Why Olimar will be top tier!

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Not a bad video, nice to see buddy revert back to his brawl days of being potential top 3
Could you perhaps give me some tips on playing Olimar in ultimate? I wanna start maining the guy like I did for a while in smash 4 but I never quite found that I was very good at him..
 

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Uhh what exactly are you looking for with him? I find the best way to improve is to just play a lot with him so he becomes more 2nd nature to control.
 

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I believe I am trying to find the best way to optimize side b and use the latched pikmin to my advantage

As well at the best times to go in and use grabs as opposed to staying back and turtling
 

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Well between all those points that encompasses most of Olimar lol. Best pieces for advice are obviously playing him more, watching videos of other Olimar players/guide videos and just trying to discuss MUs after you play them to get a better idea. There's not really a one size fits all model for him so it varies on matchup a lot. If you'd like I could DM you the Olimar discord which would make it a bit easier to chat with others about certain MUs and help.
 

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If you'd like I could DM you the Olimar discord which would make it a bit easier to chat with others about certain MUs and help.
Yes, please I'd like this
 

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I am going to watch the video, i am interested in playing seriously as Olimar, personally i think that is mostly a Tilt and Smash character. I like him a lot, however i know i can still improve on him
 

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The game is out now and ive been using olimar, I dont believe he will be top tier. What annoys me about playing olimar is that his moves gets canceled out by a lot of other characters move-sets which annoys me. I feel like hes lacking in certain areas.
 

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The game is out now and ive been using olimar, I dont believe he will be top tier. What annoys me about playing olimar is that his moves gets canceled out by a lot of other characters move-sets which annoys me. I feel like hes lacking in certain areas.
Are you relying too much on smashes? They're the only ones in Olimar's kit that clank with any attack. Aerials are disjointed in Ultimate and should be okay to use more liberally.
 

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What Blue Banana said. His Smashes clank yes, but with other grounded moves the opponent suffers a ton of lag from the clank while you don't. I'd recommend being more mobile and mixing up aerials, tilts, smashes, and side-b more. He's quite strong in this game from my time playing him.
 

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What Blue Banana said. His Smashes clank yes, but with other grounded moves the opponent suffers a ton of lag from the clank while you don't. I'd recommend being more mobile and mixing up aerials, tilts, smashes, and side-b more. He's quite strong in this game from my time playing him.
Are you relying too much on smashes? They're the only ones in Olimar's kit that clank with any attack. Aerials are disjointed in Ultimate and should be okay to use more liberally.
do you guys use tilt stick or smash stick? Ive been told to go tilt stick by most players.
 
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Olimar felt really weird at first compared to before. I guess that’s everyone though.

The fact he can reliably smash while retreating has made option coverage so much better. His up smash recovers much faster, too.

The grab changes trip me up a bit. Sometimes it’s just better to have one or two Pikmin just to cut down on the recovery frames.

Olimar is still a nightmare for projectile users and anyone using proximity activated moves like Falcon’s Raptor Boost it Pit’s Upperdash Arm. Those moves accept Pikmin as targets just as they accept other characters.

Down tilt has been needed a bit, since it can’t combo nearly as well as before.

The damage that Pikmin toss can generate is amazing. No doubt he can rack up the damage with the best of them.

All in all, I do think he’s better. Top tier seems like a small stretch, though. He still suffers from a harsh disadvantage state and it’s made worse by the lack of dodges this time around. He has a great neutral and option coverage, but once he is in disadvantage he’s in trouble.
 

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Being in disadvantage is part of his character and I'd argue he has a better disadvantage state in this game than Smash 4. Keep in mind Fox is also bad in disadvantage and in Smash 4 was top tier. Whistle is amazing for getting through attacks, up-b is still a great way to maneuver around people, our aerials can actually trade/beat out other attacks now as well. We don't need more than one air dodge either especially considering we can move with it.
 
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