Whose Mafia Is it Anyway - Game Over!

[#HBC | ѕoup]

#HBC | Ryker

Im the town oracle u weenie

 

[#HBC | marshy]

this whole thing is dumb

youve spent the last 48 hours or so just ******** about the hammer thing. if you had simply played mafia, you wouldnt b getting **** on so hard. part of me thinks youre scum but the other part is like 'he couldnt b this bad as scum.' but then again its hard to think youre this bad as town

hopefully you just get clapped by scum and give us a free town/mafia

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I'm Town Oracle kiss my ***

Oh.

Huh.

 

[ranmaru]

Soup, if you think reads are fake, then vote someone you feel is scum then. I think we need a paper trail from you at the very least. The record shows that you voted Lore after a drawn out argument with him. As you can see, I'm playing in a closed manner, but I have my vote out there at the very least and change it if my reads change. You were just sitting on your ass. Do you disagree?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Soup, if you think reads are fake, then vote someone you feel is scum then. I think we need a paper trail from you at the very least. The record shows that you voted Lore after a drawn out argument with him. As you can see, I'm playing in a closed manner, but I have my vote out there at the very least and change it if my reads change. You were just sitting on your ***. Do you disagree?

Vote: Pythag

Done

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I have yet to look at the set-up. Give me a second.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I'm probably wrong on Lore

Unvote

What changed here?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

What changed here?

I think we just got too emotional with each other and it was clouding my judgment as the idea of scum being on me early has been really heightened for a while.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Why do readslists matter so much? They're so easy to fake, man. I'd say scum are more willing to give them because it takes 0 thought to randomize a bunch of people and think of bull**** reasons. I get it's about credibility but scum love faking credibility because it gives them more room to push bad lynches under the pretense of muh reads

Because then you have a bunch of bull**** reasons they have to rationalize when they need to shift their stances later. Readlists SINK scum players later.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

EBWOP: I don't think that all scum are on me and there's probably a few weenie townies and I thought about it and felt like Kary had more equity for trying to be the safest game imaginable

 

[Fandangox]

Why do readslists matter so much? They're so easy to fake, man. I'd say scum are more willing to give them because it takes 0 thought to randomize a bunch of people and think of bull**** reasons. I get it's about credibility but scum love faking credibility because it gives them more room to push bad lynches under the pretense of muh reads

Because it gives content, it let us know where your head is at, and I asked SPECIFICALLY caused you said you disagreed with another readlist, meaning we can potentially get more insight of both players.

If its so easy to give one, then give me one.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Because it gives content, it let us know where your head is at, and I asked SPECIFICALLY caused you said you disagreed with another readlist, meaning we can potentially get more insight of both players.

If its so easy to give one, then give me one.

I gave you a on-the-brain one just to Ranmaru, I wanted to take my time and I guess that's what annoys me

 

[Fandangox]

One is definitely Kary, and I think you're wrong on Spak for reasons I was hoping to get into

Why hoping? Last I checked you are still not voted out, you could give us those reasons now.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Meanwhile Kary nowhere to be seen discussing in the scumchat what to do

 

[Fandangox]

A few inches from a hamburger.

Realistically, I think a lot of the Lore/Soup interaction is ****ing useless. You have a situation with Soup doing stupid **** and then getting angry about being pressured for doing stupid ****. I need to dig further into his explosion, but my primary issue with Soup is his original sin with that vote. I don't care if it was a joke or not.
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You really think we don't get anything out of the other on Lore or Soup flip?

 

[#HBC | marshy]

cut the passive aggressiveness and play the game. youve complained about being wagoned, weve given you ample material to provide, play ball

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Why hoping? Last I checked you are still not voted out, you could give us those reasons now.

Have you read Spak's posts? Dude has the tone and clarity of a really friendly next door neighbor. I'm sorry, I know this is not substantiated either but for ****S SAKE! Please give me a moment to chill out because I am clearly frustrated and not thinking properly right now so I would be unhappy with whatever answer I'd give you.

 

[giraffelasergun]

Post reserved for vote count

 

[ranmaru]

I still want Spak lynched. Curious to know what changed for you from your #99 to your #457 in regards to Spak.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

The only argument I see for Spak honestly is if you believe Spak has the capability to fake tone in the way he has. If I'm leaning on tone for my reads it's because that's what I do, and I think most of them are pretty ****ing good. Spak is not a player who would concede to someone like that if he were scum, he would back up his thoughts and try to sell his own disposition, but instead he's shown interest otherwise. When I said I was indecisive to you Fanny, it was that reason alone. I backed on my Spak read earlier on because I just felt like there's no way Spak's capability to fake that is possible, and that's not an insult to Spak rather he would be far more mechanical in his assumptions if he were scum.

Spak had every opportunity to bury Lore there for coming at him the way he did and he merely conceded when he did nothing wrong. I don't see Scum just deciding that wasn't a good opportunity. I thought at first perhaps that meant Lore was suspect so I tried to push where Spak dropped it but now I'm feeling like maybe this is what scum wants. I talked about this before about the dangerous precedent, and now you see why I was talking about it.

Jeez.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Soup, did you crumb at any point?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Soup, did you crumb at any point?

I never crumb, I usually just keep it in my pocket until I have relevant information or I'm forced to. Obviously, I was not at L-1 but my emotions got the better of me.

 

[Lore]

Unvote

I am fine with continuing the Soup lynch for a plethora of reasons, but I don't want this wagon anywhere close to hammer time until we hear from everyone on the wagon why they are OK with risking a PR lynch.

I personally believe that his inconsistency in his defense ("I didn't realize vote count" to "saying I didn't know post count was part of the joke" then back to saying it was just a mistake), his blow up, and his lack of scum hunting make him feel like scum going for damage control to me.

I'd like to hear similar confirmations from every wagon person that they are OK with the risk before I hop back on. This is not a lynch where lazily just keeping the vote on is OK.

 

[ranmaru]

Why did you claim this early? Also why didn't you go further into Spak as you are doing now back then when Gorf and I were talking to you? Why did you dip from that point?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Unvote

I am fine with continuing the Soup lynch for a plethora of reasons, but I don't want this wagon anywhere close to hammer time until we hear from everyone on the wagon why they are OK with risking a PR lynch.

I personally believe that his inconsistency in his defense ("I didn't realize vote count" to "saying I didn't know post count was part of the joke" then back to saying it was just a mistake), his blow up, and his lack of scum hunting make him feel like scum going for damage control to me.

I'd like to hear similar confirmations from every wagon person that they are OK with the risk before I hop back on. This is not a lynch where lazily just keeping the vote on is OK.

I am an un'CCd PR, get a better alibi

 

[giraffelasergun]

Votecount

Soup (4): Kary, Kevin, Ryker, Fandangox
Lore (2): Marshy, Tom,
OrangeXHTML (4): Gorf, Ranmaru, Frozen Flame, Pythag
Pythag(2): OrangeXHTML, Soup

Not Voting(1): Lore

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Why did you claim this early? Also why didn't you go further into Spak as you are doing now back then when Gorf and I were talking to you? Why did you dip from that point?

I was mad and I hate seeing town do stupid **** even if it's my fault. Sorry.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Unvote

I am fine with continuing the Soup lynch for a plethora of reasons, but I don't want this wagon anywhere close to hammer time until we hear from everyone on the wagon why they are OK with risking a PR lynch.

I personally believe that his inconsistency in his defense ("I didn't realize vote count" to "saying I didn't know post count was part of the joke" then back to saying it was just a mistake), his blow up, and his lack of scum hunting make him feel like scum going for damage control to me.

I'd like to hear similar confirmations from every wagon person that they are OK with the risk before I hop back on. This is not a lynch where lazily just keeping the vote on is OK.

So, is Soup still your leading lynch?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

It's funny because in my notes it says "don't trust any claims from soup from now on. he would have outed himself at L-3 if he had a PR"

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I want that Lore response, but I REAAAAAALLY want to just freeze the thread until I hear from Tom/Kev/FF on this one.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

It's funny because in my notes it says "don't trust any claims from soup from now on. he would have outed himself at L-3 if he had a PR"

You're going down with me biotch

Taste my steel.

 

[ranmaru]

Soup, what's your read on me right now? Talk to me more about Frozen and Pythag.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I am an un'CCd PR, get a better alibi

That might or might not exist.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

That might or might not exist.

It exists so decrees my Role PM! I'm riding that to the bank

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Soup, what's your read on me right now? Talk to me more about Frozen and Pythag.

You/Kary aren't scum together

 

[ranmaru]

That's really lazy.

 

[Lore]

I am an un'CCd PR, get a better alibi

Scum can risk a fake claim, and you claiming so early makes me believe it is possible.

So, is Soup still your leading lynch?

Yes. Ran's sudden thinking about setup makes me immediately suspicious upon a Soup flip, since it shows that setup was on his mind at the time. Which it would be if scum had been discussing setup for a fake claim.

I also would like to look more into FF and Pythag for the reasons I agreed with Tom on, but Soup is my focus. I also am unsure on Spak, but I would like more time to think on him. I'm 50/50 on my lean direction with him.

I want that Lore response, but I REAAAAAALLY want to just freeze the thread until I hear from Tom/Kev/FF on this one.

Hence my unvote.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

That's really lazy.

Sorry I couldn't doctor a bull**** paragraph for you, especially when I talked about these things before that are getting definitely skimmed

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

This claim and subsequent posts has made me want to lynch Soup MORE, not less.

 

[Lore]

I'm gonna be oracleing Kary cause his push has no weight now and he's been townread for the dumbest ****ing reasons

My game now

Also the smugness at the end of this post ****ing reeks. Especially after your blowup. We're expected to believe you went from boiling pissed to sickeningly smug in such a short time frame?