What makes Mario low tier?

[Ray/Boshi]

Matador pretty much said everything that needs to be said degarding that debate on Mario's end.

I'm with viper though partially. Mario can dominate, but even then, you would need to have a extensive knowledge of every character to benefit your chances.

The best advice I have ever recieved in any fighting game was on soul calibur.

"Learn and play as your opposition often. Get good with every character, then play as you're favorite on the side. You'l win every round easily. Because you will know what's possibly coming your way."

 

[hippiedude92]

Delta, WTF? ARguing a luigi vs mario debate again? >_>. We've covered that Mario has outranged luigi in smashs.

And matador, I think you already madeyour point lol.

ontopic: What do ya think of mario's ground game generally? I think of it as a mid-tier or semi-low tier potential.

 

[ThatGuy]

Yea, the only thing stopping him from rising is tournament turn-outs. We have like maybe 5 Mario mains going to tournaments with Mario, that's not enough to make a substantial raise. Why did I have to live in Canada .

Come now, you have no excuses.

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=194526

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

From what I've heard, Mario hasn't been used enough times in tournaments. If more people try to main Mario and win with him, maybe he'll be raised to middle tier in the next set of months.

 

[Monk/Honkey/Banana]

I would just like to say...for Luigi's shield OOS options...if you perfect shield it's pretty much a free anything(I've gotten Up-B OOS kills playing as Luigi)....

also Matador...you are the big mean step dad of the Mario boards...anyone that says anything is basically nothing

 

[Delta_BP26]

Delta, WTF? ARguing a luigi vs mario debate again? >_>. We've covered that Mario has outranged luigi in smashs.

And matador, I think you already madeyour point lol.

ontopic: What do ya think of mario's ground game generally? I think of it as a mid-tier or semi-low tier potential.

I don't like it when someone says that Mario> Luigi. Luigi> Mario in almost everything. Mario's ground range beats Luigi, Mario's gimping slightly beats Luigi, and his OOS options slightly beat Luigi. (Mainly due to his traction, but there's powershielding) I think that's just it.

Also, I added the "Mario is awesome" because you wrote that Mario does NOT deserve low tier, and future tournaments will prove this, and so I agreed.

 

[hippiedude92]

No one else likes a mario vs luigi compare and contrast at all. We've had that kind of flame wars since like wut? when brawl came out? Ask mario boards they should know.

Just get the facts straight, just look in here to be correct

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=190139

 

[Matt07]

Come now, you have no excuses.

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=194526

Haha true, I'm trying to find a ride, I live about 8 hours away.

 

[Matador]

I don't like it when someone says that Mario> Luigi. Luigi> Mario in almost everything. Mario's ground range beats Luigi, Mario's gimping slightly beats Luigi, and his OOS options slightly beat Luigi. (Mainly due to his traction, but there's powershielding) I think that's just it.

On the surface, you're absolutely right. Luigi is pretty much win. Long recovery, High kill power, great combo potential, he's pretty heavy, and he has a projectile. That's all fine and dandy until Luigi mains run into their big-brother boards and try to claim superiority, not even looking at his weakpoints.

And I never said Luigi > Mario. On the contrary, I believe that it's sort of like the Doc and Mario situation of melee. It's more down to preference than anything. If you choose one's strengths over their inherent weaknesses, then choose them. Even if you do decide that Luigi's better than Mario, come in with facts and data.

Also, I added the "Mario is awesome" because you wrote that Mario does NOT deserve low tier, and future tournaments will prove this, and so I agreed.

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[PKNintendo]

I also think Mario (along with Ness) deserve mid.

However, Infinites on both of them. (Well, Marth has a long CG on Ness, and DDD has an infinite on Mario)
lack of tourney results hurt them.

 

[ThatGuy]

Haha true, I'm trying to find a ride, I live about 8 hours away.

Cripes Matt, are you sure you live in Ontario!?

 

[Matt07]

Cripes Matt, are you sure you live in Ontario!?

Yea, a part of Ontario no one knows about.