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Underrated recovery?
- Thread starter Matador
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Silent Wolf
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Mario's recovery is very, very bad.
theONEjanitor
Smash Champion
his up b travels a shorter combined horizontal and vertical distance than nearly every character's Up-B...the cape helps only slightly
NES n00b
Smash Master
It is not really the distance that makes it better than average (my opinion that it is but whatever). It is the fireballs along with the upb that makes it hard to edgeguard (compared to others). That is the true beauty of the recovery.
The distance is not that bad either, just nothing to brag about. XD
The distance is not that bad either, just nothing to brag about. XD
I hate Mario's recovery. I have to try so hard just to get close to the edge. With other characters, you usually just push one button, and you're there.
With Mario, it's Over+B, Over+B, B to stun them, Over+B, Down+B+B+B+B+B+B, Up+B.
With Mario, it's Over+B, Over+B, B to stun them, Over+B, Down+B+B+B+B+B+B, Up+B.
Um...no? He's got moderate horizontal and vertical recovery because of his DIable up-B. Not like G&W who only goes up or DK who can only go horizontal. And yea, his fireballs protect him from edgeguarding.
Tujex
Smash Ace
Thing about Mario's Recovery is it actually requires you to try...and take time to practice and master it. His recovery is okay, but some people underrate it because it requires so much to simply get back to the stage edge.
Winston
Smash Master
Watch Green Mario's matches and you'll see he has *some* point. It's not bad to the point that every time you leave the stage you die. It's significantly better than Doc's at least.
FaceFaceMcFace
Smash Ace
Good to see you post here again Matador. Weee.
I agree that his recovery is underrated, not by too much though. It is still pretty easy to keep him off the stage compared to many other characters but his fancy doodads and whatnot give him enough oomph to get back more often than some might expect.
I agree that his recovery is underrated, not by too much though. It is still pretty easy to keep him off the stage compared to many other characters but his fancy doodads and whatnot give him enough oomph to get back more often than some might expect.
Silent Wolf
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If someone is trying, and knows how to edge guard Mario, ask Eggz, there's no hope vs a lot of characters.
Fireballs are easily avoided. There's always a way around them and onto the ledge, whether it be WDing off, FFing past the ledge and bairing, or whatever. Not a good recovery. Still not as bad as Sheik's though.
Fireballs are easily avoided. There's always a way around them and onto the ledge, whether it be WDing off, FFing past the ledge and bairing, or whatever. Not a good recovery. Still not as bad as Sheik's though.
Eggz
Smash Hero
Silent Wolf >>>> Mario's recovery.
YangKang
Smash Apprentice
When Mario gets knocked off very hard he needs to use all his "tools" just to get to the edge most of the times you will get edgeguarded because you got JUST the range to get to the edge and if someone edge hoges ure lost.
PikachuSSBM
Smash Journeyman
its alright, does me fine.
I agree, I just didn't understand why people say his recovery is among the worst when it isn't. It's about average if you know how to use it correctly and utilize your fireballs.
mario-man
Smash Lord
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However, this is true mostly. I do say Mario is underrated, but Silent Wolf has mastered the edgeguard vs all characters, including Mario.
Eggz
Smash Hero
Mainly just Mario. >_>
maelstrom218
Smash Lord
Mario's recovery is crap, once you know what to expect. Sure you can throw in a few capes, a down-b stall, and some fireballs, but you don't get the same kind of distance and/or variation as you would with say, Samus' bomb DI or Jiggs' jump+pound stalling. When you get down to it, his up-b is very easy to edgehog. His fireballs are dead easy to avoid--well timed ledgestalled hops or ledgedashes -> edgehogs work extremely well. And up-b stalling to get the edgeguarder off the edge leaves you very vulnerable.
There's really not much to Mario's recovery. Yes, it's better than Doc's, but it's still relatively easy to edgeguard compared to the rest of the cast out there.
There's really not much to Mario's recovery. Yes, it's better than Doc's, but it's still relatively easy to edgeguard compared to the rest of the cast out there.
XtacyfalcoX
Smash Journeyman
dont forget about his up-b walljump cape up-b again but thats just what i do