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Enigma14

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Why do people do NOT want to see characters in Brawl?

I can understand why people hate a character, but to the point of not seeing them in the game is excessive right?

I mean if you hate a character for getting in, will it ruin your fun? Will u go crazy just because that 1 character is in; in some way like a sticker or a AT or a PC?

Its ridiculous.

In the past before I've said that I can't see certain characters in as a PC or I don't think they're coming back, but I never said "I DON'T WANT THEM TO BE SEEN PERIOD"

If Brawl is going to be ruined just because of 1 character does that mean u won't play the game?

Anyone who says anything immature sounds like they're from gamefaqs, hell I'll post it right there, as well.
 

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Great bland title, by the way...you might wanna change that by going into advanced edit.
 

DeuceBlade

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I don't think people care whether or not someone gets in, they are just afraid that their character's spot will be filled. This doesn't affect me since Diddy Kong and Samus will be in brawl..

The only other character I want.. Is K. Rool, and I'd hate for someone like Wolf or Waluigi to get into brawl when K. Rool could have.
 

Enigma14

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Thoeritically lets say K. Rool is a boss, would u still be crushed? Or not want him in at all?

Also...

Geno, Ridley, Lucario, Ashley, Krystal and Olimar or clones?
 

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I don't want Tingle. That's about it.

I only want Lucario, Claus, Bowser Jr, Wolf and Captain Olimar playable.

It doesn't really bother me that much for who else gets in. I guess I do care about some Veterans though.
 

Enigma14

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Ok so would you see Tingle in as a sticker or not in the game or mentioned at all?
 

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They probably think that the unwanted character will take up a slot a more deserving character could of had.
 

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I hate them because 2 years after release I'll look at the select box and think that their slot could've of been spent on another character.
It's been years after Melee, do you honestly believe that people focus on THAT aspect of Melee?
 

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Well, 4 of my character choices have been ripped to shreds by AT's, I'm confident twice as many more will suffer the same fate, so I'm going to accept whatever they give me as PC's.
 

Chaosblade77

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I don't not support a lot of characters. (wow, the grammar there was horrendous) The only ones I actually don't want to see are the ones that I dislike for one reason or another.

However, I also am not really supportive of a lot of specific characters either. On most, I am neutral, and argue against them more than for them because I would personally rather see my few supported characters in.

Now, the way my logic works is like this: I know that Brawl has a limited number of characters. However, I also know that all of the characters in the game are complete (if they are not done yet, it's getting another delay). With that said, how much good does it do to support a character and argue that "they should be PUT in Brawl."

All I do with the few characters I support, and say why they should have been included, and hope that they are, and if there is a time I am negative toward a character, I always give a reason. The character in question might be out prioritized, or one of many other reasons, it just depends on the character.

It's not so much that I don't want to see many characters, and if I am not supportive/negative toward a character doesn't mean that I would hate it if they are in, it just means I don't expect to see them in, or would prefer that the character slow be given to another character that is more deserving (or that I like more in some cases).

Of course that is for playable. I don't give a burnt french fry for who gets Trophy or Sticker.
 

Enigma14

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In the past i've read that if so and so is a AT or a sticker or not a PC or is in they would say...

"I don't want this game! I'm not buying it! "or" WHAT?! THIS RUINS THE GAME!"

And well its interesting to see that so and so posted that just because a character got in or not.
 

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It's not he fact that I don't want somebody, if is the fact that the person may interfear with another charater I want.
 

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what elvishspirit said, if a character gets in interferes with one I want in. and the character that interferes isnt worthy of getting into brawl by logical reasons, then I dont think they should be in period.
 

Enigma14

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So its either in or not.

What about the possiblity of AT or sticker or thropy?
 

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So its either in or not.

What about the possiblity of AT or sticker or thropy?
ok let me rephrase what I said, I dont want another character who logicaly doesnt deserve a spot as a PC and hurts a character I want in as a PC then I dont think they should take a playable character spot. but its not like I am going to lose any sleep if ray01 isnt in. although I will be dissapointed for a short amount of time. however I dont care if they are made into a assist trophy or sticker or normal trophy.(sticker seems to be the lowest of low on the totem pole).
 

Chaosblade77

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So its either in or not.

What about the possiblity of AT or sticker or thropy?
I've never seen people so strongly against a character that they don't even want to see them in game as a sticker or trophy... only playable.
 

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Yeah... the time and efforts used to develop that character could've of gone to someone better.

This is why plain and simple. Sure they may say they have other reasons, but we all know this just isn't the case.

But how do we know which characters are 'important' and which ones aren't worth the effort. This is where things get icky and in the end it boils down to your personal opinion/bias'.

I'll even admit if i saw a joke character from one of these random threads.... lets say Metapod got in over Ridley/Geno/Captain Olimar/Midna hell even Ashley then yeah I'd be complaining! So truthfully I can be hateful towards certain characters.

Yeeeet I don't think i would ever say anything like 'K. Rool should be a Boss!' because lets face it, thats the sort of thing thats going to come back and bite you when you're waiting on your own Newcomer.

This is all basic knowledge thou! :)
 

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I hate Captain Olimar and Tingle but if there in I won't mind.(I'll just use them as a punching bag)
 

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Characters like Pichu, Dr. Mario, Paper Mario, and Wind Waker Link do not deserve to be in Smash since they are just alternates of pre-existing Nintendo icons. I want to see different characters and not some look-alikes. Should OoT Link, LttP Link, and Zelda 2 Link be playable instead of Lip, Ray 01, and Olimar (which are completely original characters)?

I would rather have Waluigi or Tom Nook than another Mario or electric rat.
 

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Characters like Pichu, Dr. Mario, Paper Mario, and Wind Waker Link do not deserve to be in Smash since they are just alternates of pre-existing Nintendo icons. I want to see different characters and not some look-alikes. Should OoT Link, LttP Link, and Zelda 2 Link be playable instead of Lip, Ray 01, and Olimar (which are completely original characters)?

I would rather have Waluigi or Tom Nook than another Mario or electric rat.
I couldn't agree more! It's the diversity of the characters that makes a fighting game great. Well, and the gameplay mechanics. :)
 

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It's not that people don't want to see a character in at all. It's that some characters should have PC priority over others. Sometimes it's just obvious.

Geno, Ridley, Lucario, Ashley, Krystal and Olimar or clones?
Geno? Maybe, but only if Sakurai gets through the nasty red tape and paperwork.

Ridley? A proverbial shoe-in if there ever was one.

Lucario? Might be deconfirmed soon.

Ashley? Negligible.

Krystal? Probably a shoe-in too, thanks to all the Krystal furries. But Wolf still > Krystal.

Olimar? Probably, considering he's Miyamoto's brainchild.
 

Enigma14

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so are you just saying this because every character you want is every character that no one else wants?
While back some1 made a statement that so and so ruined the game and that they werent going to buy it since 1 character ruined the game. Was just wondering how ppl would react to this.
 

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I said it the day I started supporting him for Brawl.

Even if Michael /Mike from StarTropics makes it in in whatever shape or form, I'll be happy. At least that means we're one step closer to the ressurrection of the franchise.

Same goes for Crono from Chrono Trigger.

I won't be crushed if Mike or Crono become assist Trophies, cause I already have Sonic, and I can settle with Pit. (I only hope that if Mike doesn't make it in... at least I could still have Ness to fill in that yoyo void)

I was a bit let down with Little Mac becoming an AT... but at least I got to see his awesomeness in 3D. :p Sure.. I doubt we'll be getting any new Wii Punch Out (with Victorious boxer out), but it's sill to see him there.

I'm not really AGAINST a character not coming into the game at all. But rather than having a roster full of pop-culture characters, which might get OLD in the next gen (e.g. Sheik) I'd like to see those memorable classic characters reach playable status. I mean those characters that NEVER get old, from the 1st gen Nintendo consoles.
 

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Yeah, most people would say that it would take up another character's space. I mean, that could be true, but it's just an assumption. If your going to get mad at something, get mad at your supported character's exclusion, not the inclusion of a character you feel indifferent about.

I do think that some characters deserve it more than others based on popularity and importance to it's own franchise. For example, main characters deserve it more than secondary characters, obviously. THE main character deserves it the most. Also, I think Ridley and Olimar are VERY likely, but not because I'm a fan of either (because I'm not really). Ridley is not only a main villain in the Metroid series, but he is extremely popular. Olimar is part of an innovative franchise that can be considered a gamecube mascot (imo). Honestly, I think Geno also has a great chance, but this is solely based on popularity.
 
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Yeah, most people would say that it would take up another character's space. I mean, that could be true, but it's just an assumption. If your going to get mad at something, get mad at your supported character's exclusion, not the inclusion of a character you feel indifferent about.

I do think that some characters deserve it more than others based on popularity and importance to it's own franchise. For example, main characters deserve it more than secondary characters, obviously. THE main character deserves it the most. Also, I think Ridley and Olimar are VERY likely, but not because I'm a fan of either (because I'm not really). Ridley is not only a main villain in the Metroid series, but he is extremely popular. Olimar is part of an innovative franchise that can be considered a gamecube mascot (imo). Honestly, I think Geno also has a great chance, but this is solely based on popularity.
But...
This is Brawl, not a popularity contest. Popular characters put Sakurai to sleep.
 

Boofer

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But...
This is Brawl, not a popularity contest. Popular characters put Sakurai to sleep.
Yes, I know. I was actually going to mention that, but lets not forget that popularity IS definitely a factor. It's just not the only factor. Of course he's going to put in character's with the potential for a unique moveset, but not only are there a crapload of potentially great characters but who would be great is subjective. Those obscure picks are somewhat based on the team's bias, therefore the only other possible way of guessing who deserves a spot is based on popularity. So far he HAS picked some of the most requested characters.
 

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Characters like Pichu, Dr. Mario, Paper Mario, and Wind Waker Link do not deserve to be in Smash since they are just alternates of pre-existing Nintendo icons. I want to see different characters and not some look-alikes. Should OoT Link, LttP Link, and Zelda 2 Link be playable instead of Lip, Ray 01, and Olimar (which are completely original characters)?

I would rather have Waluigi or Tom Nook than another Mario or electric rat.
Those are the only type of characters in there that I don't want in. Maybe not possible for Assist Trophy while you're at it. However, they shouldn't be playable nevertheless. Even if one of them gets in there, I'm going to compliant and don't buy the game because the game is too good to pass up on. Aside from that, any character can do aside from silly choices, like Metapod.
 
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