Very In Depth Analysis of The Hero's mechanics and frame data + speculation

Chiroz

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I made 3 videos detailing a lot of data on The Hero and theorizing how a lot of his stuff will work.

https://youtu.be/upbA0toRFzU

https://youtu.be/iujUEdS4_x0

Part 3 will be posted tomorrow.

There are a few misspellings, but that's ok, I wasn't the one who added the text and he worked really hard/was probably really tired when adding the text. Hopefully you guys like it.
 
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Just watched the first one. It was amazing!
Seems like his normals are looking pretty good! Not spectacular, but enough to make him a competent sword fighter.

I would have loved hearing your opinion at the end.

I find it weird that after Back air, Hero would remain in a crouched stance. You mean to tell me that’s still landing lag? Definitely can’t land with this one then.

I’ll save the second video for tomorrow or some other day. The first one got me hyped and refilled my patience. I have to spread these out or the wait becomes unbearable. :(
 

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Just watched the first one. It was amazing!
Seems like his normals are looking pretty good! Not spectacular, but enough to make him a competent sword fighter.

I would have loved hearing your opinion at the end.

I find it weird that after Back air, Hero would remain in a crouched stance. You mean to tell me that’s still landing lag? Definitely can’t land with this one then.
I don't think so looking at the various landing lags in the game. Possible it has frames where you can act even though the animation isn't over, like incineroar's little taunts after a move?

Also didn't piranha plant have high landing lags at first when we first seen the trailer? Idk what his lag is though.
 

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Just watched the first one. It was amazing!
Seems like his normals are looking pretty good! Not spectacular, but enough to make him a competent sword fighter.

I would have loved hearing your opinion at the end.

I find it weird that after Back air, Hero would remain in a crouched stance. You mean to tell me that’s still landing lag? Definitely can’t land with this one then.

I’ll save the second video for tomorrow or some other day. The first one got me hyped and refilled my patience. I have to spread these out or the wait becomes unbearable. :(
I will do a video on my opinions, but I decided to wait until a bit more info is released.

The lag seen in the video doesn't really mean you can't act much earlier than that. An example is Ike's N-Air, it has about 20 something frames of landing animation, but you can cut the landing animation after frame like 11 or so, so the actual landing lag is 11, not 20+. Until the char releases we can't know what the landing lag is actually like, but from the landing animation we can know it won't be more than X amount of landing lag basically.
 
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