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#HBC | ѕoup

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Betting money that Karthik/Zen aren't aligned and one is scum
 

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alright...back...hit...me...with...what...you...want...me...to...look...at...otherwise...expect...my...reads...
...plus...some...catch...up...posts
 

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This is something I don't really like much. So you're just gonna flat out vote bardull and uguu for inactivity? I understand that they're not being much active, but I think pressuring them like soup would've done on bar sounds much better.


You're voting Two people you're not even completely sure what ther roles are when flipped. One of them could be scum and we could be going all "cool, we got one scum down", but I feel that's not very occasional when it happens.




Zen shouldn't really be your personal interest right now.
WRT...the...last...part...does...Vinyl...ever...elaborate...on...why...he...chooses...to...semi...white...knight...Zen...?...

@...Vinyl...where...should...his...attention...have...been...then...?...


Most of my cases? What cases? Those were thoughts.
Second, purely based on inactivity reasons?
That based on you VOTING for inactivity reasons.
That answer depends. Town will play like town and scum will also play like town.
They will both mess up and one will find the other suspicious, whether it is town or scum.
Both lurking also applies. Tell me, what was your purpose in questioning me that?
Another...one...of...those...posts...where...I...wonder...the...point...of...it...he...doesn't...address...Soups...question...really...and...then...questions...Soups...question...but...to...what...end...?...

loooooooooooooooool, I'm gonna help you out on this.

Vote: Soup
Why...did...you...feel...like...helping...on...this...?...
 

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Betting money that Karthik/Zen aren't aligned and one is scum
Talk...to...me...about...Vinyl...

Also...I'm...going...to...question...you...on...some...things...but...i...dont...understand...Zens...hard...on...for...you...this...game...

In...exchange...I'll...talk...to...you...about...my...thoughts...on...Swords...
 

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Reads...:

Town...:
...Soup...
...Orbo...
...Bardull...

Reason...for...Bardull...+...Orbo...=...Doesn't...feel...like...scum...wrt...the...gambit...and...their...reactions...to...one...another...during...it...I...dont...see...scum...Bardull...running...around...going..."...trololol...i...am...a...full...cop...JK...my...guilty...wasn't...a...gulity...I'm...flavour...cop...and...you...kill...me...game...ends..."...draws...to...much...attention...for...scum...IMO...

...And... definitely...dont...see...his...scumbud...going..."...oh...that...works...with...my...power..."

...Orbo...reads...town...also...based...on...his...reaction...to...early...pressure...

...Soup...town...based...on...a...stronger...D2...so...far...his...D1...was...kinda...weird...to...read...but...i...don't...see...it...as...scum...flailing...

Null...:
...JGova...:...Has...not...been...much...of...a...factor...or...influence...on...his...pushes...IIRC
...JD...
...The...Leading...Man
...SwordsR...:...
(...is...leaning...scummy...due...to...inexplicable...aggro...on...Soup...D1...that...post...didn't...look...righton...first...read...through...and...seemed...to...look...more...like...an...oppurtunistic...jump...)...
...mfwthishydra:...(is...leaning...town...pushes...seem...legitmate...but...he...needs...to...do...more...)

Scummy:...
Masq...(...already...went...into...this...a...little...will...quote...later...in...seperate...case...post...)...

Vinyl:...His...reads...and...reasoning...and...pushes...remind...me...of...paper...mario...were...he...played...like...a...non...factor...plus...he`s...been...on...the...popular...vote...alot...IIRC...

I...think...that...covers...everyone...
 

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...My...restrictiion...is...mad...annoying...
...JD...talk...to...me...about...Vynil...when...you...get...a...chance...
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Might be wrong about Zen here, Rake reading town already. I had no idea what Zen was doing and I don't know why he was playing the way he was, I really liked these last couple of posts from you Rake so let me respond to them:

Talk...to...me...about...Vinyl...

Also...I'm...going...to...question...you...on...so me...things...but...i...dont...understand...Zens.. .hard...on...for...you...this...game...

In...exchange...I'll...talk...to...you...about...m y...thoughts...on...Swords...
I dislike Vinyl., but I'm also confused by his play. Him voting me made no sense whatsoever, and his D1 play was absolutely horrid and didn't make much sense either, he has yet to do anything that is worth something and I know that can be classified as a vinyl. tell but something about this game is off; can go.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Scummy:...
Masq...(...already...went...into...this...a...litt le...will...quote...later...in...seperate...case.. .post...)...
This read confuses. I had Joey as obvtown D1. Tell me your perspective?
 

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...I...will...try...to...Soup...bare...with...me...through...this...restriction...lol...

...Joey...was...shouting...early...D1...at...Karys...slot...IIRC...and...when...i...read...it...i...thought...woah...mad...over...reaction...on...IIRC...him...****...ing...on...slots...in...game...it...did...not...give...me...town...vibes...there...is...also...his...flip...on...QLs...early...on...he...was...opposed...and...even...called...them...scummy...IIRC...but...now...he...is...all...for...them...?

And...his...reason...seems...very...cut...and...paste...as...in...going...VLA...does...not...mean...you...or...we...have...to...slam...a...lynch...through...quickly...I...will...grab...quotes...to... support...this...ASAP...
 

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To be perfectly honest, everyone that's suggesting a lynch/wagon this early in the game. Hate early-game wagons and quick lynches. Give scum a huge advantage imo. So you/Soup based on recent posts. Basically means I'm going to wait until post-RVS to actually develop scum reads.

Other than that, I like KevinM hydra's thoughts about lurkers and brother (RR) is pretty cool. Besides that, no other reads.

The "help scum" thing was actually mainly focused towards the quick lynch. I feel that the wagons don't actually help either side. Quick lynch encourages people to focus on the specific people that were on it in a lot of the games I've been in which makes it harder to find scum. Plus most quick lynches I've seen have been on townies.

"Basically means I'm going to wait until post-RVS to actually develop scum reads."

Which means not very serious.

This is not how mafia works.

You don't just wait for something to happen.

If you feel not enough has happened, make something happen.

Be the catalyst, create the spark.

I am considering replacing out. All I see is people moaning and taking no responsibility for progression. It will cost the game, cost me the game - I don't like losing. I win. I will not be dragged down by ignorance and stagnation.

THIS is why 99% of the playerlist on dgames is laughed at.
It's funny because it's a game so it doesn't matter if we win or lose as long as we're having fun haha.

Plus some of us don't know how to get discussion going. I don't see you doing anything yourself besides telling us what to do. Nice job *****ing at us, hypocrite.

This is why 99% of the playerlist on dgames doesn't take this game seriously. People like you ruin it for others. Get off your *** and do something if you're going to ***** and try to replace out.

@Vinyl: Where are you gonna put your vote? I haven't seen any reads from you. Is it going on Zen?

@mfw: Why is your vote on Orbo and not Red Ryu?

@Swords_R: Above^

VOTE: MFW

FORGOT ABOUT THE NO LYNCH.

YEEEAH LETS GO.

I'M TIRED OF TYPING IN CAPS
I AGREE WITH MFW DYINg... NOT SO SOON THOUGH. LETS ACTUALLY GET STUFF DONE.

BROTHER, WHAT IS YOUR PLAN FOR TODAY?

HOW DO I CAPS DODGE?

RYU, LYNCHING TESTS SANITY EITHER WAY. WHY YOU WORRYING ABOUT IT? :p.

...This isn't like you.

I never recall you asking for a QL over asking questions.
I DON'T LIKE MFW AND IT TESTS BARDULL SANITY, SO WHY NOT?

PLUS I'M GOING V/LA STARTING TOMORROW TO SUNDAY, SO ANY QUESTIONS I ASK WON'T HAVE ANY FOLLOW UPS :S.

PLUS PLUS THE SOONER THE DAY ENDS, THE LESS OF A CHANCE I HAVE OF MESSING UP MY POSTING RESTRICTION.

THERE GOES THE TESTING SANITY THING.

ALSO, WHY WOULD I BE AGAINST A QUICK LYNCH IF I WON'T BE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONING AND IF I DON'T LIKE THE SLOT? I'M ALSO TIRED OF FIGHTING AGAINST THE TOWNIES THAT NON-STOP GO AFTER QUICK LYNCHES EVERY DAMN GAME.
...these...are...the...posts...I...was...referring...too...hes...dropped...his...QL...thing...and...yes...i...know...he...says...in...one...of...them...waiting...for...post...RVS...but...even...RYU...and...Orbo...point...out...this...isnt...like...Joey...and...his...reasons...for...wanting...it...are...like...Orbo...said...anti-town...(...and...to...me...,scummy...)...and...selfish...

...Also...I...have...seen...Joey...town...and...i...dont...recall...him...being...so...defeatist...about...fighting...townies...that...go...after...QLs...it...seems...like...too...odd...a...drop...off...from...wanting...to...question...and...work...through...for...evidence...as...Ryu...suggests...Joey...usually...does...and...an...odd...drop...off...from...his...D1...stance...even...with...stating...he...was...waiting...till...post...RVS...

@...Soup:...could...you...tell...me...why...Joey...was...Obv...town...for...you...on...D1...and...does...this...mean...your...D2...read...is...different.../...changing...?
 

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...Also...I...have...thoughts...about...Bardull...proving...his...role...but...I...cant...remember...it...right...now...
 

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Just...remembered...my...Bardull...thing...:...
It...actually...has...to...do...with...Soup...,...Soup...can...lightning...rod...Bardull...and...Bardull...can...prove...Soups...flavour...(...and...ability...)..Orbo...can...do...whatever...it...is...he...does...on...Soup...or...Bardull...(whoever...he...needs...to...use...it...on...)...and...get...his...results...and...we...can...go...from...there...

...I...also...dont...understand...Swords...hard...on...for...Bardull...to...flavour...him...I...know...he...provided...reasoning...but...saying...:..."...Yo...if...you...claim...blocked...or...no...result...we...lynching...you.."...is...begging...for...possible...scum...roleblock...on...Bardull...and...the...possibility...of...Kevmo...having...some...sorta...untargetable...ability...is...there...too...

...Not...sure...how...i...should...read...Kevmos...hard...on...to...be...flavour...copped...or...his..."...Yo...I...be...so...mad...town..."...attitude...

@...Orbo...You...were...scum...with...Kevmo...once...is...this...how...he...plays...it...?...And...can...you...give...me...your...thoughts...on...him...?...
...(...if...youve...done...this...already...just...quote...it...if...your...read...hasnt...changed...)...
 

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...lie...detect...me...or...flavor...cop...me...simple...as...that
We don't have to. I can't believe no one seems to care you broke your own fake restriction on Page 9. @Rake: What are you trying to gain from pretending it still exists? Why have your reads done a 180 from Zen's. Have you flavor/full claimed yet and if so what is it?

Furthermore, if Soup dies today and is town would you be fine with dying in retribution?
In response to your Vinyl question I have no qualms with Vinyl dying at this point.

@Soup: What about Rake has you sold on Zen/Rake town now after your fight with Zen?


Orbo has been crumbing his role ALL game, not to mention that Orbo is the only one who knows how his role works, so why wouldn't I have him pick the target? His role is legitimate.
And that role is? I've seen no crumbs or claims from Orbo. Why do you trust Orbo.
How would you feel about flavor copping me tonight?
 

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We don't have to. I can't believe no one seems to care you broke your own fake restriction on Page 9. @Rake: What are you trying to gain from pretending it still exists? Why have your reads done a 180 from Zen's. Have you flavor/full claimed yet and if so what is it?

Furthermore, if Soup dies today and is town would you be fine with dying in retribution?
In response to your Vinyl question I have no qualms with Vinyl dying at this point.

@Soup: What about Rake has you sold on Zen/Rake town now after your fight with Zen?

I'm...not...pretending...anything...JD...
My...reads...180'd...because...I...am...not...Zen...simple...as...that...I...also...disagreed...with...some...of...his...reads...and...I...wasn't...going...to...stick...to...them...if...I...didn't...agree...with...them...I...am...not...sure...why...you...suspected...they...would...remian...the...same...as...Zens...reads...so...could...you...clarify...on...that...?...

...I...believe...Zen...flavour...claimed...earlier...in...thread...I...would...have...to...sift...through...his...posts...to...find...it...or...just...re...flavour...claim...which...I...have...no...issues...with...My...flavour...is...Haley...Williams...I...also...have...no...idea...who...Haley...is...

...What...makes...you...think...Soup...is...dying...or...would...die...toDay...?...
...And...I...do...not...see...how...another...town...dying...in...retribution...would...help...at...all...Would...my...retribution...death...nail...scum...?...What...does...me...dying...achieve...?...

...If...the...thing...Zen...sent...me...wrt...restrictions...was...fake...I...am...going...to...find...him...and...rip...his...lungs...out...because...this...is...already...driving...me...insane...Apparently...me...breaking...this...results...in...bad...things...happening...to...me...
 

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Also...annoying...because...I...keep...accidentaly...spacing...a...word...or...spacing...the...three...dots...somehow...This...ends...D3...though...so...if...i...am...still...around...I...wont...have...to...endure...this...torture...
 

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W @Rake: What are you trying to gain from pretending it still exists?
...JD...let...me...ask...you...a...logic...question...why...would...I...continue...to...do...something...so...insane...if...I...did...not...have...to...?...if...i...did...not...have...to...do...this...I...would...not...be...regardless...of...how...scummy...it...would...make...me...look...to...drop...it...
 

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I'm...not...pretending...anything...JD...
My...reads...180'd...because...I...am...not...Zen...simple...as...that...I...also...disagreed...with...some...of...his...reads...and...I...wasn't...going...to...stick...to...them...if...I...didn't...agree...with...them...I...am...not...sure...why...you...suspected...they...would...remian...the...same...as...Zens...reads...so...could...you...clarify...on...that...?...

...I...believe...Zen...flavour...claimed...earlier...in...thread...I...would...have...to...sift...through...his...posts...to...find...it...or...just...re...flavour...claim...which...I...have...no...issues...with...My...flavour...is...Haley...Williams...I...also...have...no...idea...who...Haley...is...

...What...makes...you...think...Soup...is...dying...or...would...die...toDay...?...
...And...I...do...not...see...how...another...town...dying...in...retribution...would...help...at...all...Would...my...retribution...death...nail...scum...?...What...does...me...dying...achieve...?...

...If...the...thing...Zen...sent...me...wrt...restrictions...was...fake...I...am...going...to...find...him...and...rip...his...lungs...out...because...this...is...already...driving...me...insane...Apparently...me...breaking...this...results...in...bad...things...happening...to...me...
I was asking if Zen would be fine dying if wrong, but then Zen stopped existing.

I'm somewhat concerned your slot did a 180 on Soup at the same time Soup did so to you, yes, regardless of your switch in. Why do you also trust Orbo and Bardull?

Why did nothing "bad" happen when Zen broke his restriction on page 9? Did Zen send you this restriction?

Can you claim in full please. Flavor and all. Haley Williams the mafia game What?

...JD...let...me...ask...you...a...logic...question...why...would...I...continue...to...do...something...so...insane...if...I...did...not...have...to...?...if...i...did...not...have...to...do...this...I...would...not...be...regardless...of...how...scummy...it...would...make...me...look...to...drop...it...
Because you (Zen) already gave yourself a D3 out. You know this only lasts as long as today, true or false.
 

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Rake do both your restrictions end after tiDay? Zen said the voting restriction would go in effect D3 again.

:phone:
 

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JD why havin. Rake fullclaim right. Now? Not even sure he'll be the lynch and having a pr outed for no real reason is eh to me.

:phone:
 

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Because his claim is highly suspect. We're nailing the details down now.

We already know he has neighbor/mason power. All he's giving us is an ID card.
 

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It's flavor related, if my interpretation is correct. Don't see a need to out anything when I'm still working through the evidence.

:phone:
 

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...according...to...Zen...on...Day...one...all...i...could...do...was...vote...and...toDay...I...must...use...the...trio...of...dots...between...each...word...it...is...called...laryngitis...and...ends...D3...

...IDK...if...or...how...Zen...was...punished...for...that...one...post...which...was...not...a...vote...
 

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No, my NA results.

:phone:
I'll have to re-read, there must be something I'm missing here with your claim.

...according...to...Zen...on...Day...one...all...i...could...do...was...vote...and...toDay...I...must...use...the...trio...of...dots...between...each...word...it...is...called...laryngitis...and...ends...D3...

...IDK...if...or...how...Zen...was...punished...for...that...one...post...which...was...not...a...vote...
You got this information from Zen? Why not from your PMs?
 

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Swords posts read off to me on this page. Literally does nothing(irl issues, whatever. I've seen him viewing dgames a lot) then goes on a spurt and calls himself obvtown? Also don't like how he wants to lynch bardull just off of claim, even if he get's RB. Would actually be fine knowing his flavor.

:phone:
@Rake-my opinion on kevim. As for his scumplay, i didn't see much of it due yo replacing out of skies. I can dig up the qt link if you want.

:phone:
 

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...Also...if...Zen...left...something...out...I...will...be...pissed...because...according...to...what...he...sent...me...this...ends...D3...IDk...if...the...other...kicks...back...up...but...I...am...assuming...it...does...not...unless...told...otherwise...
 

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Alli've said in thread is that flavor correlates to it. You haven't missed anything.

:phone:
So you're saying flavor correlates to your NA, or flavor correlates to your role?

...Also...if...Zen...left...something...out...I...will...be...pissed...because...according...to...what...he...sent...me...this...ends...D3...IDk...if...the...other...kicks...back...up...but...I...am...assuming...it...does...not...unless...told...otherwise...
What about your role PM?
 

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You got this information from Zen? Why not from your PMs?
No...idea...man...
...I...got...my...role...pm...from...Glyph...and...it...only...had...my...role...then...Zen...sent...me...a...pm...saying...Day...one...I...could...only...vote...and...toDay...I...had...to...do...the...trio...of...dots...and...it...ended...D3...if...i...broke...it...I...would...be...screwed...
 
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