Why is this game rated E-10 and not T?

[Toon612Link]

They showed the ESRB rating in the shulk trailer. They get rid of all the panty shots and kind of green blood? Also does this deconfirms snake?

 

[ミスティック Speed]

My first thought when I read this was:
"Because Snake's not in it."
....yep.

 

[Tesh]

All Snake ever did was blow stuff up. Unless choking people would make it T, I don't think THIS means Snake is not coming back. The way things get rated change over time. Look at the content of any G rated Disney movie from the 80s and 90s and it could easily be pg 13 these days.

Keep in mind, E10 isn't a super old rating like the others are. Maybe "T" just seemed like a safer way to classify Smash last time, but reevaluating this time came up with something lighter..

 

[Anthuhny]

Well the ESRB clearly has no idea what they are doing anyways.

 

[JMS_Eddy]

It's obligatory because Smash Bros is Smash Bros. Kinda how like only one of the Star Wars movies was rated PG-13 even though all of them had heads, arms, hands, and other things getting chopped off and people dying everywhere.

 

[Fenriraga]

Wasn't one of the reasons for the T rating the Blood Master Hand got when he broke out of Tabuu's strings in Subspace?

 

[Saint Johns]

Wasn't one of the reasons for the T rating the Blood Master Hand got when he broke out of Tabuu's strings in Subspace?

Yes, you are correct.

 

[mario123007]

Now the new Smash Bros game has a quite colorful graphic, so rated E 10+ is not that surprised to me.

 

[oscuras]

But seriously though, who really cares about ESRB ratings anyways?
10 year olds are playing CODs, Battlefields and GTAs everyday.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Well the ESRB clearly has no idea what they are doing anyways.

ESRB? Helpful?



You'd think partial nudity would at least blow up the rating a little.

 

[The Revolutionary Cafe]

Honestly it seems this game has more of a reason to be T than Brawl did

Spoiler

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

But seriously though, who really cares about ESRB ratings anyways?
10 year olds are playing CODs, Battlefields and GTAs everyday.

Blame the parents for not raising their children better.

 

[xLemmy_KoopaX]

Brawl was rated T for Cartoon Violence and Crude Humor.
Smash for 3DS/Wii U was rated E10 for Cartoon Mischief, Cartoon Violence and Mild Suggestive Themes.
Isn't Wario also in 3DS/Wii U too? And Wario Waft was confirmed on the Wario trophy in the leak too. I don't know why the ratings are like that. O_o

 

[Raijinken]

Brawl was rated T for Cartoon Violence and Crude Humor.
Smash for 3DS/Wii U was rated E10 for Cartoon Mischief, Cartoon Violence and Mild Suggestive Themes.
Isn't Wario also in 3DS/Wii U too? And Wario Waft was confirmed on the Wario trophy in the leak too. I don't know why the ratings are like that. O_o

Wario himself doesn't make fart jokes. That was Snake and the Colonel. Same for Samus. She was always suggestive themes, now we just also have Palutena, Wii Fit, and Shulk, and presumably don't have Snake (or at least don't have codec calls) saying things like "Samus took her clothes off!"

 

[Smash_Veteran_Amtoj]

Nothing was wrong with Snake in my opinion. He could easily get into a E-10 game.

 

[RADSheikah]

Blame the parents for not raising their children better.

Shots have been fired!

 

[Raijinken]

Nothing was wrong with Snake in my opinion. He could easily get into a E-10 game.

I don't think he'd ever been in a game rated less than M before Brawl, though I could be wrong.
But that aside, rating severity changes over the years as society changes. I still remember finding "damn" in Megaman 7 and thinking that was odd in a KA-rated game (which, that too shows how ratings have changed, that one doesn't even exist any more). Melee was T, but it also existed before E10 did. FE Path of Radiance was T, but its sequel (which looked better, was slightly more profane, etc) was only E10.

 

[DutchPichu]

Well, in PEGI, it's 12+, Brawl is also 12+, so in Europe, there's no real difference. But I hate Snake.

 

[RedFly]

Panty Shots are gone now.

 

[Superyoshiom]

Brawl shouldn't have even been rated T. This is a good change.

Blame the parents for not raising their children better.

Don't make me fear for this generation of parents...

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Panty Shots are gone now.

Rosalina's different since they dont want her to be sexualized, Peach on the other hand probably still does since her Amiibo shockingly has panties put on

 

[RedFly]

Rosalina's different since they dont want her to be sexualized, Peach on the other hand probably still does since her Amiibo shockingly has panties put on

Well, Amiibo's are different. They are figures which are in real life and have nothing to do with the ESRB Rating.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Well, Amiibo's are different. They are figures which are in real life and have nothing to do with the ESRB Rating.

They're also based on the character model, so Peach will atleast still have panty shots, Palutena to (everyone else idk)

 

[RedFly]

They're also based on the character model, so Peach will atleast still have panty shots, Palutena to (everyone else idk)

Palutena? Since when? She wasn't in any demo and there is no confirmed amiibo of her.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Palutena? Since when? She wasn't in any demo and there is no confirmed amiibo of her.

There was a picture a couple months ago that spotted Palutena's panties or something similar(taken from the trailer)

 

[sWiTcHeRoO [疾~斬]]

I'm honestly surprised this isn't at least T because of Samus' "upgraded" bosom and alternate costumes. Same with Shulk's swimsuit, though he hardly matters since females being sexualized are the ones that make a bigger deal. Though it's not just Samus, the trophies for characters like Barbara and Tharja (assuming Tharja's is legit, I'm sure Barbara is back either way) kinda add on to that as well.

Maybe since this game has less of a realistic look to it and looks more colorful and cartoony it fits the "cartoon violence" tag better, which probably warrants a rating for audiences younger than teenagers.

 

[Hong]

As someone involved with localization, I can vouch for the fact North America is immensely sensitive and the rating system can be volatile. A lot of T should be E/E10+. A lot of M should be AO.

It wasn't until after Melee shipped that E10+ was actually a thing. It gave us a healthy distinction between partially-exposed bodies and actual sexual implications.

 

[StaffofSmashing]

Blame the parents for not raising their children better.

Welcome to BASIS Flagstaff, and it's Minecraft & GTA club.
On topic... Yeah it's like the Star Wars movie. Then again Revenge of the Sith is the latest to come out and at that time the rating system had gotten stricter. Still, Zero-er Suit and Speedo Shulk should do something... right?

 

[Zango]

Melee was rated T and it lacked both Snake and Masterhand blood. The ESRB do what they want.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Melee was rated T and it lacked both Snake and Masterhand blood. The ESRB do what they want.

Undergarment shots can probably warrant a T rating, as they're typically censored for the E and E10+ titles.

 

[Themandme]

The esrb does not know what there doing. Portal 2 was e 10 when it really should not have been and that's one example. But i think E10 makes more sense

 

[Spirst]

I don't think he'd ever been in a game rated less than M before Brawl, though I could be wrong.
But that aside, rating severity changes over the years as society changes. I still remember finding "damn" in Megaman 7 and thinking that was odd in a KA-rated game (which, that too shows how ratings have changed, that one doesn't even exist any more). Melee was T, but it also existed before E10 did. FE Path of Radiance was T, but its sequel (which looked better, was slightly more profane, etc) was only E10.

I think Snake not being in a game rated less than M is more about the Metal Gear games content iself though as opposed to the character. His appearance in itself doesn't necessarily imply the rating will go up. It is odd however that Smash 4 is only E10+ yet has things like Samus in her undergarments. The world seems to have this odd taboo on anything remotely sexual so it's interesting that got through.

 

[sWiTcHeRoO [疾~斬]]

The esrb does not know what there doing. Portal 2 was e 10 when it really should not have been and that's one example. But i think E10 makes more sense

I think it's fitting, mostly because of the crude humor and not exactly easy puzzles. A kid would probably not know what to do with a game like Portal when the harder puzzles come to shove.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Nothing was wrong with Snake in my opinion. He could easily get into a E-10 game.

Peace Walker was rated T despite having fanservice on the level of this game(including an implied gay option), M rated swearing(not tame words like bas*¨*rd, words like bull****) electric torture, among other things.

Not happening unless they insanely censored it.

 

[Raijinken]

Metroid Fusion and Supermetroid were both rated E, and that's with Supermetroid having Samus (very briefly on death screens) in even more revealing undergarments than what she got in Smash.

Who knows. ESRB's weird, I've always generally thought CERO's ratings were more reasonable on that regard. Then again, cultural differences go a long way, and America has historically been so anti-sex, anti-religious symbolism, and anti-blood that the recent changes and slips may be a sign that the ESRB is finally catching on to the change in public attitude.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Metroid Fusion and Supermetroid were both rated E, and that's with Supermetroid having Samus (very briefly on death screens) in even more revealing undergarments than what she got in Smash.

If you want another SNES example, EarthBound was rated K-A in the West; no way. Abusive parents, religious subtext, terrorism, a ton of allegories and a disconfirmed yet popular and nightmare inducing Giygas baby theory, and of course Giygas himself.

They re-rated it T for the VC release.

 

[cmbsfm]

I don't think he'd ever been in a game rated less than M before Brawl, though I could be wrong.
But that aside, rating severity changes over the years as society changes. I still remember finding "damn" in Megaman 7 and thinking that was odd in a KA-rated game (which, that too shows how ratings have changed, that one doesn't even exist any more). Melee was T, but it also existed before E10 did. FE Path of Radiance was T, but its sequel (which looked better, was slightly more profane, etc) was only E10.

There was a metal gear solid game on the gameboy color which was rated E.
It had stuff like snake smoking in the intro.
He was also in dream tv mix world fighters which didn't get the japan equivalent of T

 

[Raijinken]

If you want another SNES example, EarthBound was rated K-A in the West; no way. Abusive parents, religious subtext, terrorism, a ton of allegories and a disconfirmed yet popular and nightmare inducing Giygas baby theory, and of course Giygas himself.

They re-rated it T for the VC release.

Wait, seriously, it got a T on VC?
I mean, it makes sense, but it's still weird in my mind (since I have the original SNES copy).

Good thing Fire Emblem 4 and 5 never made it to Merica (I don't mean that. I'd love a localization so much). Incest as a key plot point, and beyond the normal levels of genocide and whatnot.

But yeah, points made. ESRB is so confused about ratings. E10 feels very fair for a Smash game, though.


Blue blue blue.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Wait, seriously, it got a T on VC?
I mean, it makes sense, but it's still weird in my mind (since I have the original SNES copy).

Good thing Fire Emblem 4 and 5 never made it to Merica (I don't mean that. I'd love a localization so much). Incest as a key plot point, and beyond the normal levels of genocide and whatnot.

But yeah, points made. ESRB is so confused about ratings. E10 feels very fair for a Smash game, though.


Blue blue blue.

Is it a surprise it would be rated T after all it has? (timeless OG copy is timeless)

...I didn't need to know that FE fact lol

Only thing that would bump the rating would be Snake. Perfect Dark may have buffed Melee's rating if it were mentioned by name, so there's that.

 

[sunshinesan]

In Kid Icarus Uprising, you can rotate the idols you collect any way you want, except for the idols that had potential panty shots. It was intentionally and individually programmed in. I wonder if the new Smash also have this feature.