What happened to Dinosaurs?

BenFoldsFive · Feb 18, 2002

One of the commonly asked questions is what happened to Dinosaurs? Well I'd liked to hear your opinion on the subject. Here's my opinion:

I am and christian as you might know and I believe that God created the earth. Did he create Dinosuars too? I think Yes.
I also believe in the world wide flood that killed every animal except the ones on the ark (Noah took two of every animal on the ark - a male and a female). So did he take Dinosaurs on the ark? I think Yes. So how could he fit them? I think he took baby Dinosaurs so that they wouldn't be so big.
So anyway according to the Bible when God created the earth, he created a canopy of water over the earth which protected us from the rays from the sun which also allowed humans to live much longer (it's a proven fact that the rays from the sun shorten our lifespan and the Bible talks about the canopy and it also talks about humans living hundreds of years. This all ended after the flood though, when the canopy broke, rain fell, and everything that wasn't in the ark was destroyed. You'll find the reason that I stated all this in a few momments.
It's also a proven that 95% of lizards keep growing until they die. If you were to keep a lizard for 20 years it might grow to be 5 or even 10 feet. Now think about before the flood when things could live for hundreds of years. The lizards would keep growing until they were massive sizes, beasts, which in turn we like to call Dinosaurs. Haven't you ever seen a lizard and thought "wow, that seems like that sort of dinosuar, or that kind of dinosaur". Who knows, maybe it's because lizards are dinosaurs that dont live long enough to grow into the huge beasts. That's my theory, what's yours?

INFESTD · Feb 18, 2002

it thought you were banned BF5.... and how did you get that little thing under your name from member to prodigal son? oh well...

i think that dinosaurs ate each other to extiction. first the herbivores, carnivores, thent the omnivores (change 1 or 2 around) thats my opinion. screw moses errr..... jebidiah... whatever. he had alot of crap on his boat.

INFESTD · Feb 18, 2002

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INFESTD · Feb 18, 2002

sorry, stupid computer

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Kokichi · Feb 18, 2002

Wow, congrats, you just talked about evolution!

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> If you were to keep a lizard for 20 years it might grow to be 5 or even 10 feet. Now think about before the flood when things could live for hundreds of years. The lizards would keep growing until they were massive sizes, beasts, which in turn we like to call Dinosaurs. <hr /></blockquote>Of course, that is very rough, but it is the right concept. Unfortunatly, this will most likely turn into a religious debate. Watch.

Anyways, it's mostly common knowledge now that Dinosaurs did infact roam the earth millions of years ago. Then a huge meteor about the size of Texas crashed into the earth. We have found the crash site in Arazona I believe, and I can't remember the techincal name, but it litteraly means "The Devil's ****". Weird, huh? Anyways, this crash was so huge and enourmous that it made all of the volcanoes, which were active at that point, erupt, releasing a huge layer of sulfer acid that covered the earth for days. This blocked all sunlight so the Dinosaurs couldn't see. Acid rain was common, with a Ph of 1-3. The dinosaurs quickly died away. Mammals at that time were by far inferior to the Dino's. They hid in small caves and burrows. Since they hid there they were able to survive the crash. After the big crash all of the dino's were wiped from the face of the earth. Then came the whole process of evolution. The mammals roamed the earth now.

Some evidence to back this up is that whenever we find a dinosaur fossil we ALWAYS find a layer of volcanic ash. The crater for one. Also, scientists have studied meteors and meteorites before, and there is a certain substance which all of them carry. That substance is scatterd for miles and miles away from the crash site.

Don't think that this can't happen again. It could EASILY happen again, and we really don't have the technology to stop it since we are fighting each other.

BBF, you are offically a moron. You think that lizards grew to the size of Dino's. Wow, you are sooooooooooooooooooo stupid. Sure, they can grow to the smallest dino's, but not a T-Rex. Dinosaurs were their own species. Just because something looks like another animal doesn't mean that they are related. A catapillar, for example, well, some of them, have the face of a snake. This way predators keep away. Just because it looks like one doesn't mean it is related to one. One of the coolest facts is that Dinosaurs are more closely related to birds. Even though you may not think it, and it may not seem logical, countless studies and tests have proven that their bone structure is closest to a bird's. Cool, huh?

One thing that is never explained by theists is what about all the animals after the dino's and before the humans? We have a bazillion (not real word, but you get the jist) fossils of them. If any of you here watch teh Discovery channel, you may have seen this kick-arse movie about them. It is really cool and totally true. Go to Discovery.com to find the video. I might buy it, it is loaded with teh strangest and coolest animals that ever roamed earth, and gives facts and details about how they found it.

BenFoldsFive · Feb 18, 2002

Well I am really sorry Kokichi that you know everything, but if you think LOGICALLY, if a lizard lives for 900 years, it could EASILY grow to be the size of a T-Rex. That's not even hard to believe, THINK it through.
Another thing, is how could this big asteriod kill the dinosuars and miss the zebras and elephants? Don't tell me that Dino's and Lizards aren't built the same, that's stupidity and pointless to argue about, they are built alike. Now another thing, humans and dino's lived at the same. How do I know? Well, it just so happens that they found human footpints running from a dinosaurs footprints. They found the tracks spread apart so that's how they know they were running. I'm pretty sure this site is in Texas or somewhere over there.

The Last Great Adventurer · Feb 18, 2002

Ben mammles in there current form didn't live 65 Million years ago. Thats when Dinosaurs died out. The only mammles that existed were all Rat sized rodents. After the diosaurs died out the Mammles took over. Human are even newer we've only been around in our current form for about 4000 years. Humans and Diosaurs never co-existed ever! Just go to any Dinosaur resurch site and check the timelines.

Arrow · Feb 18, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by The Last Great Adventurer:
Ben mammles in there current form didn't live 65 Million years ago. Thats when Dinosaurs died out. The only mammles that existed were all Rat sized rodents. After the diosaurs died out the Mammles took over. Human are even newer we've only been around in our current form for about 4000 years. Humans and Diosaurs never co-existed ever! Just go to any Dinosaur resurch site and check the timelines.<hr /></blockquote>But how do they know that? Were they actually there? "Oh well ummm... they have... carbon dating... and stuff..." Well, yes, and carbon dating has been proven faulty since they've been able to create oil in the laboratory that registered as being millions of years old according to carbon dating even though it was only a couple days old at most. Personally, I actually believe a very similar story to that which Ben presented... [raises flame proof shield] <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> But don't start stereotyping that all Christians believe this way, because remember: a lot of Christians believe God used the Big Bang and evolution. I just don't happen to be one of them <img border="0" alt="[Chuckle]" title="" src="graemlins/chuckle.gif" />

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Kokichi:
Wow, congrats, you just talked about evolution!<hr /></blockquote>Humans today are taller on avergae then they were 2000 years ago. Wow, it's evolution!!! The winner is you <img border="0" alt="[ROTFL]" title="" src="graemlins/rotfl.gif" /> (I'm having way too much fun with these new smilies)

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Legolas · Feb 18, 2002

i think dinosaurs just died out they could of just run out of food and decompose or kill each other off who knows <img border="0" alt="[Confused]" title="" src="graemlins/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Hunger]" title="" src="graemlins/hunger.gif" />

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BenFoldsFive · Feb 18, 2002

The only thing I don't understand about those who believe that dino's ate eachother or ran out of food is why are they the only ones that died? First, how could they have ran out of food if there are still tons of animals left. And also how could they eat eachother until they are all gone, they are other animals they could have eaten.

The Dark Side · Feb 18, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by BenFoldsFive:
Well I am really sorry Kokichi that you know everything, but if you think LOGICALLY, if a lizard lives for 900 years, it could EASILY grow to be the size of a T-Rex. That's not even hard to believe, THINK it through.
Another thing, is how could this big asteriod kill the dinosuars and miss the zebras and elephants? Don't tell me that Dino's and Lizards aren't built the same, that's stupidity and pointless to argue about, they are built alike. Now another thing, humans and dino's lived at the same. How do I know? Well, it just so happens that they found human footpints running from a dinosaurs footprints. They found the tracks spread apart so that's how they know they were running. I'm pretty sure this site is in Texas or somewhere over there.<hr /></blockquote>Ever cosider this, the human was running over the dino's tracks millions of years later?

Mario27 · Feb 18, 2002

i think that food was scarce and they starved. well not all of them. they might have just died out over time.

new smilies! <img border="0" alt="[ROTFL]" title="" src="graemlins/rotfl.gif" /> DIZZY!

oh sorry! kind of getting a little obsessed with the smilies.

The Last Great Adventurer · Feb 18, 2002

*Bangs his head aganst a wall* ARRRRRRGGGG!!!!!!

Do you people know any thing about the world around you?!!!! You act like you've never heard of dinosaurs except in passing! For the love of *bleep* your all a bunch a *bleep*s.

Here is the Adventurer's Dinosaur history 101

Dinosaurs evolve from what ever preiosly existed (fish type things)

Dinosaur spieces branch out from the origianl Dinosaurs spiece creating all sorts of differently adaptide dinosaurs.

Dinosaurs florish small mammles and birds begin to appear both desending from Dinoaurs (dino's were warm blooded and there for are no acual Lizards)

A large astroid slams into the earth. Realasing a cloud of debrie that blocks out the sun for 100s of years.

Plants begin to die from lack of sun light and herbavors begin to die from lack of plants.

Carnovores begin to die from lack of herbivors.

The dinosaurs die off. Mammles and birds begin to florosh from lack of predtors.

The sun comes back out perminity. Plants begin to grow agian.

Complex mamales evolve into primeapes. Humans comeallong latter.

And that is the history of dinosaur extinction and the rise of Mamales. (slitly abrivated)

Mario27 · Feb 18, 2002

i feel like i said something wrong. which i'm sure i did.

BenFoldsFive · Feb 18, 2002

Ya Dark Side I considered that when I heard it but then I asked if it was humans running over dinos a long time later and then the person told me that they found something that proves that is was at the same time...I cant quite remember it but I'll try to find out and tell you.

The Last Great Adventurer · Feb 18, 2002

Ben etheir your pulling our leg or you are ligitamently ignorant of the facts. Dinosaurs and humans never walked together on the earth. Any one who tells you different is a fool and a lier. How old are you anyway? you sound realy gulable.

SnorSnor · Feb 18, 2002

I know what Ben's talking about. It was something in Texas with human and dino prints next to each other that was hardened into rock by or in some lake. I don't know if it was disproven or not, so you could check things like <a href="http://www.snopes2.com" target="_blank">www.snopes2.com</a> or <a href="http://www.urbanlegends.com" target="_blank">www.urbanlegends.com</a> to see if it was disproven or not.

TLGA, expect a PM soon

P.S. to you, TLGA, you claim to be Christian, don't you? I think I remember you making that claim.
Thanks!

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BenFoldsFive · Feb 18, 2002

Ya no kidding I remember TLGA saying he was a christian but he seems to go against the Bible in every debate? What side are you on you big phony?

Gamer4Fire · Feb 18, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Arrow:
...carbon dating has been proven faulty since they've been able to create oil in the laboratory that registered as being millions of years old according to carbon dating even though it was only a couple days old at most.<hr /></blockquote>Gee, a scientist who understands carbondating and how it works is able to create a compound with a different number of C14 and C16 than normal, making it apear to be millions of years old when carbon dated. [Sarcasm]That is impossible.[/Sarcasm] Moron.

Would you please bring us some better proof than that? Understanding the concept behind carbon dating, I don't know how you could prove it wrong.

BF5- Where is your biblical proof of this water canopy, how did it stay in the air, and how did it protect us against the sun, which seems to kill us?

And friendly fact, your eyes stop growing at when you're very young, yet your nose and ears never stop growing. Along the same logic of your "Lizards to dinos," wouldn't Adam and Eve's, or everyone who are hundreds of years old (according to the bible) have huge noses and ears? Just a question.

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XDaDePsak · Feb 18, 2002

i think they all got STDs and died from interspecial sex

Mario27 · Feb 18, 2002

very likely.

Etched in a Box · Feb 18, 2002

<img src="http://iidb.org/ubb/graemlins/banghead.gif" alt="" /> BFF you have to be the most ignorant person I know. If you really think humans and dinosaurs existed at the same time, then I don't know what to tell ya. BTW, TLGA seems to be going against ignorance, not Christianity. If they coincide does that make it his fault?

Hey, why don't you get your buddy New Radicals, the "Bar Tender", to come in and support your theory?

rudy292 · Feb 18, 2002

BFF, you are a moron. As most other people said, Dino's and human's never lived together. Oh, and dino's didn't live with zebras and elephants :rolleyes:

I laugh at your stupidity <img border="0" alt="[ROTFL]" title="" src="graemlins/rotfl.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Laugh]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh.gif" />

Kokichi · Feb 18, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by BenFoldsFive:
Well I am really sorry Kokichi that you know everything, but if you think LOGICALLY, if a lizard lives for 900 years, it could EASILY grow to be the size of a T-Rex. That's not even hard to believe, THINK it through.
Another thing, is how could this big asteriod kill the dinosuars and miss the zebras and elephants? Don't tell me that Dino's and Lizards aren't built the same, that's stupidity and pointless to argue about, they are built alike. Now another thing, humans and dino's lived at the same. How do I know? Well, it just so happens that they found human footpints running from a dinosaurs footprints. They found the tracks spread apart so that's how they know they were running. I'm pretty sure this site is in Texas or somewhere over there.<hr /></blockquote><img border="0" alt="[Newbie Dance]" title="" src="graemlins/newbie.gif" /> (I love these new smiles!0

Someone shoot this kid and ban him again. PLEASE.

He thinks that Dino's roamed the earth with Elephants and Zebras. Strike one for a moron. He thinks that the footprints with the human and the dino weren't set up, and even if they weren't, we can tell if they are the same time period or not because Arrow said [sarcasm]Carbon Dating isn't real[/sarcasm]. Strike 2. No one likes you and you think that Dino's and humans roamed the earth when there is absolutly no stories, litteracy, or pottery with dino's on it. The bible says "Behemoth and Leviathan". That is really really vague. "A big monster with big teeth". <img border="0" alt="[Dizzy]" title="" src="graemlins/dizzy.gif" /> That's strike 3, and you're outa here.

Listen to TLGA. He is right. And SnorSnor, who are you to be saying that TLGA isn't a christian? I don't know if he is or not, but I have a mormon friend you believes in evolution. In fact, I know a lot of religious people that know about evolution and know that it is true. See, this knowledge is seeping into religions and fixing them.

Besides, someone who is a christain doesn't need to believe in everything. O ya, and if it wasn't said enough, BF5 you are an idiot. Don't worry, I got connections, I'll see to it that he leaves. Forever[/b[] <img border="0" alt="[Enraged]" title="" src="graemlins/grrr.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Enraged]" title="" src="graemlins/grrr.gif" />

Dark Wario · Feb 18, 2002

Ever see the movie "Mission to Mars"? Well the concept is the same (Except for the alien part). The Big bang happened. Many years later, single-celled organisms appeared. Those single celled organisms multiplied into multi-celled organisms. This process is called "Evolution. (remember that word Ben, evoooluuuuutiiiiioon) Now these organisms kept evolving, and eventually some of these organisms crawled out of the water and on the land to become land animals. These first land animals were small rodents and lizards. These animals kept evolving, eventually they evolved ito dinosaurs. The dinos lasted for millions of years, untill a huge meteor crashed into Eath causing nuclear winter and destruction of most organisms (Zebras weren't around at this time Ben. The few surviving organisms went along their way evolving. Millions of years later, humans appeared. So humans and dinos never walked the Earth at the same time. It might have been possible if the first major meteor havd never hit the Earth. Another meteor will hit the Earth eventually, it's just if we have enough technology to destroy it or not. If it does hit, the very few surviving organisms, will once again continue to evolve and start the process over...

Now your theory about if a Lizard lived 900 years, they'd become a T-Rex? Well guess what? Lizards don't live to be 900 years old. I think you have been watching to much of the Flintstones, that you fall asleep during Science class and History. <img border="0" alt="[Dizzy]" title="" src="graemlins/dizzy.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[ROTFL]" title="" src="graemlins/rotfl.gif" />

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SnorSnor · Feb 18, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> And SnorSnor, who are you to be saying that TLGA isn't a christian?<hr /></blockquote>I only asked. I didn't judge anyone's faith

McFox · Feb 18, 2002

Just to support the religious side, I'm a Christian (Catholic) but I believe the whole asteroid-slammed-into-the-Earth-thing. I know a lot about dinosaurs from when I was little, and I know a lot of Bible stories too. While I've never heard of the "water canopy" or whatever, it never said Noah took dinosaurs with him, it said he took two of every animal (which is also most likely false, where did he get two of every animal on Earth?)

Overall, while I see you tried to make some good points, none of it makes any sense.

yo · Feb 18, 2002

Its a shame I didnt see this topic before Id had loved to explain the reality to BF5 (Kokichi already did)who seems to have been living under a rock for the last 500 years (yeah protected by his water canopy thats why hes been living that long).
Now lizards into t-rexs? what? Im sure your little pokemon fan (no offence other pokemon fans) who thinks that after 200 years suddenly lizzard will evolve into biggylizzard and then into t-rex...
Seriously you better go to school... or stop reading the bible and taking it literally... geez do you actually believe all that? Im catholic also and dont buy all those stories... they were written 2000 years ago for godsake! eve and adan didnt existed either, it was evolution...
Well I think thats all

Kokichi · Feb 18, 2002

LOL at Yo. Yes, maybe someone slipped him a fake Bible that talks about pokemon, so now he thinks lizards can suddenly "evolve" after enough experience into a T-Rex! Wow! Hey, did Adam and Eve has Pokeballs?

Also, SnorSnor, you said that how could TLGA be a Xian if he believes in evolution? Well, do you believe that **** or slavery is a good thing? Hopefully not. Well guess what? The Bible says it's ok and even promotes it. Jeeze, so if you don't believe in that stuff, then I guess you're not a Xian, huh? I am just simply questioning your faith. Who or what are you loyal to? The bible, the scariest fairy tale in the world? Jesus Christ, a man who didn't come for peace, yet to "lend his sword"? Or science, only based on facts, reason, and logic?

ÊtËrÑå£ Ðã®kÑê§§ * · Feb 18, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by BenFoldsFive:
One of the commonly asked questions is what happened to Dinosaurs? Well I'd liked to hear your opinion on the subject. Here's my opinion:

I am and christian as you might know and I believe that God created the earth. Did he create Dinosuars too? I think Yes.
I also believe in the world wide flood that killed every animal except the ones on the ark (Noah took two of every animal on the ark - a male and a female). So did he take Dinosaurs on the ark? I think Yes. So how could he fit them? I think he took baby Dinosaurs so that they wouldn't be so big.
So anyway according to the Bible when God created the earth, he created a canopy of water over the earth which protected us from the rays from the sun which also allowed humans to live much longer (it's a proven fact that the rays from the sun shorten our lifespan and the Bible talks about the canopy and it also talks about humans living hundreds of years. This all ended after the flood though, when the canopy broke, rain fell, and everything that wasn't in the ark was destroyed. You'll find the reason that I stated all this in a few momments.
It's also a proven that 95% of lizards keep growing until they die. If you were to keep a lizard for 20 years it might grow to be 5 or even 10 feet. Now think about before the flood when things could live for hundreds of years. The lizards would keep growing until they were massive sizes, beasts, which in turn we like to call Dinosaurs. Haven't you ever seen a lizard and thought "wow, that seems like that sort of dinosuar, or that kind of dinosaur". Who knows, maybe it's because lizards are dinosaurs that dont live long enough to grow into the huge beasts. That's my theory, what's yours?<hr /></blockquote>this is obviously wrong. First of all, noa's ark, is 100% wrong for many reasons.

1. He can not build a boat alone or with his family big enough to fit every single kind of animal on earth.

2. He cannot find all the species; there are millions, especially in a few weeks.

3. What about plants? wen the flood clears all the trees are washed away, forests everything except underwater ones, which isnt enough food for the herbivores.

4. only 2 of every animal? The species would go extinct. Think about it. Brothers and Sisters dont have kids because they're genes are very similar and if they breed, it creates an extremely handicap person who will die. You gotta mix. So if these animals had babies, then the brothers and sisters would halfta mate to make more, but they would only create severly handicap and deformed babies that would die, because they're genes are virtually the same.

Now onto the dinosaur thing. A meteorite did hit the earth, there is evidence of the crator which blocked out the sun and killed many plants.The big herbivores died out, as did the big carnivores. The remaining dinosaurs, which were the smaller ones, evolved into birds. They're bones are similar as are many other features, and although they look they lizards they did NOT change to lizards. Dinosaurs were reptiles who evolved into birds over time. They even found feathers that did not decay on some dinosaurs.

that is the most logical reason

btw, if the flood killed every1 on earth, who did noa's kids marry?

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Arrow · Feb 18, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by The Last Great Adventurer:
Dinosaurs evolve from what ever preiosly existed (fish type things)
Dinosaur spieces branch out from the origianl Dinosaurs spiece creating all sorts of differently adaptide dinosaurs.
Dinosaurs florish small mammles and birds begin to appear both desending from Dinoaurs (dino's were warm blooded and there for are no acual Lizards)
A large astroid slams into the earth. Realasing a cloud of debrie that blocks out the sun for 100s of years.
Plants begin to die from lack of sun light and herbavors begin to die from lack of plants.
Carnovores begin to die from lack of herbivors.
The dinosaurs die off. Mammles and birds begin to florosh from lack of predtors.
The sun comes back out perminity. Plants begin to grow agian.
Complex mamales evolve into primeapes. Humans comeallong latter.
And that is the history of dinosaur extinction and the rise of Mamales. (slitly abrivated)<hr /></blockquote>Ok, here's the one problem I've always had with that theory: If the mammals and birds were starting to exist before the meteor slammed into earth, why did they survive, and the dinoaurs not? You said the herbivores died from lack of plant life... so wouldn't the mammals have also died from starvation? And then the carnivores died from lack of herbivores... what about all these mammals that are still running around free? The carnivores couldn't eat them? I don't know... the whole theory always seemed too full of holes. Not that my belief in God isn't from your perspective <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> But back to the topic, it just seems to me that any theory to the dinosuars extinction related to a meteor would have also affected the mammals. And another thing: If all the dinosaurs died, then where did the existing reptiles come from? "Ummm... Mammals evolved from reptiles, and then those mammals de-evolved back to reptiles, but smaller." Right...

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Gamer4Fire:
Gee, a scientist who understands carbondating and how it works is able to create a compound with a different number of C14 and C16 than normal, making it apear to be millions of years old when carbon dated. [Sarcasm]That is impossible.[/Sarcasm] Moron.<hr /></blockquote>Hey, I don't pretend to understand it. I'm just telling you what I heard. Don't shoot the messenger. I'll try to find the article.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Kokichi:
LOL at Yo. Yes, maybe someone slipped him a fake Bible that talks about pokemon, so now he thinks lizards can suddenly "evolve" after enough experience into a T-Rex! Wow! Hey, did Adam and Eve has Pokeballs?<hr /></blockquote>LOL!!! <img border="0" alt="[Laugh]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh.gif" /> That was actually very funny! <img border="0" alt="[Chuckle]" title="" src="graemlins/chuckle.gif" />

ÊtËrÑå£ Ðã®kÑê§§ * · Feb 19, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Arrow:
[QB] Ok, here's the one problem I've always had with that theory: If the mammals and birds were starting to exist before the meteor slammed into earth, why did they survive, and the dinoaurs not? You said the herbivores died from lack of plant life... so wouldn't the mammals have also died from starvation? And then the carnivores died from lack of herbivores... what about all these mammals that are still running around free? The carnivores couldn't eat them? I don't know... the whole theory always seemed too full of holes. Not that my belief in God isn't from your perspective <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> But back to the topic, it just seems to me that any theory to the dinosuars extinction related to a meteor would have also affected the mammals. And another thing: If all the dinosaurs died, then where did the existing reptiles come from? "Ummm... Mammals evolved from reptiles, and then those mammals de-evolved back to reptiles, but smaller." Right...[/B]<hr /></blockquote>sigh...okay, the existing reptiles were already living with the dinosaurs. TLGA already explained this but..

First: There were one celled organisms in the water, which evolved to multicellular.

Then: Small little plants began to spread in the water, which evolved from the microscopic oraganisms.

Tiny little animals started to form in the water, which evolved from the plants. Plants started to slowly move on the land.

The animals started growing more complex, like lil fish, snails, etc.

They started growing more complex, like lil sharks, trilobites etc. First insects began to crawl on land from evolution from animals in the sea.

Plants grew more rapidly, creating small forests. Insects began to rule the land. Fish and other marine animals started to flourish. First amphibians could be seen on land.

After a long time, the amphibians slowly began to change to the first reptiles i.e. lizards and alligators.

Some lizards and crocodiles etc. evolved to other repltiles like Dimetrodon (walked on all fours likea croc, but had a sail on his back, not a dinosaur) while other reptiles stayed the same. Some evolved and some didnt for many reasons, like location, climate, habitat etc.

The reptlies like Dimetrodon evolved to the first dinosaurs in the Triassic Period, while insects, amphibians, reptiles and plants co-existed, while the fish and other marine animals ruled the waters.

The dinosaurs began to grow to more huge, complex creatures in the Jurassic Period. Some lizards began to change to the first mammals like rats, or other rodents, while others remained the same.

In the Creatcious Period, the dinosaurs continued to flourish, while some of the smaller ones evolved to the first birds.

In the late cretacious, a meteor hit, causing dust to fly everywhere, blocking out the sun, killing plants, then the herbivores, and then the carivores. Insects, lizards, crocs, rats, and small birds, and some small dinosaurs survived because they are small, and dont eat much, while the big dinosaurs were huge. And although Crocs are huge, they survived because they can eat one good meal a year if they had to.

The rodents began to evolve into lil primates, the birds grew to more complex ones, and the remaining dinosaurs evolved to birds.
The early primates then evolved to humans.

That raps up everything. It makes perfect sense, just take 5min to read it.

yo · Feb 19, 2002

Well thanx Kokichi and Arrow, I just felt like answering that because it was so funny that he believed that...
Wow also that was my first lol in this forums :D
Also in response to the theory of the meteor: I think that the species that could adapt better were the ones that survived, so the big reptiles didnt adapt fast enough like to survive, but the little species like those kind of rats were fast and adaptable and thats why they did survive...

Gamer4Fire · Feb 19, 2002

I'm having a problem with this meteor killing the dinosaurs being taken as gospel. I personally believe in the twin extremes theory where the earth shifted its orbit slightly causing a massive heat wave, followed by ice age, followed again by heat wave, etc, until the planet realigned. This old theory accounts for the death of the dinosaurs by stating that their massive size didn't allow them to adapt fast enough to the extreme conditions killing off the weak and keeping the strong. (Alligators anyone?) While the other animals: birds, smaller reptile, mammals, etc and those that aren't effected by dramatic weather changes (anything in the ocean) survived.

True we have meteor craters, but we have a lot of meteor craters. I still don't believe that type of fallout would wipe out the entire planet.

ÊtËrÑå£ Ðã®kÑê§§ * · Feb 19, 2002

A meteor as big as it did would have a tremendous effect on the world. Ever watch discovery? well they had a programme on called "walking with dinosaurs" and at the end of it, it showed what might have happened if a meteor hit. (Note. the meteor that hit was suppose to be bigger than texas). Next time you're walking on a beach, pick up a rock, and throw it in the sand as hard as you can by your feet. You'll see that the rock has left a little "crater" in the sand, and that a little bit of sand went up into the air. You should also feel the rock hitting the ground with your feet, because of the shockwaves. Nowt think of a giant meteor that is miles and miles long, smashing into the earth at 100s of thousands of miles per hour. It would create so much heat, and such a shockwave, things would colapse, and waves of heat would spread apart (just think of a nuclear bomb, but a thousand times stronger). The dust and all the dirt that would get sent flying up flying miles into the sky, would get blown around and sent globally, blocking out the sun killing the plants, and then the bigger dinosaurs. (Note that most dinosaurs were not enourmous).

Gamer4Fire · Feb 19, 2002

I've watched many shows concerning the dinos. Some of them speak about the different theories while others just talk about one theory. There is even a show that only talks about the different theories.

And the U.S. has a nuclear weapon powerful enough to destroy the entire world, so stronger than a nuclear weapon doesn't cut it. Stronger than a 15KT blast or telling me that the explosion would be close to 5MT, etc. would have. I crave specifics.

ÊtËrÑå£ Ðã®kÑê§§ * · Feb 19, 2002

sure the u.s does, but dont underestimate the power nature. i personally think that thats what happened, but no1 knows for sure. your intitled to your opinion, im intitled to mine.
-ED

Yavarice · Feb 19, 2002

At first I thought this topic was about the show Dinosaurs.

So I will now destroy my beautiful post number and say:

IT'S ALL A GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY ORCHESTRATED BY GOD SO AS ONLY CHRISTIANS KNOW THE TRUTH THAT IS OUT THERE. <img border="0" alt="[Devil]" title="" src="graemlins/demon.gif" />

:rolleyes:

Yep.

Kirbo666 · Apr 2, 2002

I know i'm reviving this topic but i just need to say this. There has been a new discovery of dino bones that proves the dinos had feathers. Not to mention the fact that most of them have bird hips. This means only one thing - EVOLUTION!

The Duck · Apr 2, 2002

My belief is this: The dinosars were killed by a meteorite BUT some of them survived, evolved into birds and reproduce...they were already evolving with Archaeopteryx, the first bird, which had signifigant reptilian traits. In other words, I agree with Kirbo666.

[ April 02, 2002, 11:12 PM: Message edited by: The Duck ]

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