UpB recovery + wall jump?

[ilikepielol]

At about 1:50 in this video the C.F. appears to do his upB recovery and does a wall kick to get even more distance, and then another upB recovery, although I cant tell if he is hit by the ganondorf so he can do the kick or not, anyone else have any experience with this?

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWKM9Dk1aXU

 

[Che_Lab]

yes the ganon hit him, he edgeteched, which allowed him to recover. (different from a walljump)

 

[Rage.]

He teched against the wall to live

 

[Hax]

smash runs 60 fps. when you're recovering, if you hug the wall and hit L/R you will have 20 frames to tech (1/3 of a second). if you time it incorrectly you wont be able to tech for your next 40 frames (2/3 of a second). you can either walltech or walljumptech, wallteching is hitting L/R while holding towards the stage which wont make you bounce off the stage, while wj-teching hitting L/R while holding any direction towards the stage other than DIRECTLY towards the stage (for example, northeast). aerial techs don't lag you so you can use moves right after them, such as up-b.

 

[WayChuDat]

smash runs 60 fps. when you're recovering, if you hug the wall and hit L/R you will have 20 frames to tech (1/3 of a second). if you time it incorrectly you wont be able to tech for your next 40 frames (2/3 of a second). you can either walltech or walljumptech, wallteching is hitting L/R while holding towards the stage which wont make you bounce off the stage, while wj-teching hitting L/R while holding any direction towards the stage other than DIRECTLY towards the stage (for example, northeast). aerial techs don't lag you so you can use moves right after them, such as up-b.

uh. i only do the wall jump tech when i'm holding directly towards the stage. otherwise its just a tech

 

[Venom NY]

he teched and held up....CLOSE THREAD PLZ

 

[Hax]

..?

you tech by hitting L/R while holding towards the stage; you wjtech by hitting L/R while holding upwards and towards the stage.

 

[JFizzle]

WTF? You don't have to hold in any direction to tech, just press L/R during the allowed frames. You CAN hold a direction other than Up, say, if you know how to wall-jump tech and always miss the timing for the regular tech and it helps you get the tech. But if you can't tech all together, don't complicate your life.

Also, wall-jump tech is done by just pressing up while teching, nothing more. You can hold in diagonal up to help you recover a bit if it helps you sleep at night. Go to training mode and set mines at the edge of the stage and try teching them.

 

[Hax]

holding diagonal-up is much better because it provides correct DI as well, which helps a lot if you miss the tech.

i like to go to falco BtT and practice teching there. mines are ridiculously hard to tech for whatever reason; moves people use to edgeguard aren't nearly as hard to tech as mines are; not sure why though.

 

[JFizzle]

Well, that depends on how fast the character edgeguards you. Say you recover against a Falco's Dair. If it hits you right when you come up to the stage level, it's the same timing as the mines. This is how I learned to edgetech, and I've never missed a tech since then. If it hits you after you pass the stage, the timing is different. Once you can tech mines, you can know exactly when to tech different attacks with different timings.

The thing with teching mines is that you have to press L/R early, unlike the BtT. Say you're hanging on the edge. Where Falcon's feet are, that is the spot where you should press L/R when you recover. Once you get the timing, you'll feel good about it. I've taught all my friends how to tech, so trust me, it works.

 

[peachori]

while its true that you dont have to hold any direction to tech, it is useful to SDI into the wall to guarantee the tech. see doraki's guide http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=60218

 

[monty06]

peachori is right it does help alot more