Utrick'd3 Mafia! Light at the end of the tunnel!

[KevinM]

Also if I get executed. look to RR for scum the way he's playing now is pretty blatantly scummy and anti-town ruy, thinking he may have been either the alignment swap or just playing nervous now that his buddies are dead

 

[BarDulL]

Posting here to confirm I'm not executing or hammering yet.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Also if I get executed. look to RR for scum the way he's playing now is pretty blatantly scummy and anti-town ruy, thinking he may have been either the alignment swap or just playing nervous now that his buddies are dead

...where did this 180 come from?

 

[KevinM]

Your day play thus far, pretty sure I pointed that out in my last post that you quoted

 

[KevinM]

Odd enough I also don't remember posting I thought you were obvtown or anything of that nature so it's not really a 180 as much as a posting my reads

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Odd enough I also don't remember posting I thought you were obvtown or anything of that nature so it's not really a 180 as much as a posting my reads

You did,

Oh are you gonna get all bristled now because this isn't revolved around the Bardull does ****ty gambits to cause players to our themselves show anymore?

Stop trying to butt heads with me and pull an inactive card, I'm not inactive now so follow what I said.

Red Ryu, you're pretty townie to me who would you be lynching right now and why? I want to know specifically why the more specific you can get the better, bring up some quotes if you can.

Yo Gova you scum dude? You've been a non-factor this entire game, I just read through all your posts and literally don't have a semblance of where you stand on any player

Right here.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

@Mod: Requesting people must post on their hydras so I can actually find posts instead of searching 3 different accounts.

 

[#HBC | J]

Ugh, I have no drive, but I am not getting lynched.

Give me till tomorrow, hopefully I can get something in between classes.

 

[#HBC | J]

@Mod: Is it alright if I post on my main account until Ryker gets back/fully into the game? It'd be much easier and help my activity. Ryker still wants to play though.

I think hydra restrictions are ********, people know who's in a hydra anyway. I mean try to post on your hydra for everyone else's sake but if its gunna be an extended stretch of time go nuts

For RR. It's just for a bit.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

So claim wise, nothing screams scum to me.


J's claim is odd to me, so it Gova's but I'm not gonna lynch off that when I know Glyph and thrown in powers in the past that literally did nothing.

~

Ignoring the Recruitment/alignment change reads still stand like this.

Bardull - No way he was scum before the end of D3. His actions and stances don't match up at all with what neither vinyl. nor Swiss were doing.

Swords - Doubtful, his actions don't match up either and his stances to lynch Swiss hydra is not something I would push as his mate, busing at that point doesn't make sense to me.

Dietz - I'm not sure scum would be given a role that hunts an indy, plus it's frowned upon to give scum a second kill usually.

J/Ryker - No problems just offing this slot at all.

Gova - Role is provable, it doesn't do anything outside of forcing people to gain a posting restriction, this needs a reread.

Rake - I'm not sure, disliked his end of D3 posts but I'm trying to see what his play was right now to regain a read, he was Zen's slot and I doubted Zen was scum over just wtf town.

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Play wise I see offing J/Ryker over anyone else right now, but I want Bardull to prove it if we off them.

~

Are the masons confirmed town?

 

[BarDulL]

****ing alignment changes. Feels like Day 1 all over again.

 

[BarDulL]

Speculating the set up, 1 indy + 3 mafia (1 yak) seems too scum sided.

 

[#HBC | J]

I think with claims, Ditzy is cleared based on him not being a part of the original mafia, and the only way he could be mafia is by being recruited.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Vote Count​

Leading Man [2] - RR, Jdietz
Jdietz [1] - Bardull
>mfw this hydra [1] - Rake
RR [0]
Swords_R [0]
Bardull [2] - MOD, MOD
Orbo [0]
Rake [0]
Gova [0]

Not voting: Leading Man, >mfw, Swords_R, Orbo, Gova


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch! Deadline for D3 is set at August 30th at 11:59 PM Eastern Time!
​

(spoiler I'm posting this so you guys post more get going)

This makes it less and less likely Rake is scum, non converted.

This is the vote count before Orbo claimed the guilty and Rake wanted them offed over others.

Busing is not something scum was aiming for at this point.

Zen also went at Vinyl. head first without hesitation. Also at Soup, Zen was hunting.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

J here's my thing.

I don;t like alot of Swiss' interactions with your slot.

They seem disgenuine, forced and like he was happy to call you scum wherever he felt like it, as if having you as scum was something worth sitting on.

And it's not even that he said "oh they be inactive = instant hate" from D1 IIRC he has been calling your slot scum and going out of his way to not even Vote / elaborate on it IIRC.

I'm going to make a connections case later but i seriously do not see why A scum Swiss would go out of his way to treat your slot specifically this way.

It just irks me and seems moreso like bussing than just random accusations thrown around, it is also matching how i saw his and Vinyls interactions.

This is the main reason why i am for your lynch at this point.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Speculating the set up, 1 indy + 3 mafia (1 yak) seems too scum sided.

Not necessarily with an all PR game.

But I am siding on caution, 2 scum left 1 recruited one not, to be safe.

I don't like 3 scum and an indy with a yak either, but Skies showed me people aren't afraid of that stuff in a 13 man.

Right now we need to keep the day going and keep people talking, you look for changes in play and expose it. That is how you fin recruited scum.

Though I will, and always will say recruitment **** is ******** in mafia.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

And it's not only that, but also how he goes straight to buddying the Ryker head, he's treating your slot so oddly throughout the days when he was alive, even when you had barely posted at all i recall posts where >mfw would target you, and it was always something that read like a bus: like : J, why aren't you posting ? OH rite your scum.

Things like that( i believe i mentioned this before) make me very uncomfortable about your slot

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I gotta come clean, I've been delving into my wifon and can see it backfiring too much from how reads have turned out.

I lied. I'm just a commuter.

I wanted to make sure I made it into lylo for sure.

I wanted to make sure I lived til end game for sure but someone could blow a whole in my gambit if I got targetted.

I use an ability called Gale Dog, it makes me untargettable for the night.

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I used it night 1 and 3.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Ryker wagon Orb for me, I'll return the favour later. You know I won't really, but let's pretend I would. What's your role/alignment? (Make sure you answer this, por favor).

J I know you're active, why so scared to post in thread without Ryker? Ah, because you're scum.

Hey guys, who wants to play a game with me? For every time you see J post somewhere that isn't this thread, take a shot. Seriously, the amount of non-commitment there is astounding, reminding me too much of FLC J.

These 3 quotes without my case are why i have such an issue with your slot this game J.

Italics: Buddying.
Underlined: First case of "J is scum" yelling. (What i believe is a bus).
Bolded: See underlined

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Well.
Why now RR (besides the lylo thing )

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I can see it backfiring if someone targeted me and said, "how did I target you?", Quick Vote to Alpha Strike.

Town loses if someone gets overzealous, I'm ending it after some thought about it.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Ahh okay.

Can you commute with other players(i.e like a type of doccing ) or is it just yourself who leaves for the night then ?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Nevermind above post.

So that we know of there is not a claimed doc, so this makes the situation a lot more interesting.

Also Kevmo is your only ability the mason thing ? (Our starting QT i mean)

 

[BarDulL]

Don't see this Day ending any other way really, so I'm gonna use my execute when I get back tomorrow afternoon on TLM.

TLM, if you have a case for scum outside of JD (don't really see JD scum after Swiss tried to get me to make a case on JD, I'm pretty much willing to take JD to lylo at this point because of that), I'll listen, but if you don't have anything else, ya gotta go. Don't like your claim really, you've been too inactive as well.

...Although...

People reading into TLM as scum: what do you make of TLM's ushering of a quick hammer on the MFW hydra?

 

[BarDulL]

Referring to D2 when I got my "guilty" on MFW and TLM really wanted to rush the lynch on MFW.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Reads like a yak trying to gain some town cred.
But i am biased , my picks now are:

Yak:
TLM
Kevmo (Another slot where the interactions have been odd from BOTH sides)(feel less strongly about this one)

Converted:
Not a clue

Town(To this point)
Bardull
JD
Rake
RR

Other:
Gova (still figuring this slot out)

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

On the unbiased side you could say J just really wanted that hammer in order be on the way toward "getting the gunman"

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

But alas, not all is well for our posse. Someone, unbeknownst to themselves has been BRAINWASHED by propaganda!

An alignment has changed!

N3 Begins!​

@Mod: Does this mean the person whose alignment flipped wasn't told either?

Someone, unbeknownst to themselves has been BRAINWASHED by propaganda!

Reading skills.
I can has ?

Anyway this makes the whole brainwashed thing a lot more complicated, we pretty much have to lynch the yack in order to work out who they brainwashed and why​

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Kittan Zero, Town Gunman Hijacker

I have this ability called "Flex them muscles". I have to hammer 3 times in order to gain control of "the gunmen" which I assume would be a vig of some sort but I have no clue. I don't understand it, but it's more Ryker's role which he can come in and hopefully explain.

Underlined : Word Choice ?

Secondly, here's why i dislike this claim :

Why would one town role be made to hijack another town role (i'm presuing this gunmen is JD) ? (And assuming JD is town, which i feel strong about ). Not seeing the need for one town role to "gain control " of another one, especially a role which seems to be , by virtue of JD and Soups claim, designed to kill the indy.

 

[BarDulL]

The kittan itself is a type of mobile suit to my understanding and is totally irellevent in regards to JD's role.

 

[BarDulL]

Not being told of alignment change would be really damn silly and it turns this game into pure ****** mode.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

It would be, Bardull if J does not bring content soon, end him.

Otherwise let him do such do we can try and read him.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Personally, I haven't read the game. Life got me at an inconvenient time as anyone who is in another game with me will attest.

Wait for J, but let me ask a clarifying question.

Were we role copped? I think we were, but am not sure.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Yeah , you got flavour copped by Bardull and J revealed your role.
Why Ryker ?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Yeah , you got flavour copped by Bardull and J revealed your role.
Why Ryker ?

Then why the **** are we about to get hammered when we're Kittan?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Flavor means jack in this game.

 

[BarDulL]

I laughed.

Obviously, flavor isn't indicative of alignment. Your role is also kinda shoddy in that you require three hammers in order to "get in the gunmen" to my understanding, and there's no way we can prove how your role works otherwise.

General inactivity and shoddy play have pretty much put your slot in the coffin. In other words, you're going to have a pretty hard time getting out of it.

That being said, I intend to execute you as the King before Day's end.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I recommend you don't so soon.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Actually, it should mean something. I'm looking at the list of flips Glyph gave me and it says that town is Alex Cross, Alphonse Elric, and General Beatrix. It says that scum is Kim Jong Il, Actual Cannibal Shia Lebeouf, and Indy Anti-Ryker.

I know my play is ****. My slot is unreadable. All I've got is a confirmed character. The role is pretty much irrelevant either way unless I was doc with a clear or Governor, so it being unprovable doesn't really matter.

I'll play the game if I am given a chance to play the game, but if you're gonna hammer, I'll just let J play it out and ask me whatever.

I thought this was a freaking wagon and that I had something I could play with right now, but apparently I get **** all without reading. You got anything else, shoot. If you don't, I'm out and you should see what J has to say.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

I have my connections points.

Top Scum pick Ryker ?