What was your reaction to Little Mac's AT reveal in Brawl?

[AustarusIV]

The title speaks for itself.

For me, I was really disappointed to see one of my most wanted characters for that game be reduced to something that was like a Pokeball Pokemon. But back then, I was somewhat skeptical of characters who were very popular overseas but not in Japan making it in as playable characters, so it left me worried that it would have been his only recurring role in the series.

The fact that he wasn't even very good (from my experiences) just rubbed salt in the wound.

Thankfully that won't be the case for SSB4. What did you think of Little Mac as an Assist Trophy?

 

[DraginHikari]

I don't remember Mac being a major deal during Brawl's development, though I think part of that is at the time there were other within Mac's sub-catagory that he chances never seemed very high to me. The fact they at least acknowledged him seemed decent to me at the time.

Really I do think it was his revival in 2009 with the Wii Punch-Out! that kind of brought him back to the forefront of many people's mind.

 

[evildevil97]

He was my most wanted character, even in Brawl. I was just happy to see him referenced.

 

[Vann Accessible]

I was sad as he was one of my more desired characters, but I was happy he was acknowledged at all. And Brawl had so many other good newcomers I wanted (Pit, Wario, Diddy, Olimar, ROB, Sonic), I let it slide.

I would've been severely pissed if Mac wasn't playable this time around. With Punch-Out making a comeback on the Wii, it would've been unforgivable.

Good to see Sakurai come through!

 

[greenluigiman2]

I don't really remember. I'm pretty sure I wanted him in Brawl, and I'm pretty sure I was disappointed, but I don't remember the moment that well.

 

[Banjodorf]

At the time I wasn't too phased, because I was excited about all the other newcomers, and since he was retro at the time, I'd already assumed it was just Pit that go around.

This time though, being non-playable would've been unforgivable. With PO Wii, and Mac being so faithfully brought forward in time, just...GAH! Mac deserves every bit of this newfound Smash attention. I'm glad to see even with all the unexpected newcomers, Sakurai saw fit to bring Mac into the game.

So. Happy.

It kinda reminds me of a Miiverse post I saw when PO came out on the Wii U. Somebody drew Mac in the jumpsuit saying "I can do it Doc! I can fight with the Smash Bros.!"

And I was like "I sure hope so Mac! I sure hope so! *sniff*. You GO, Mac!!

...It also helps that he was mine and two of my other friend's most wanted character for this game. So yeah...

Really glad Sakurai didn't keep him as a mediocre AT that he was in Brawl. He looks like the beast he deserves to be!

 

[ErictheLone]

I was pretty depressed, which became rage when idiots on various forums started with their 'lul 'why did you even think he was possible' gloating. I got over it by reading the threads of other characters that didn't make it. That helped to put things in perspective. Not every character can get in. There will always be that bad feeling for someone out there. I'm very thankful that Mac got in, and I'm hoping that the popular characters get in too. I can see the merits of pretty much every character, for one, but also because I really don't want to see the forum teeming with sad/angry people, people making fun of fanbases, people getting banned left and right, ect.

 

[papagenos]

he was my most wanted character in brawl, devastated when he was revealed as just an assist trophy.

Thats when i jumped on the geno train but knew that was never likely.

Having Mac in the new smash feels like redemption years in the making, VERY happy about him being in the game.

 

[ProjectAngel]

"Who's this guy?"

*Looks up 'Little Mac on Wikipedia*

"Oh, OK."

 

[Johnny Wellens]

I recognized him immediately and thought "Well cool at least they're including him." It was only after Brawl's release that I realized how much of a cool character he would be as playable.

 

[Morbi]

That was the moment of conception for my love of all that is Mac. I didn't know who he was at the time; so I wasn't disappointed or devastated, but I definitely began to enjoy the character. I wanted him in the game after his reveal as an assist trophy, I had always wanted a fighter in Smash, someone who actually knew how to fight. I honestly liked his design, dat bowl cut. However, it wasn't until Smash 4 that he became my most wanted, he is the reason I even got into boxing.

 

[8-peacock-8]

"Oh cool. We got a Punch-Out character."

 

[shinhed-echi]

Even though I was relatively new to Punch Out!, it was a terrible feeling. I really thought that Little Mac was going to be a unique, straightforward fighter. His game being a classic and all, I just couldn't get why he wasn't Playable Character material.
Back in the Brawl days, I rooted for more retro pics. As in, half the roster. So Little Mac, being one of the Nintendo retro figureheads becoming an AT was sorta like... I dunno, having your Queen taken down in Chess.

Then I started hoping for "Super" Little mac to get in instead. (As in, the character from Super Punch Out!)

I remember once it was confirmed that neither version of Little Mac was playable, I recalled having a lonesome disc gathering dust somewhere in my room. It was a DVD containing episodes of Hajime no Ippo anime.

That was probably the best rebound I've ever had.

 

[WonderSmash]

I was bummed out, he was one of my most wanted fighters

 

[FrostShock]

"...Who?"

I had just missed the SNES days by the time I had the motor skills necessary to play video games, and as such, I had never played Punch Out!! or even heard of it. On top of that, something about him just seemed... off. I can't put my finger on it, even to this day. I don't know, maybe it's the bowl cut he had back then. Regardless, I've played Punch Out!! Wii, loved it, and I'm stoked that Mac's here.

 

[LF2K]

I was pretty bummed. He was one of my most wanted newcomers back then. Glad he's in this time!

 

[RomanceDawn]

I was really disappointed. I really wanted him back then and I was jumping up and down like a mad man during his reveal trailer.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

"Who's this guy?"

*Looks up 'Little Mac on Wikipedia*

"Oh, OK."

Pretty much my thoughts. Never had a chance to play Punch-Out prior to Brawl, so it was nice to see more variety. Happy to see him in this time!

 

[Sahfarry]

Really I do think it was his revival in 2009 with the Wii Punch-Out! that kind of brought him back to the forefront of many people's mind.

I can confirm that the Wii game made him more relevant, but he was still pretty big before it.

 

[BBG|Scott-Spain]

Unquestionably disappointment. On the other hand, if characters like Knuckle Joe weren't getting in, neither was he.

 

[Spazzy_D]

Sad. So very, very, sad.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

To quote one green ogre:

"Grab your torch and pitchforks!"

 

[StaffofSmashing]

Playing Mike Tyson's Punch Out while watching the trailer, I was like "Man, Mac should be in this game. I followed the dojo every day, but only one meme can describe how I felt about what I saw that day;

 

[Davidreamcatcha]

I was acquainted with Punch-Out!! through hacking the original Animal Crossing, where it was a full playable game. I loved the characters, beat it and learned online that it was one of the prominent Nintendo retro titles...so when Brawl was first revealed, I was really hoping he'd be playable. I was of course disappointed to see him unplayable when Pit got the nod instead. But hey, he's here now - so that's water under the bridge.

 

[raymundoTheGod]

"Well that's neat."
(Carries on)

 

[Deleted member]

I'll be totally honest, I hated the concept of Mac as a character before his announcement. All the concepts I had seen for the character seemed incredibly bland, and he wasn't even a retro character, so I saw no reason to include him. My opinion of this character was very negatively altered by both his assist trophy in Brawl killing himself every time I manage to summon it, and his incredibly generic Super Smash Bros. Crusade moveset, which in part I hated because Ryu was already in the game and Ryu has HADOUKEN! and SHORYKEN! something that Mac lacked. I actually missed the part of the direct where he was announced, so I just saw comments in the chat like "LITTLE MAC IN SMASH BROS!!!!11!!!!" and I was kinda pissed off because again, I thought he was a really boring character choice. "All he can do is punch," I thought. "How can you make an entire moveset on that, and make it interesting?" However, the Sm4sh team instead of using the vague gimmick of "later you use special moves in a combo, stronger they are" presented a much more interesting idea for the character, and I found myself actually looking forward to him. They went above and beyond my expectations, and I am very grateful for that. I have no intentions of maining him unless the jogging suit is added as a costume, but I will certainly mess around with him when the game is released.

I apologize if I offended any people who had fond memories of Mac's assist trophy or Crusade developers with this post. I'm just stating my honest thoughts toward the character both pre and post reveal.

 

[Spinosaurus]

Wait did I read that right?

Ryu is Mac but with a shoryuken and a hadoken?

Karate = boxing now?

 

[Deleted member]

Wait did I read that right?

Ryu is Mac but with a shoryuken and a hadoken?

Karate = boxing now?

Other way around. Mac is Ryu minus the Hadouken (his up and neutral specials are both Shorykens) in Super Smash Bros. Crusade. Ryu was added first, and Mac has a lot of similar looking moves to Ryu's. This is one reason why I started to hate the character. They are by no means clones, but I always found Mac largely redundant because he couldn't HADOUKEN!

Also turns out I read the title to this thread wrong. I'm an idiot

I had no opinion on his being an AT in Brawl, because I had no internet. I formed a very negative opinion about his AT when it kept jumping off the cliff like an idiot. I mean c'mon. You can't even be HIT why would you throw in the towel without punching anything? WVBA Champion...

 

[Spinosaurus]

Other way around. Mac is Ryu minus the Hadouken (his up and neutral specials are both Shorykens) in Super Smash Bros. Crusade. Ryu was added first, and Mac has a lot of similar looking moves to Ryu's. This is one reason why I started to hate the character. They are by no means clones, but I always found Mac largely redundant because he couldn't HADOUKEN!

OH! My bad then, I didn't think you meant Crusade. (Didn't even know Mac was a character.) I thought you were comparing boxing to karate, generally.

 

[AustarusIV]

I had no opinion on his being an AT in Brawl, because I had no internet. I formed a very negative opinion about his AT when it kept jumping off the cliff like an idiot. I mean c'mon. You can't even be HIT why would you throw in the towel without punching anything? WVBA Champion...

Yeah, I pretty much loathed the Little Mac AT because of how useless it was. It was almost as bad as Helirin, which didn't even attack.

 

[Deleted member]

Yeah, I pretty much loathed the Little Mac AT because of how useless it was. It was almost as bad as Helirin, which didn't even attack.

To be fair, Mac and Helerin have a higher confirmed kill count than Hammer Bro. and the Infantry and Tanks.

Well for me at least.

 

[TechPowah]

I dunno what you guys are on, Mac's AT is crazy good, or at least on my end. He always gets at least 2 KOs when there's more than 2 players in my game. Then again, we usually play on stages where ATs have a hard time falling off. :V

 

[shinhed-echi]

I dunno what you guys are on, Mac's AT is crazy good, or at least on my end. He always gets at least 2 KOs when there's more than 2 players in my game. Then again, we usually play on stages where ATs have a hard time falling off. :V

This.
But only when I'm careful, and I release the AT in the center of the stage. This way, Little Mac and Saki can be quite useful.

 

[Tino]

I didn't know who Little Mac is because I've never played a Punch-Out!! game before I saw him in Brawl. Pretty unique Assist Trophy character.

And it's good to see him appear in the new Smash Bros. games again as a fighter. I'm so excited.

Makes me wish I had Punch-Out!! on the Wii though.

 

[STiCKYBULL3TZ]

I loved it. I played Punch-Out!! for the NES and SNES. They're great games. When I first saw Little Mac I was like "Ohhh that's so sick!" And he was super powerful! I never really thought about him being a playable character for some strange reason but too happy they made him one.

 

[meleebrawler]

Looking back on it now, it's almost unbelievable how similarly Smash 4 Mac moves like AT Mac (right down to his terrible
jumping lol).

 

[kylexv]

My younger self said "Who?" and never bothered to look it up.

 

[BS_Dang]

Everytime i picked up an assist trophy I would always hope it would be Little Mac, and be sad when it wasn't