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Why so much lazer whip

misterbee180

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To start off, I've been playing samus since the start of the game.

Now that that's out of the way, what is it with peoples infatuation with using the lazer whip so much. I understand that it is a good move to keep people at bay but there are definite oppertunities to use a move like the f air which is much better and leads into much bigger combos and yet people seem content on fighting from a far and lazer whip spamming. One battle in particular is the hugs vs hylian or what ever that dude's name is in the vid section. In almost every match there were about a million lazer whips that were shot out, making the matches long and not worth the time to view. Do people know something I don't know or are people just trying to win a game with a move that will never lead to a kill unless the opponant is just totally noob?
 

Pi

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Those video's are old :laugh:


Hylian had said that he was mostly testing the Laser whip (AKA Zair) and finding out it's properties. Now that he's done that he's spent more time into implementing it into his gameplay in a more reasonable fashion.


I'd tell you to watch some of the newer video's but that video thread hasn't been updated with their newer videos I believe.


You're pretty on base, it is a good move but it shouldn't be your saving grace. I also wouldn't count it out for killing potential, it's not going to be knocking people out of the ring any time soon but it's good for gimping recoveries.
 

Serris

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I also wouldn't count it out for killing potential, it's not going to be knocking people out of the ring any time soon but it's good for gimping recoveries.
FACT:

Samus's Z-Air can kill at percentages of 796 and up!
 

Phantomwake

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It is used so much because when you land there is pretty much no lag so it is like a free 3% on an opponent with great range already

oh and knihT

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ADHD

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I dunno, it's just fun to sit back, relax, and spam the crap out of your enemy with a zair.
 

GotACoolName

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It's weird, but I very rarely use zair. I just find regular and Super (yes, and Super, now that I've got the timing down for missile canceling where Supers come out low enough to actually hit some not-super-tall characters) Missiles to be so much more useful for ranged play. I find myself using the grapple more for dash grabbing than zairing.
 

Pi

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I also don't use zair very often. Although I think I should, it's a great move. I use neutral b in the air more than zair. I really ought to implement zair into my gameplay better ._.
 

navillus

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Just curious about this missile canceling. I can't seem to get the animation off before landing. any tips?

o and the zair is awesome. spamming any move incessantly is gay and n00bish but the well placed use of a zair is a great move. plus its hella fun
 

The_Woebegone_Jackal

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to navillus:

during a shorthop if you initiate your S.Missle at the same time your character starts to decend it should come out at or near the same level as a grounded S.Missle. Play around with it.
 

Heroic

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With the Zair, Samus is the ultimate camping machine. At long range, she can use her missiles. At mid range, she has her Zair, while in close range she can use her fair, wich has good priority and can lead to combos. A good approach move.

You must use everyone of her weapons to achieve victory.
 

I feel asleep

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great range, very very safe, and easy to spam.

I love the move as another option in Samus' unique arsenal, however, i feel, just like every other move in the game. it must be used in moderation.
 

Grunge

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Who doesnt Love the Zair Spam xD
 
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