Up Smash

[ThatGuy]

It's the most broken move ever. Kills at just over 100% without degeneration on most characters. The secret to it is hitting behind his head. It has such an insane hitbox that it's a lot more beneficial to face away from the person to attack them. Works great with Bair poking. Try facing away and charging it, a lot of people will get fooled.

Discuss.

 

[BoTastic!]

It's the most broken move ever. Kills at just over 100% without degeneration on most characters. The secret to it is hitting behind his head. It has such an insane hitbox that it's a lot more beneficial to face away from the person to attack them. Works great with Bair poking. Try facing away and charging it, a lot of people will get fooled.

Discuss.

yes i love Usmash! Someone recognizes its potential. Combining it with Reverse Hyphen smash even lengthen's the use of it.

 

[hippiedude92]

Agreed with this thread but I don't agree how it's broken. It has some decent anti air range tho

 

[Blackbelt]

My favorite of Mario's smashes.

Good? Yes. Broken? No.

 

[Mario_ 101]

It can kill at high %'s and can be used to juggle with, but I don't use it that much. Ironically, I used it more than up tilt in melee. Now I use up tilt more in brawl.

 

[Matador]

Indeed, Usmash pwns somethin fierce. Usmash actually has a surprisingly high priority as well. This is one of those attacks that I have to force myself not to use so often to keep it at KO power when I need it. It's so easy to land, it's insane.

 

[Mario is the greatest brawler]

It's the most broken move ever. Kills at just over 100% without degeneration on most characters. The secret to it is hitting behind his head. It has such an insane hitbox that it's a lot more beneficial to face away from the person to attack them. Works great with Bair poking. Try facing away and charging it, a lot of people will get fooled.

Discuss.

i dont no if it kills just over 100%. its easy 2 land yes, but i usually have 2 get my enemy up 2 150% then use u smash even on light characters. mayb it has 2 b sweetspotted? if anybody can gimme some pointers id appreciate it.

 

[Matador]

undiminished and sweetspotted. Should kill under 150% without either on anyone under snake or boozer's weight class

 

[BoTastic!]

U guys should try reverse hyphen smashing with it. the back of his head has a decent hitbox

 

[A2ZOMG]

Mario's U-smash IMO is Mario's best undiminished kill move.

Also, while not as important for Mario, you can slide twice as far Dash attack canceling U-smashing as opposed to just Hyphen Smashing (well, Mario hardly slides at all Hyphen Smashing btw). Difficult to pull off, but I think that extra distance can be helpful.

 

[BoTastic!]

Mario's U-smash IMO is Mario's best undiminished kill move.

Also, while not as important for Mario, you can slide twice as far Dash attack canceling U-smashing as opposed to just Hyphen Smashing (well, Mario hardly slides at all Hyphen Smashing btw). Difficult to pull off, but I think that extra distance can be helpful.

didn't think it was possible =/

 

[nasir123]

yeah it is mario's best smash although don't be calling it broken because the move can be easily gimped

 

[L__]

@nasir123: Do you know what you're talking about?

@everyone: You all restated the same things over and over again. Please stop. Thank you.

 

[A2ZOMG]

didn't think it was possible =/

Dash-attack cancel U-smash is possible with all characters (although I have not been able to pull it off with Fox or MK). It's just not useful for all characters, which is lame IMO. You can even do this with G&W, but it stops his momentum completely. O_o

 

[Mario is the greatest brawler]

undiminished and sweetspotted. Should kill under 150% without either on anyone under snake or boozer's weight class

what do u mean undimished? does that mean tha 1st few times its stronger? and where does it have 2 b sweetspotted tha back, front or over his head? also do u no where i can find a list of tha weight classes in ssbb in order from lightest 2 heavyest or vice-versa?

 

[hippiedude92]

what do u mean undimished? does that mean tha 1st few times its stronger? and where does it have 2 b sweetspotted tha back, front or over his head? also do u no where i can find a list of tha weight classes in ssbb in order from lightest 2 heavyest or vice-versa?

He means that the move is fresh. No move decay is applied. If you keep using the same move over and over again, the damage and the knockback will be reduced or known as diminished I believe. I think the back of his head is the sweet spot where it applies most damage and knockback.

Edit: Found the weight list hope it's right one.

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=162374

 

[Mario is the greatest brawler]

He means that the move is fresh. No move decay is applied. If you keep using the same move over and over again, the damage and the knockback will be reduced or known as diminished I believe. I think the back of his head is the sweet spot where it applies most damage and knockback.

Edit: Found the weight list hope it's right one.

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=162374

thanx 4 tha dimished part but about tha sweetpot u think u dont no right? i want 2 hear it from somebody who knows. thanx 4 tha weight classes 2.

 

[ThatGuy]

The back of his head hurts so much more.

 

[Mario is the greatest brawler]

The back of his head hurts so much more.

u mean when someone is behind him? and do u no or u think?

 

[ThatGuy]

I don't own Brawl, so I can't test that for you. Can you?

It's better because it hits more often with ridiculously deceptive range.

 

[Ranjiz]

I've played several games this morning and I actually realized the difference between hitting with UP smash in front and in back. Accidentally, i hit zero samus with the back of up smash and boy did I notice a huge hit spot and it hit two times!

 

[hippiedude92]

I thinks its somewhere his top of his skull and maybe forehead. Dunno just my 2 cents.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Last time I tested, Mario's U-smash did not seem to have a sweetspot from what I saw.

 

[BoTastic!]

Reverse Usmash>Usmash

more range and bigger hitbox. It also hits the oponent faster than a normal Usmash.

 

[Takeshi245]

Reverse Usmash>Usmash

more range and bigger hitbox. It also hits the oponent faster than a normal Usmash.

It'll be great to use against you tomorrow for our Mario dittos. Prepare for your most humiliating defeat!

 

[Mario is the greatest brawler]

It'll be great to use against you tomorrow for our Mario dittos. Prepare for your most humiliating defeat!

i cant wait 2 see that!

 

[BoTastic!]

It'll be great to use against you tomorrow for our Mario dittos. Prepare for your most humiliating defeat!

HaHa. We'll just have to see about that now won't we, Tak?

 

[hippiedude92]

Reverse Usmash>Usmash

more range and bigger hitbox. It also hits the oponent faster than a normal Usmash.

So you can do a reverse DAC with that? or hyphen smash reverse or whatever. Video for difference in range and hitbox pl0x.

 

[BoTastic!]

So you can do a reverse DAC with that? or hyphen smash reverse or whatever. Video for difference in range and hitbox pl0x.

ill have a video for that soon

 

[hippiedude92]

Btw, does this apply to Luigi any way? They both have the same smash. Or is his hitbox smaller or bigger?

 

[BoTastic!]

Btw, does this apply to Luigi any way? They both have the same smash. Or is his hitbox smaller or bigger?

umm i really don't know becaus don't use Luigi