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I don't understand why a game has to be competitive for everyone to like it. We have Melee and PM. Those games aren't going anywhere. We all need to give Smash 4 the chance it deserves. If the game isn't competitive then go back to Melee/The PM we already have and take Smash as what its meant to be. A party game.
I don't have, but i don't want another Project M, just because some people can't be satisfied with a game that isn't even finished yet.
This is confirmed false. He had a team in brawl, and another one in smash 4. He went solo on melee however.
I LOVE Project M, but because it has separated itself further and further from being a Melee clone. What I hate: People thinking that Smash4 will need to be 'fixed'.
I would certainly consider Smash4 some kind of holy deity, it's the 4th game on the Smash Brothers series. Also, I don't think you're interpreting Sakurai's words the right way, he was trying to say that a game where every character plays pretty much the same with a few differences would be boring. PM has balance problems too, because it's impossible to achieve perfect balance, and I don't see why Sakurai's philosophy isn't working out, most characters on the demo seemed pretty even with each other, even Link and Samus are reported to be much better than all past Smash games, Mario's good now, the only character who seemed terribly underpowered on the demo was Zelda, and I'm pretty sure that word has already gotten to Sakurai.
Brawl was balanced by a team of 4 people, this game is balanced by a team of 12. It doesn't really matter though because of the way they're doing it, it's just flawed.
I still wouldn't consider it some sort of sacred object, it's still just a game, especially Smash is almost made to be messed with. And no, he didn't say anything about playstyles in the blog, it was all about balancing characters to match up against each other and how they're gathering their data for it. There were also quite some unnecessary nerfs, like Fox and Marth, but of course they're far from done with the balancing.
The fact that you're even thinking that a 20XX/MK's possible on this scenario under these conditions? Shrug off the negativity, man, this Smash game's the first one to have a direct focus on balance between characters, and they're collecting data from FFA AND 1vs1, so you don't have to be all gloom and doom, especially considering that Nintendo's pushing competitive Smash4 big time, with sponsoring EVO and stuff, I'm sure that if Sakurai's too stubborn to do anything, the higher ups will interfere.
You can just press the grab button (ie, Z on GC controller) to grab items in midair, or you can wavedash into them. I don't think it's that hard.
Why not let people grab items with the item-grabbing button? (A)
You are able to do less each installment P:M gives you freedom how to play sakurai doesn't he just has a subtractive game design style.
about being open minded i could say the same to people who keep asking for changes to smash 4 without learning the game fully and seeing how the meta develops before asking for said changes
I think the thing is is that maybe the PM developers thought that it would make it a bit too easy to counter characters with item moves like Turnips and bananas if a character could just like, dash attack and grab it, or do an aerial and grab it, while ALSO attacking. In addition, it could be a bit disruptive even in like, casual matches. Maybe I want to go attack someone, but I end up grabbing an item I didn't want while attacking. Now instead of maybe following up, I'm thinking about getting rid of the item. It's like, if I wanted to grab the item, I'd just stand next to it and press A, or jump past it and press the grab button. Jumping and pressing grab makes grabbing items easy, and you also don't end up accidentally grabbing things with it, cause you can clearly choose to press it or not.
That is a fair point. I think a main concern people have is not that it "won't play like Melee", but rather, movement options. I agree in that regard. I don't care much about Melee techniques if I can cancel my dashing with a crouch, run and jump while keeping my momentum, not have too much lag after aerials, etc. I want movement to feel non-restrictive. I want to feel free, and I want it to feel good playing the game. That is an area of focus that I think people would maybe want to mod if dissatisfied. You can of course adapt to it, and hopefully there are areas in the game that make up for the potential movement restrictions, but what I'm saying is that is the movement feels restricted, then there's not much you can do to it besides adapt, and hopefully, the game will make up for it in other areas. I don't want the game to heavily reward defensive play again like Brawl because I find that that is maybe fun to play but not very fun to watch at the very least.
Where do you see PM/Melee/Brawl hate if I may ask? I only saw people complaining about another PM and that they are fine with the one existing. No one, except you, said something about Brawl/Melee/PM hate...Thank you for that.Geez, who knew the thread was going to turn into another of the Melee/Brawl/Project M hate threads?
No, seriously if this topics treads too many times in that direction, it will get locked.
There is only one solution:Geez, who knew the thread was going to turn into another of the Melee/Brawl/Project M hate threads?
No, seriously if this topics treads too many times in that direction, it will get locked.
But what about the people who like the defensive style of play, why should they not get to play the way they like to?
Even though they have to buy the base copy? Even most of the top competitive players like Mango played Brawl when it came out (but not competively). Simple fact is the game wasn't made for this audience, so it was changed. It's not like they're completely upending the game to make it enjoyable period, or enjoyable for anything else for that matter. What does Little Timmy the Button Mashing Item Player care? Super Smash Bros. is intrinsically a game about customization and Project M carries the spirit of that better than the base copy does itself. I'd be proud people care about my series enough to work backwards through the crazy ass Wii hardware and OS in order to make fundamental changes to the game.
Those poor, poor people! [/melodrama] They can make their own mod if they really care, or, and here's a novel idea - they can just keep playing the base copy. :]
Many people won't support Sakurai, Nintendo, and the rest of the devs if piracy comes to Wii U. We see it with PC perpetually and with every console this happens to. I don't want it, and I don't believe everyone who played Project M bought Brawl.
But you already have Project M. All any modders would be doing would be to do all over again the things they already did to Brawl, with only a few minor changes. Since this 'Project M 2.0' would be the same the all over again (IE Melee with different characters) it makes me wonder why people wouldn't just stick to the original.
or people could learn how the new game plays before calling for mods.
That's too bad. That's the risk anyone knowingly takes these days when printing digital media. The problem isn't as severe as you think. I don't personally know anyone that plays/played Brawl that hasn't owned one or multiple copies of it.
Bladeviper
No one is making or even asking you to play the mod to begin with. :] Try again next time, bud.
