Turning Brawl into a New Game

[ThatGuyYouMightKnow]

I've had this idea ever since I had heard it's POSSIBLE to use new character models and animations in Brawl (It widened mah mind. ). Truly sorry if this type of thread isn't allowed.

I planned to make a preview of my opinion on what Brawl would be like if it were, oh say, Guilty Gear, Soul Calibur, Street Fighter, etc. This is POSSIBLE without more codes at the moment, but a few codes are needed to make this perfect.

Basically, using the Generalized Super Code, Gravity Mod, Melee Airdodge, Hitlag Mod, and Taunt to Enable Final Smash, you are able to produce the same engine Guilty Gear, Street Fighter, Soul Calibur, and most other fighting games run through. BUT, here is what's missing:

1) There is currently no Player Action Modifier that allows a string of inputs, for things such as "Special Combos", I.E. Guilty Gear.

2) The time between attacks using the Generalized Super Code must be maintained as to avoid "Spamming" attacks. The Generalized Super Code allows you to cancel any attack or special with another attack or special except for canceling attacks or specials with Jumps or Taunts. Maintaining that time will allow the enemy to actually stand a chance and get up. BUT, during the time a Special Combo is initiated, that time must be eliminated, then when it is done, maintained again.

3) The Player Action Modifier, mentioned in Number 1, currently is overriden by "Taunt to enable Final Smash". If both were enabled, you would be able to do the same taunt that Guilty Gear has, a "Destroyed Activator" for a Destroyed attack. (Destroyed attack = A one-hit-kill attack, ending the round and K.O.ing the enemy.) The aura would appear over the activator after the taunt is done, allowing you to do your "Final Smash Attack". What are Special Combos in Guilty Gear are "Smash"es in this version of Brawl. Once you use your destroyed attack, you cannot use Special Combos any longer.

4) There would have to be a code to enable barriers on the side of the screen. An alternative: Custom Stages.

5) Separate buttons would have to be changed. I.E. the D-Pad's taunts. One would be changed to a Destroyed Activator, the other two would be Special Combos. BUT, seeing as how easy it would be just to press one button, maybe there is a way to make input commands.

6) In the fighting games mentioned (Excluding Soul Calibur), there is a short time of invincibility and time freezing while a Special Combo or Destroyed Attack(GG)/SUPER(SF)/ULTRA(SF)'s animation is starting. That most likely can be done by using the closeups initiated during regular Final Smashes.

7) An intense amount of work to perfect moves between Special Combos would most likely have to be done.

I don't know whether anyone would pick up on this, support, or even give a ****e, but maybe in the future Brawl could be redone. Or am I overestimating how far hacking can be taken?

Or maybe I'm chasing sheeps.

Maybe.

Discuss?

 

[Sukai]

If Roy makes it, then I'm all good.

 

[cookieM0Nster]

goodluck. this won't happen.

 

[Arkaether]

Quite an interesting idea, but that's not how Brawl is meant to be played. If it's counteractive against the purpose of the game, I doubt anybody aside from a very very few select individuals will be interested.

So, if you want to, go ahead and play it however you want. I don't think you'll have many supporters, though.

 

[cookieM0Nster]

YOU CANNOT CHANGE DATA OF ANY GAME BY HACKING! YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE NEW CHARACTERS, MOVESETS, ETC.


so, this will not work.

 

[Ikenomon]

YOU CANNOT CHANGE DATA OF ANY GAME BY HACKING! YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE NEW CHARACTERS, MOVESETS, ETC.


so, this will not work.

Yea, I don't think this idea is possible only with hacking. Virtrually immpossible. Though it would be awesome if you could make a new game with hacks only.

 

[~tgm_Zeej]

YOU CANNOT CHANGE DATA OF ANY GAME BY HACKING! YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE NEW CHARACTERS, MOVESETS, ETC.


so, this will not work.

Texture hacks and custom soundtracks say "hi".


This likely COULD be possible. Just time consuming and lacking interest.

 

[Dark Sonic]

YOU CANNOT CHANGE DATA OF ANY GAME BY HACKING! YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE NEW CHARACTERS, MOVESETS, ETC.


so, this will not work.

Yes you can.

Change existing movesets using the framespeed and hitbox mod engines (and modify hitbox sizes and animations once able to do that) and link them to something (character color, time of day, whatever). Make a custom texture for that character or use a homemade model for that character (homemade models are not yet possible, but they are making some progress using trophy models like Mewtwo).

It is not possible to make well made characters right now because we lack the knowledge of how to make functioning custom models. But we can easily make new "clone style" movesets and link them to specific colors (which would also have textures), as well as change their physics when using that color. You could quite easily make a Roy texture for Marth and link a Roy moveset and physics to the same color as the texture. It's just time consuming and our coders have more important things on their plates at the moment.

 

[ThatGuyYouMightKnow]

YOU CANNOT CHANGE DATA OF ANY GAME BY HACKING! YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE NEW CHARACTERS, MOVESETS, ETC.


so, this will not work.

=_=

I never said it needed any of that, now did I? =____='

Anyway, yes, I understand how this may not be in their best interest, but since it's very possible, it's something to think about.

EDIT: "Changing" Brawl into a New Game isn't exactly what I meant. You wouldn't be DESTROYING Brawl; Actually, you're barely doing any major changes.

 

[Arkaether]

You're destroying Brawl. The point of Brawl is not a standard stamina 2d arena fighter like GG or SF. Considering that the SSB franchise is based completely on a new and innovative idea which is completely different from GG or SF, and you're aiming to remove that one specific unique trait, you're destroying the purpose of the game.

 

[Deleted member]

Geez, let him do whatever he wants. It's not like he'll be forcing us to play it, or anything.

 

[Sterowent]

Geez, let him do whatever he wants. It's not like he'll be forcing us to play it, or anything.

Emphasis.

Spoiler

10BOLDCAPS

 

[Arkaether]

I never said he couldn't. As I have previously said, he can go ahead and do whatever he wants to do. I'm just making sure he knows that he most likely will have little to no support from the community.

 

[ThatGuyYouMightKnow]

I never said he couldn't. As I have previously said, he can go ahead and do whatever he wants to do. I'm just making sure he knows that he most likely will have little to no support from the community.

This is known.

PEOPLE, BRAWL WOULD BARELY BE CHANGED! It's almost like Brawl in fact!

I can't explain over Wiinet, but think of Melee with Command operated combos and barriers, it's not that different.

Geez. =_= I mean, hacking a game would be destroying it, if anything.