a November debut and it effectively quashes rumors of an early 2006 debut."

The link for this article is http://revolution.ign.com/articles/673/673596p1.html and on a side note, ign officially opened a revolution channel to their website.

 

[Giygas]

Well I guess we just have a different idea about whats "worth it". I'd gladly spend more money for something that I will use, then spend slightly less money on something I won't. When I bought my gamecube sure it was cheaper than the PS2 and it was a lot of fun... if you don't mind the whole getting a good game every 4 months and hoping it will be one that interest you thing. With the PS2 I always have something to choose from.

I have close to 40 games on my GameCube. I can't think of half that number of games that I would want for my PS2.

 

[blaksheap82]

Thanks Kira, for posting that link, I was finally able to get on IGN. But November?! I may as well buy a couple more Cube games instead of holding off and saving for the Rev.

 

[G-Ron]

I have close to 40 games on my GameCube. I can't think of half that number of games that I would want for my PS2.

yea....but how many of those 40 gamecube titles are actually good? most of the games are from average to bad with the exception of smash and resident evil(all i can think of now) everything else is well....you get the idea. Ps2 however has plenty of games, as well as it can play ps1 games so consolewise ps2 over gamecube.

 

[Deo_Smash]

Just because other people say the games not good, does not mean someone would not enjoy it.
Custom Robo is a game I find as a good quality game, even though it's been givin an average score.
There are several GREAT games for the Cube. High quality art work and gameplay. For examples: Baiton Katos, Wind Waker, Wave Racer: Blue Storm, F-Zero GX,Soul Calibur 2, Metriod Prime, Metriod Prime 2, Prince of Persia., etc. Even though game reviewers are saying Mario Party is getting old, why is that when ever I play with friends , we have a blast. My point is, People have differnt opinions on what makes a game great. Sometimes its annomuos (meaning everyone voted the same way), and sometimes its not. If you can't find more than 10 or 15 great Cube games, then your pretty closed minded.
And what you say about the Cube games, I can say the same for the Ps2. But I won't, because I know the Ps2 has great games. XBox has great games. But all systems will get alot of mediocre games. But someone just might find that mediocre game worth getting.

 

[Sephiroth27]

Very well said. Don't forget Super Smash Brothers Melee, Geist, Mario Kart: Double Dash, Bloody Roar: Primal Fury, and the Timesplitters series.

 

[falcoX]

i dont know if anyones seen this, but on ign they have a potential list of backlog games for the revolution. For anyone who hates rumors, please dont kill me, im just stating this for you guys to ponder over.

The article:
http://revolution.ign.com/articles/670/670537p1.html

 

[Cashed]

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/673/673578p1.html

New tech details.

 

[G-Ron]

ok ok i'll agree with your point... some people do find great joy and some people dont in an average game. The point i was trying to make is that the gamecube itself has more average games than the other systems. SOME people like the average games and there is nothing wrong with that. I never said i couldnt find good games for the gamecube the games i referenced were just the ones that popped into my head.

just wanted to clear that up before i was thought of a simple-minded ****** who knows nothing of anything

 

[Osco316]

How can you say the Gamecube has more average games than the others? The PS2 has a lot more games than the Gamecube and most of them are garbage. But if you wish to continue debating about the games, go to the Console Debate thread in the Official Game Thread List. Don't talk about GCN, Xbox, and PS2 in the "New" Console Debates, find the other one.

 

[Royal Flush]

How can you say the Gamecube has more average games than the others? The PS2 has a lot more games than the Gamecube and most of them are garbage. But if you wish to continue debating about the games, go to the Console Debate thread in the Official Game Thread List. Don't talk about GCN, Xbox, and PS2 in the "New" Console Debates, find the other one.

Well, gamecube has a lot of games that are just average. Every Mario game was weak and thats a majority of gamecubes games. As far as games that were actually hits...gamecube was pretty much a one hit wonder- SSBM

 

[Chill]

I have close to 40 games on my GameCube. I can't think of half that number of games that I would want for my PS2.

What games do you like? I'm sure I could find atleast, atleast 15 good games in each genre. Unless you only like one genre 40 shouldn't be hard. I'm also wondering how many of those 40 games are exculsive titles.

 

[Osco316]

Well, gamecube has a lot of games that are just average. Every Mario game was weak and thats a majority of gamecubes games. As far as games that were actually hits...gamecube was pretty much a one hit wonder- SSBM

There are roughly 500 Gamecube games (Source: Nintendo.com). Are you saying that the Mario franchise makes up 251+ of those games? I did not say that the Gamecube didn't have average games. I just said it does not have more average games than the other systems.

You also need to expand your GCN-mind. There are more games than just Super Smash Bros. (blasphemy on this forum!). Go play Mario Kart (with some friends), Wind Waker, or Super Monkey Ball 1 or 2 (a GREAT party game if you get over the fact that monkeys are rolling around in balls).

All right, if you want to debate this generation of systems (Xbox, GCN, PS2) direct your discussion here. To debate the next generation of systems (360, PS3, and Rev) go here.

Use this topic to discuss the Nintendo Revolution.

 

[Deo_Smash]

I'll speak on behalf of the recent messages and appoligize for our argument, that will be taken else where.

Back to the Revo.

I'm looking toward the add-ons that will come out for the controller. I've seen the nunchuck. But i'm also seen the gun, steering wheel, steering wheel w/pedals, and (my personal favriot) the fishing reel. Oh the possiblities are endless. The fishing reel could be used for more than just fishing. It could be used for say...a charge beam idea. Not intionally towards metriod, but more as a gun that can be charged up by spinning the reel. Or a gatling gun effect. Or a catapult. It's just crazy. Insanity! Oh the possiblities alone are going make heads exploded!

-Deo

 

[RaptorHawk]

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/673/673578p1.html

New tech details.

Quote from the article.

"Software houses we spoke with also waxed on the immediate advantage to Nintendo's approach with Revolution, which is, of course, system price. Every developer was in agreement that Revolution should launch with a price tag of $149 or lower. Some speculated that based on the tech, a $99 price point would not be out of the question."

Holy crap it may be cheaper than expected! A $99 launch would be ****ing awesome! If not a $150 is still awesome.

 

[kaid]

Where did it say that? I can't find it!

$99 console? that's less than my DS!