Villager's AT Compilation Thread

[skillskillfiretruck]

so jump cancelled up smash with villager slides a littlle bit,
I fused it with DIRTBUS, but it does no extra sliding. It's just good to slide a bit more incase you fail the DIRTBUS. Using C stick or A+up is pretty much the same for me.

Next I tried the edge sliding (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtMBrKq_iCE) to DIRTBUS.
Edge sliding DIRTBUS goes a bit further than normal DIRTBUS from the edge, due to the edge sliding. I compared it on Battlefield using where the fire works hits the first floor platform as my measurement.

Edge sliding is heaps good on downsmash.

Next part, is for perfect pivoting, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtMBrKq_iCE which I still haven't gotten good enough at perfect pivoting.

If anyone can do this, that would be great. Tag me if you do please. cheers.

 

[Darklink401]

DIRTBUS still in.

Either one-chop was removed, or I still suck at it.

 

[Mtn64]

Can you OoS DIRTBUS reliably or should I just do OoS USmash
I really need to learn how to dirtbus

 

[Darklink401]

DIRTBUS still in.

Either one-chop was removed, or I still suck at it.

Can you OoS DIRTBUS reliably or should I just do OoS USmash
I really need to learn how to dirtbus

I'd suggest just Usmash OoS, for DIRTBUS, you gotta get a running start XD and dashing OoS....idk never heard of that being a thing lol.

 

[RaenUE]

As far as I can tell, B-Reversing pocket is still in, as is Instant Tree.
B-Reversing the axe and Waterslide still appear to be in, but I'd never extensively used them so I can't say that they work the exact way and that I'm even doing the right thing.

Everything else I either wasn't able to pull off pre-patch or I don't have the ability to test right now.

EDIT: sorry, The aerial B-Reversing with Axe and Pocket weird momentum thing is still in. Haven't checked doing it on the ground.

 

[captain clutch]

That "glitch" regarding throwing an item and jumping off the Lloyd is still in

 

[AnchorTea]

Add Cartwheel Pivot. It's a new Villager AT that I discovered.

 

[Darklink401]

Add Cartwheel Pivot. It's a new Villager AT that I discovered.

...where? :D

 

[AnchorTea]

...where? :D

http://smashboards.com/threads/cartwheel-pivot-a-faster-and-better-version-of-villagers-nair.399520/

 

[Darklink401]

http://smashboards.com/threads/cartwheel-pivot-a-faster-and-better-version-of-villagers-nair.399520/

Hmm...if I add that, I might as well add RAR bair :S it's just a standard RAR...unless someone knows otherwise?

 

[Antonykun]

Hmm...if I add that, I might as well add RAR bair :S it's just a standard RAR...unless someone knows otherwise?

Ah i see Number 6 was going farther because of the horizontal momentum?

 

[Darklink401]

Ah i see Number 6 was going farther because of the horizontal momentum?

Nah, just seems like it cuz of the reverse spin. It realistically can't go further, because there's no additonal horizontal momentum.

 

[AnchorTea]

Nah, just seems like it cuz of the reverse spin. It realistically can't go further, because there's no additonal horizontal momentum.

It is much more faster and adds options though.

 

[Darklink401]

It is much more faster and adds options though.

It's not faster, it simply reverses the usual rotation.

What are these options you speak of, tho?

 

[PEPESPAIN]

It is a normal RAR, not a new AT

 

[AnchorTea]

I

It's not faster, it simply reverses the usual rotation.

What are these options you speak of, tho?

It does reverse the rotation, though, so itd knock someone away differently, and hit faster from his underside.

 

[skillskillfiretruck]

The horizontal distance you travel from RAR nair is longer than a normal jump nair. Nice finding on that.
RAR nair is not faster. both nairs come out on frame 3, jumping is like 1 frame.

 

[Tommy - S.N.]

Villager Innovative Techniques Guide (Part 2) Just4U

 

[DoctorRotom]

Forgive me for sounding like a filthy casual, but is there a visual cue for DIRTBUS? I'm having a little trouble getting the timing down. It's sporadic at best.

 

[Darklink401]

Forgive me for sounding like a filthy casual, but is there a visual cue for DIRTBUS? I'm having a little trouble getting the timing down. It's sporadic at best.

It's just hard to do lol

Do it as his arm moves back, after the dash...I think

 

[DoctorRotom]

It's just hard to do lol

Do it as his arm moves back, after the dash...I think

That helped a bit actually! Thanks buddy. I wish it were just inputs like DACUS lol. Timing on tech has always been a little problem for me.

 

[Darklink401]

That helped a bit actually! Thanks buddy. I wish it were just inputs like DACUS lol. Timing on tech has always been a little problem for me.

Villager has some incredibly precise stuff...One-chop (RIP, pre-patch), DIRTBUS, and now it seems we might have Lloid Brake.

Which btw will be added to the list of ATs when we can find out more about it.

 

[Tommy - S.N.]

Villager has some incredibly precise stuff...One-chop (RIP, pre-patch), DIRTBUS, and now it seems we might have Lloid Brake.

Which btw will be added to the list of ATs when we can find out more about it.

Lloid break?

 

[Darklink401]

Lloid break?

http://smashboards.com/threads/lloid-braking-we-livin.403873/

 

[Darklink401]

Found out that a better visual cue for DIRTBUS is when Villager's front foot is about to touch the ground after his initial dash. You can't actually react to it, but it seems to be between having his front foot up, and having it touch the ground.

 

[Nintendoge_]

After practicing DIRTBUS in 1/4 speed, I realized there is a very slight jump in Villager's animation that signals exactly where you're supposed to input the up-smash. It's most clearly seen if you watch the video below in .25x speed and look at Villager's arm, and it happens a little before the Villager begins to crouch down. The 'jump' in the animation goes hand in hand with Darklink's explanation of right about where Villager's front foot touches the ground.

This little inconsistency in the animation has vastly improved the accuracy of my DIRTBUS attempts; so much so that I was even able to get the last three DIRTBUSes in my video in a row, despite the fact they were on higher speeds! Hopefully this helps anyone who's trying to get the timing down

I don't have access to any editing software, so forgive me for the sloppy nature of this video.

EDIT: Turns out I DO have some editing software, so here it is in super slow motion so you can better see what I'm talking about. The annotations tell you where to look.

 

[Darklink401]

^^^^

noyce~

YOU CAN TAKE OUR TREES

BUT YOU CAN'T TAKE OUR DIRTBUS


Anyone tried doing a dirtgrab?

It'd go pretty far if it works for that, like with lloid and pocket as well xD

 

[DoctorRotom]

This. This helps. A lot.
@ Nintendoge_ Thank you kind sir.

Edit: @ Darklink401 Dirtgrab? Forgive my ignorance. I've neglected my Villager for a while.

 

[Darklink401]

This. This helps. A lot.
@ Nintendoge_ Thank you kind sir.

Edit: @ Darklink401 Dirtgrab? Forgive my ignorance. I've neglected my Villager for a while.

Well the DIRT (dash into run transition) not only applies for upsmash, but also for pocket and lloid, and I THINK for dash attakc and grab it should as well.

So we just call them like DIRTPocket, DIRTlloid, etc XDD

 

[Nintendoge_]

Well the DIRT (dash into run transition) not only applies for upsmash, but also for pocket and lloid, and I THINK for dash attakc and grab it should as well.

So we just call them like DIRTPocket, DIRTlloid, etc XDD

I need to try getting grab with this..

 

[Lochy]

Im gonna start using DIRT now! Yay!

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Why is this not stickied?

 

[AJL]

I'm not quite sure yet, but I believe DIRTBUS works as DIRTBFS (forward smash) too.

 

[Darklink401]

Why is this not stickied?

Cuz @Indigo Jeans is lazy o3o

idk actually xP

@ AJL I wonder, because normally you wouldn't be able to perform a smash out of a run unless it's an upsmash x.x

 

[AJL]

Oooh, oops. I might've done it in the initial dash animation then.
Something I do during edge guarding is stand about a bowling ball diameter length from the ledge and wait (preferably in shield). If my opponent happens to lose their invincibility, I dash in and FS out of it which usually catches them off guard since I'm not right at the edge. Plus I can still punish other getup options.
I think I assumed that Villager slides during the FS part and thought the ledge was stopping me. But hey, FS out of dash could be useful for something. Or I've just been stupid in the last 2 posts. There's that too.

 

[Darklink401]

Oooh, oops. I might've done it in the initial dash animation then.
Something I do during edge guarding is stand about a bowling ball diameter length from the ledge and wait (preferably in shield). If my opponent happens to lose their invincibility, I dash in and FS out of it which usually catches them off guard since I'm not right at the edge. Plus I can still punish other getup options.
I think I assumed that Villager slides during the FS part and thought the ledge was stopping me. But hey, FS out of dash could be useful for something. Or I've just been stupid in the last 2 posts. There's that too.

Villager's dash animation stops really quick, so he can definitely dash > fsmash, tho for what you described, Foxtrot-cancelled fsmash might be quicker.

 

[AJL]

Hmm, never thought of that.

 

[trevskeet]

Hey guys, throwing another accidental discovery at you. Haven't been able to replicate it yet, but hoping one of you can: some kind of delayed lloid~

Edit: had to replace the link

 

[AnchorTea]

Hey guys, throwing another accidental discovery at you. Haven't been able to replicate it yet, but hoping one of you can: some kind of delayed lloid~

Time to hit the lab. Again.

Edit: Is this thread worthy?

 

[trevskeet]

Might need its own topic, wasn't sure. Regardless, the replay is uploaded and searchable, if any of you want it~