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[Sandfall]

Won't be able to make the tourney tomorrow. I'm stranded in logan without a car

I wish more tournaments were closer to Logan/USU. I'd probably actually start attending them then. A $10 venue fee + $10/per event may have been easy enough to swallow alone, but throw gas and travel time into the mix? No way.

 

[SoapSuds]

PM is a cool game and I think it helps new people get into melee (like me)
People think it's because Nintendo won't sponsor the event if PM is run, this seems dangerously like Nintendo not working with or supporting the competitive community - not that this means that they'll ban melee or anything, but, it's still something.
I don't get how people could be happy about this, it's a hype smash game that's bigger right now than some of the other entries in the series.

 

[Z'zgashi]

They'll never support PM and anything Nintendo sponsored pretty much cant even mention it.

 

[ZeroKarasu]

I don't get how people could be happy about this, it's a hype smash game that's bigger right now than some of the other entries in the series.

I'm not happy because PM's not at Apex. I'm rather indifferent to the decision, actually. I'm amused because of everyone's reactions.

 

[Pumpk1nz]

Tweak is by far the best smasher in Utah. HE DOESN'T EVEN WAVE DASH and he still wins!!!!

RJ?

 

[net1234]

RJ?

no this one is real. i whooped his ass like twice already

 

[Sandfall]

I'm not happy because PM's not at Apex. I'm rather indifferent to the decision, actually. I'm amused because of everyone's reactions.

It shows that people are passionate about the game, at least.

 

[Z'zgashi]

My problem with PM is all the community problems it causes, it causes too many splits in the community (as if Melee v Brawl wasnt enough of one already), and then things like this happen where its obvious a company wont sponsor an event where their product is hacked but part of the community flips out anyway. Honestly, people are whining about bs like 'oh I thought Nintendo loved us but now they wont even get behind the competitive community' when theyve literally done nothing but cater to us lately, just because everyone wants to circle jerk a Mod.

To put it as blunt and blatant as possible, we'd be better off if PM never happened, it never solved any problems in the scene and only caused a bigger divide, made events take longer, and now is a huge disruptive factor with trying to get Nintendo to support the competitive scene.

tl;dr Just play Melee if you want to wavedash.

 

[Sandfall]

My problem with PM is all the community problems it causes, it causes too many splits in the community (as if Melee v Brawl wasnt enough of one already), and then things like this happen where its obvious a company wont sponsor an event where their product is hacked but part of the community flips out anyway. Honestly, people are whining about bs like 'oh I thought Nintendo loved us but now they wont even get behind the competitive community' when theyve literally done nothing but cater to us lately, just because everyone wants to circle jerk a Mod.

To put it as blunt and blatant as possible, we'd be better off if PM never happened, it never solved any problems in the scene and only caused a bigger divide, made events take longer, and now is a huge disruptive factor with trying to get Nintendo to support the competitive scene.

tl;dr Just play Melee if you want to wavedash.

Obviously, I'm going to disagree with this. The goal of Project M is not to "fix" brawl or solve any problems with the competitive scene. It's simply to make an awesome, competitively-oriented game that is fun to play. I highly doubt it's causing problems with Nintendo supporting the competitive scene. If supporting the scene is going to turn out profitable for them, they'll support it. That's how businesses work. Project M is not a factor in that.

When I joined the PMDT last summer, I was completely surprised by the sheer amount of work that had been put into the game (even for the casual aspects like alt costumes or All Star Versus). They were really working their hardest to provide the best experience possible for the players. Saying that "we'd be better off if PM never happened" is actually pretty disrespectful to the hard work that both the developers and players have put into the game over the years.

 

[Perfect Chaos]

I am loving, and yes, I do mean loving, the insane backlash. Lot of people worried, lot of people angry, all of it making me satisfied.

EDIT: reading this reddit thread, so much backlash. I'm laughing for real right now, guys. So much salt and pure, undistilled anger flowing. I don't want to offend people who purely play PM, but this is a perfect storm of pure, unconstrained emotions. Holy calamity, this is fun to read.

Sounds exactly like something Kotomine would say. XD

 

[Reptilephantom]

I wish more tournaments were closer to Logan/USU. I'd probably actually start attending them then. A $10 venue fee + $10/per event may have been easy enough to swallow alone, but throw gas and travel time into the mix? No way.

Yeah I think usu is starting to have weeklies soon? I'm not living in logan right now I just came to visit my parents and my car broke.

 

[ZeroKarasu]

It shows that people are passionate about the game, at least.

People can be passionate about something and not overreact.

If the Apex team thinks that the removal of PM is important, then who are we to judge? It's not as if PM is never having any more tournaments.

Well, unless the big N wants to issue a C&D.

 

[Death Arcana]

BLACKENED is the End
Winter it will Send

 

[Sandfall]

People can be passionate about something and not overreact.

If the Apex team thinks that the removal of PM is important, then who are we to judge? It's not as if PM is never having any more tournaments.

Well, unless the big N wants to issue a C&D.

When a large amount people are passionate about something, there will be those who overreact. Not saying it's the right thing to do, but it's just something that is unfortunately bound to happen.

 

[ZeroKarasu]

Sounds exactly like something Kotomine would say. XD

Rejoice. Your wish shall finally be granted.

When a large amount people are passionate about something, there will be those who overreact. Not saying it's the right thing to do, but it's just something that is unfortunately bound to happen.

Yes. I quite agree.

 

[net1234]

My problem with PM is all the community problems it causes, it causes too many splits in the community (as if Melee v Brawl wasnt enough of one already), and then things like this happen where its obvious a company wont sponsor an event where their product is hacked but part of the community flips out anyway. Honestly, people are whining about bs like 'oh I thought Nintendo loved us but now they wont even get behind the competitive community' when theyve literally done nothing but cater to us lately, just because everyone wants to circle jerk a Mod.

To put it as blunt and blatant as possible, we'd be better off if PM never happened, it never solved any problems in the scene and only caused a bigger divide, made events take longer, and now is a huge disruptive factor with trying to get Nintendo to support the competitive scene.

tl;dr Just play Melee if you want to wavedash.

but now theres one more event for me to clean up. and EVERYONES a scrub

 

[adlp]

there will be a side event of PM guaranteed

dont even fret, boyz

 

[bellsworth46]

Neumont Smash Jam - A Year of Smash Events Posted:

FB: here
Smash Boards: here

It's happening on the 22nd and is set to be my last tournament as the TO. Hope to see everyone there!

PLEASE NOTE ALL STARTING TIMES ARE PUSHED BACK AN HOUR TO ACCOMMODATE FOR MELEE DOUBLES!

 

[Roguay]

PLEASE NOTE ALL STARTING TIMES ARE PUSHED BACK AN HOUR TO ACCOMMODATE FOR MELEE DOUBLES!

YES

 

[ZeroKarasu]

Anyone want to team with me?

 

[Pumpk1nz]

Neumont Smash Jam - A Year of Smash Events Posted:

PLEASE NOTE ALL STARTING TIMES ARE PUSHED BACK AN HOUR TO ACCOMMODATE FOR MELEE DOUBLES!

YESSSSUHHHHHH

 

[adlp]

too many cooks

 

[ZeroKarasu]

too many cooks

Why, oh why, did you have to remind me?

 

[Z'zgashi]

too many cooks

I was literally crying at a few parts lmao

 

[Reptilephantom]

too many cooks

I feel left out.

Edit: Is anyone smashing tonight?

 

[Meleeruler]

I feel left out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrGrOK8oZG8

Also, the tournament was fun, Idaho is still too good. Shoutouts to myself for having to face @DuskMarthWater round 1. Also shoutouts to @Jekyll for flying in and being the neatest dude.

 

[net1234]

Shout outs to roy dittos in grand finals. also shoutouts to gkirbs for carrying me in PM doubles.

 

[devo_]

Saying that "we'd be better off if PM never happened" is actually pretty disrespectful to the hard work that both the developers and players have put into the game over the years.

Yeah that's EXTREMELY disrespectful. Kinda made my blood boil a little bit.

 

[Atticus_22]

Every one watch this 1 minute melee with Captain Falcon VS Captain Commando. Its sick.
http://youtu.be/5LWSq4vkZ0w

 

[Sinz]

My problem with PM is all the community problems it causes, it causes too many splits in the community (as if Melee v Brawl wasnt enough of one already), and then things like this happen where its obvious a company wont sponsor an event where their product is hacked but part of the community flips out anyway. Honestly, people are whining about bs like 'oh I thought Nintendo loved us but now they wont even get behind the competitive community' when theyve literally done nothing but cater to us lately, just because everyone wants to circle jerk a Mod.

To put it as blunt and blatant as possible, we'd be better off if PM never happened, it never solved any problems in the scene and only caused a bigger divide, made events take longer, and now is a huge disruptive factor with trying to get Nintendo to support the competitive scene.

tl;dr Just play Melee if you want to wavedash.

There are going to be splits in communities no matter what. It doesn't even matter if there isn't anything to split on. There will always be something for fighting over. That's how competitive scenes work. They always have that problem.

PM making events take longer is a funny one. Because Smash 4 and Brawl are slow as **** and go to time so much. This is not a valid point against having it as a game in a tournament.

The amount of work that has been put into PM is immense. It's extremely impressive.

It didn't solve any problems? It made it easier for people to get into the competitive scene. It was extremely attractive to high level and low level players alike. It's a well made game that is more balanced than melee. (IMO.) It has an extremely diverse cast and it can actually be updated to fix things. That's fantastic.

And you know whats the best part? They aren't charging you anything to do this. They are working off of an existing model and doing what they feel will be the most healthy thing for the competitive scene.

Also, the whole Nintendo has done nothing but cater to us is a bull**** part. There were so many events and campaigns that were started by the community to get Nintendo to support events like Evo. Previously there were issues where they couldn't even stream the damn game because of Nintendo. Yes, things are good right now but that is because they are about to release a new game. This favoritism from Nintendo won't last.

While I completely understand and respect that Nintendo wouldn't want to sponsor an event with a modded game I think they are taking it the wrong way. Rather than push it away they should use it to their advantage. A few major examples of modded games that are then used by the original company as a tool aren't hard to find. Look at DayZ. I really didn't like the original game but I found that extremely fun and ended up buying the game so I could continue to play it.

 

[Remioli]

Looks like ZZ is here to complain about PM for another few pages.

Well the tourney was fun although took crazy long. Hopefully that'll change with no more brawl (even though that sucks).

Nice job to Devon beating X again. Definitely took the title for the best brawl player.

Good playing to Dagoomba. All I'm worried about is learning to play against Diddy for now lol.

Also sucks what happened with Ebo not getting put in the bracket after waiting all night.

Really excited for smash4 to keep going.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Looks like ZZ is here to complain about PM for another few pages.

Im not going to do anything, I couldnt care less.

 

[adlp]

Im not going to do anything, I couldnt care less.

but i[/] could care less

 

[adlp]

woops messed up the easiest bbcode command ever lets leave my mistake there for everyone to see my attempt at an unfunny joke

 

[Sinz]

Also my car is going to Idaho again.

Me
Net
Chuckwaffles
TheGinge(?)
and 1 more space open.

Also the power of friendship was strong with BlueWaffles.

 

[Jdawg9876]

I dunno about the rest of you, but I'm ready for winter to be here already despite the bad weather that may or may not come.

 

[Reptilephantom]

Also my car is going to Idaho again.

Me
Net
Chuckwaffles
TheGinge(?)
and 1 more space open.

Also the power of friendship was strong with BlueWaffles.

Alright i'll go if you are willing to take me. How much is gas/venue?

Unless someone that's decent wants to go instead i'm just a placeholder

 

[Sinz]

Alright i'll go if you are willing to take me. How much is gas/venue?

Unless someone that's decent wants to go instead i'm just a placeholder

I'm estimating about 25$ a person for gas.

http://smashboards.com/threads/nov-15-2014-gem-state-rumble-boise-id.369204/#post-17621929


$5 - Venue fee
$10 - Singles events
$10 - Doubles events ($5 per person)

So I'd say if you can bring 70$ to cover gas food and tourney you should be good.

 

[Reptilephantom]

Alright count me in unless someone else wants the spot

 

[Sinz]

Big thing you need to be able to get to logan on friday.