What if a knockback-based platform fighter had "wavedashing" as its own mechanic rather than an emergent property of airdodge/dash?

[Quillion]

Like say the L trigger is for "Dash" on the ground AND the air and the R trigger is purely for shielding/dodging.

Would that provide more potential to wavedashing, or would that be mechanical bloat/too much depth?

 

[BruceTubetheScratcher]

IDK, but if you mean "Wavedash is intentionally put into the game" many platform fighters have done that

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

I believe Fraymakers has an optional devoted wavedashing button.

 

[BruceTubetheScratcher]

Yes it does and in Rivals wavedash is bufferable lol.

 

[Quillion]

IDK, but if you mean "Wavedash is intentionally put into the game" many platform fighters have done that

Not just that, more like wavedashing is its own button rather than tied to airdodge/airdash.

 

[BruceTubetheScratcher]

Fraymakers kinda does that I think you can wavedash normally but wavedashing can be its own button if you assign a key to it in the options menu.

 

[Quillion]

Fraymakers kinda does that I think you can wavedash normally but wavedashing can be its own button if you assign a key to it in the options menu.

Does it become airdodge or airdash if used in midair?

 

[Kirbeh]

It's been a while since I last booted it up, but I think Rushdown Revolt does this? I'll have to get back to you on that.

 

[Quillion]

It's been a while since I last booted it up, but I think Rushdown Revolt does this? I'll have to get back to you on that.

You mean it has wavedashing as its own button and not just a macro?

 

[Kirbeh]

You mean it has wavedashing as its own button and not just a macro?

Iirc yes, but they call it rushing instead of wave dashing. It uses a life bar rather than percentages though KB is still a factor. They also have a mechanic called spark that lets you cancel any action into another. I'll have to boot the game up tonight when I get off work to see what's changed since the last time I played.

 

[Quillion]

Iirc yes, but they call it rushing instead of wave dashing. It uses a life bar rather than percentages though KB is still a factor. They also have a mechanic called spark that lets you cancel any action into another. I'll have to boot the game up tonight when I get off work to see what's changed since the last time I played.

That's actually a good name for making it its own action rather than tied to airdodging/dashing.

Spark seems just like another name for Roman Cancel though.

 

[Kirbeh]

That's actually a good name for making it its own action rather than tied to airdodging/dashing.

Spark seems just like another name for Roman Cancel though.

That is essentially what it is but they can't really call it that so they went with Spark instead.

 

[Quillion]

I also want to add, more knockback-based platform fighters should have "rush" be able to cancel weak melee moves like jabs and tilts in Smash as well as certain special moves. Would add a lot of depth with a smooth learning curve from casual to competitive if anything.