WBR Ruleset 1.0: Luigi's Mansion ~5 Day Deadline - Discuss B4 Voting!

[CT Chia]

DISCUSS THE STAGE BEFORE VOTING! THIS STAGE IS DIFFERENT IN BRAWL+ THAN IN VBRAWL!

Ok everyone, here's a stage vote for Luigi's Mansion. Vote Starter, Counterpick, or Banned. Stages need a 2/3 (66%) majority to be primarily in that category. If the vote is split (such as 50% Starter 50% Counterpick) then the stage will be in the Starter/Counterpick section.

Notes about Luigi's Mansion

-The stage runs at 1/5 the speed as it does in vBrawl. This allows for longer periods of time when the house is destroyed. This also makes it so the house takes an eerily long amount of time to be destroyed and rebuild itself (as in the animation).
-Some disastrous combos can take place when the house is intact. Characters like Meta Knight and Olimar are known for this.
-Very campy stage with a "circle camp" pattern when the house is intact.

Poll Deadline: 5 days

 

[Veril]

Its worth mentioning the absurd survivability of anyone within the mansion as well as the projectile blocking pillars. The weirdness of its rebuilding animation isn't a substantive problem as far as actual gameplay is concerned.

I'm on the fence with this one as it, but I'm voting CP for the obvious fact that the mansion is destructible.

 

[JCaesar]

A lot of people dislike this stage, but I think most people are just unwilling to learn how to play it. Leave the mansion when you are at high %, destroy it when your opponent is at high % or they are using it to camp/run away or they are using a character than can abuse the ceilings. It really is that simple. They can't do much to stop you from tearing it down, especially if they are intent on camping.

 

[_Yes!_]

It's definitely not neutral anymore, but not banworthy.

 

[GHNeko]

What I want to know if its possible to reduce the life of the building so that it's destroyed sooner so it doesnt take 43058340583 attacks to break the house.

 

[JCaesar]

If it falls like a deck of cards then it might as well be Deadlands. It's fine how it is now.

 

[GHNeko]

I didn't say making it fall like a deck of cards, but simply just reducing the life span a bit.

 

[Revven]

What would really help this stage is if the pillars at the top counted as damage towards the bottom pillars. I never understood why you had to break the bottom pillars in order to break the top ones, it never made any sense to me.

To me, this stage still seems CP/Banned. Why? Because of reports of stalling I've heard that took place in vBrawl. With the speed you are given in Brawl+, stalling on this stage could become a more prominent strategy for a lot more characters (and it would actually be a lot better for MK here as well). The only plus side is that now you can tech easily so you have NO EXCUSES for missing your techs on the ceilings when you get thrown onto them. But, even with that and the slower respawn time of the mansion, I still think it should be CP/Banned, leaning more to banned still.

 

[JCaesar]

What stalling? Stalling here would be no different than stalling on FD or WWR. If you get circle-camped and you're too stupid to break down the mansion (especially now with the massive respawn time), you deserve to lose.

 

[CT Chia]

What stalling? Stalling here would be no different than stalling on FD or WWR. If you get circle-camped and you're too stupid to break down the mansion (especially now with the massive respawn time), you deserve to lose.

which is now why im considering cp instead of banned from vbrawl

 

[shanus]

1.5 minutes of broken house is quite substantial. I think it is enough to nullify effective forms of circle camping.