Tranquility - Game Over

[#HBC | Nabe]

What should I look for on a Kantrip reread, specifically?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

@ YOLOSWAG

Yeah, I really think that's the most likely team we're dealing with. All three slots are individually floating around between shady and scummy and the connections line up as well. No matter from which angle I try to look at our current situation, I always end up with that team being the most likely by far. I gotta ask you to hold up on voting right now though. Don't wanna see any votes thrown around before Nabe makes his position on Kantrip ample clear. He's been stalling on that far too long and I don't wanna wait on it much longer cuz it'll most likely affect my lynch choice for toDay as well - I'm undecided on whether soup or Kantrip is the better pick atm and a solid connection will help me make up my mind.

@ #HBC | Red Ryu

No massclaim toDay

So we can accidentally lynch someone who has something wortywhile?

Don't feed me Yolo garbage on this.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Rest about Nabe making a stance on Kantrip is legit though.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

What should I look for on a Kantrip reread, specifically?

I'm not playing this game for you. Read his posts and tell me what you think.

So we can accidentally lynch someone who has something wortywhile?

Don't feed me Yolo garbage on this.

The hell are you even talking about?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Why are you against a mass claim in lylo?

 

[YOLOSWAG]

please just shut the **** up about claims ruy. if someone has something of worth sharing theyll do so

@ #HBC | Nabe

reread or youre voting potato and we will see if scum alpha strikes in that situation (they wont) and im forcing this game between you two. youre reading me as town and even voted with me yesterday on shenani so you have zero reason to deny my plan. if you take issue with this say so but do it soon cuz theres no reason to drag this longer than need be

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Why are you against a mass claim in lylo?

Because I'm not ********? So far scum has only killed VTs so they obviously don't have a clue on where our remaining PRs could be hiding, in case any are left. Let them do their thing, if they had something worthwhile to share they would've done so by now.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Because I'm not ********? So far scum has only killed VTs so they obviously don't have a clue on where our remaining PRs could be hiding, in case any are left. Let them do their thing, if they had something worthwhile to share they would've done so by now.

They are dealing with Shen via role block so whatever they are doing can help clear some things up and give direction.

Plus it limits scum from going "jk bro I am a PR lynch this guy" I don't want scum to have wiggle room to pull some crap like that.

Mass claim is far better, we can trap scum and limit what they can do because they have been hitting VTs,

Mass claim is better.

 

[Kantrip]

Assuming shenan and Ruy are town we're left with

Potassium
YOLO
Gheb
soup
Nabe

and everyone will obviously exclude themselves.

I stand by the following:

YOLO =/= Gheb
soup =/= YOLO
soup =/= Gheb

I literally cannot make a scumteam that is feasible in my eyes with these players due to these disconnects. I tried looking back at why I concluded those connections couldn't exist and I still feel the same about them.

We need to stop giving shenan a pass now. He claimed a convenient roleblock and Laundry died, leaving him alive. I don't think it's possible that shenan is legit and Ruy is a godfather because that would mean scum has a godfather and a roleblocker in this incredibly simple setup. YOLO said it earlier, but it's possible that an Innocent Child was this setup's replacement for an investigative role. If we consider shenan as a possible scummer once more, I can build some teams that look feasible to me.

soup + shenan + Nabe
shenan + Nabe + Gheb
Nabe + YOLO + shenan

In other words, the team is shenan + Nabe + soup/Gheb/YOLO

Of the three possible teams, I think shenan + Nabe + YOLO is most likely. YOLO is the slot of those three that have bugged me the most. soup's recent play looks really bad but I can't put scum intent on it. On the contrary, it actually looks like he's trying but he's just really lost in this game. I do still dislike Gheb, but it mostly stems from his case on me which obviously means I could be letting the fact that he doesn't like me cloud my vision. It bothers me that both Gheb and YOLO are alive in LyLo which makes me feel like one of them has to be scum. The connection between YOLO and Nabe still bothers me, where YOLO held Nabe at arms-length a great portion of the game, disliking him and sometimes sitting a vote on him, but never making any push to get him lynched. Whenever another wagon arrived, YOLO hopped off Nabe to join that wagon. YOLO was also the only one at the time of shenan claiming to say "don't give him a pass" but I don't see him reconsidering on shenan now that it's LyLo. This doesn't line up for me. I think I've got the team here. I dislike them all individually and can see things connecting them.

I want to lynch shenan or Nabe.

 

[Shenanigenius]

kantrip you make no sense. you literally write half a paragraph explaining why yolo is scum only to want nabe. Dafuq

 

[Shenanigenius]

Like, if anything your giving YOLO half a pass

 

[Red_Antoine]

All apologies for literally not being here at all. I can back up Ruy's claim and I've just been incredibly busy, but I've finally got some time to spare today, so I'm going to catch up on the rest of what I've missed.

 

[Kantrip]

YOLO is the one I could still be wrong on. See the bolded line in that post. The YOLO paragraph is explaining why I think YOLO is the third member over soup and Gheb. He's still the least certain one.

 

[Kantrip]

shenan
Nabe

and one out YOLO, Gheb, OR soup

that's what I'm working with

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Kantrip, you're literally saying that everybody except Ryu is potentially part of the scumteam. You used a lot of words to say like ... nothing at all.

 

[Kantrip]

Kantrip, you're literally saying that everybody except Ryu is potentially part of the scumteam. You used a lot of words to say like ... nothing at all.

I have 2 players I feel confident in calling scum. The last is a revolving slot that could be a bunch of people, yes, but you're really twisting my words with this post.

That's part of my problem this game is that I can see cases be made for so many people being scum. The only way I have the team even slightly narrowed down is through disconnections between players that make me say that they can't be scum on the same team.

You want me to say all this in another way that would completely solve your problem?

Nabe and shenan are 100% scum. I don't know who the third is yet.

That is what I said in my post and it certainly isn't nothing.

 

[Kantrip]

(Although like I spent most of that post saying I am leaning towards YOLO as the third.)

Listing off an entire scumteam along with who I want to lynch isn't exactly saying nothing

 

[Kantrip]

I'm still baffled that you think me and soup faked the conversation we had and are scum together

 

[Shenanigenius]

All apologies for literally not being here at all. I can back up Ruy's claim and I've just been incredibly busy, but I've finally got some time to spare today, so I'm going to catch up on the rest of what I've missed.

wat

 

[Kantrip]

shenan if you had to make a 3-man team right now who would be on it?

 

[Shenanigenius]

Im still having trouble getting to how me and nabe relate.

 

[Kantrip]

Im still having trouble getting to how me and nabe relate.

PoE. It's not because you guys are connected, it's because you're individually scummy and there's no reason to disconnect you

Now answer my question

 

[Shenanigenius]

yolo / nabe and after that probably you. I cant remember my recent reads too well but my nabe suspicion hasnt abated from yesterday and yolo is still a huge mixed bag of wtf.

 

[Shenanigenius]

just by poe i have to like ryu, I'm feeling gheb over you and iirc i think me and dietz were okay with soup and myself. that just leaves you/nabe/yolo

 

[Kantrip]

So your scumteam is literally the same as mine except swapping out yourself for me... and you had a problem with my post?

 

[Shenanigenius]

I had a problem with the one where you want to lynch everyone but ryu

 

[Shenanigenius]

[qutoe="Kantrip] " In other words, the team is shenan + Nabe + soup/Gheb/YOLO " [/quote]

I think yolo implies nabe moreso though

 

[Kantrip]

That's why YOLO is the most likely to me.

How the hell did you get that I want to lynch everyone but ryu? Was it from the sentence where I said I want to lynch one of you or Nabe? That definitely sounds like everyone but Ruy...

 

[Shenanigenius]

fail quotes op. Anyway imma go out to eat / and my date but i'll be mobile and checking in.

 

[Kantrip]

I want everyone to try to come up with a 3-man team as well actually

 

[YOLOSWAG]

no. shut the **** up potato. ive already established how this day is going to go and your ****** musings wont be tolerated. youve **** on enough dayplay this game to really still being doing this ****ing bull****

we wait for nabe to follow up on what i said. thats it

 

[Kantrip]

I'm not going to let you talk me down. The thread has plenty of space for multiple things to happen at once and I think this is a question worth asking. I can't force you to answer but you can't swear at me until I leave either.

 

[Kantrip]

And unlike a mass-claim, asking this question isn't going to ruin anything or be a negative thing

 

[YOLOSWAG]

youre informing the team how to build the endgame most advantageous to them. youre pulling a ruy and handing scum how to best manipulate town on a silver platter

 

[YOLOSWAG]

also yur posts on this page are pretty poor as well. me and gheb are scum for being alive in lylo? um. does it not make ****ing sense when an inno child and a universal townread got killed instead? the only nkill that had any sort of effort into it was jerkus n1. im scum with shenani for not reconsidering in lylo...just what? i clearly hav a plan of attack with regards to lylo that im following. pursuing that instead of flounderings more beneficial to town now. its fine to think ****** are scum but these reasons are just so ****ing bad

 

[Kantrip]

No what bothers me is that you said not to give shenan a pass and now you're giving shenan a pass. Nothing about a lack of reconsideration, that would be fine if not for the fact you made sure it was in the rest of our heads that we shouldn't do something and now you're doing it. The way you have handled your Nabe read is also a big problem that you keep neglecting but I'm gonna wait to see how your current interaction with him goes

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

If someone was an investigative they kinda missed the boat to CC.

We know Kary didn't make this a mountainous set-up from the bodyguard modkill. Also that set-up is hugely scum favored.

So there are other PRa, Yoloswag post about give giving scum our prs on a platter would be right if it wasn't Lylo. The point if a mass claim is a last resort and we will do it.

 

[Kantrip]

Ruy what I'm saying is that I don't think there is another investigative.

I think it was Bodyguard + Innocent Child vs a scumteam of all Goons or a scumteam with maybe one really weak PR.

 

[YOLOSWAG]

please demonstrate how a town aligned player would properly "not give shenani a pass" in my position

im sick of yu tryna link ****** together so off the cuff. youve been doing that **** all game (you mentioned shenani bussing jtb at one point i believe) and just slap people together in any way thats convenient. at worst its scum lookin like theyre saying something of value and an unabashedly ****ty way to play at best. if i was nabes partner i wouldnt be trying to have him square off with you one on one in ****ing lylo on presumably bein on the verge of victory. feel free to throw wifom in my face for that but youre either failing to analyze and truly process **** or youre just polluting this thread with more spontaneous nonsense thats made everyone hate your slot the entire time

 

[Kantrip]

You see "making Nabe square off against me" and I see "giving Nabe an excuse to vote me." I don't see how this is squaring off in any way but like I said I'm down to wait and see how it plays out.

And yes I've been connecting people together all game but that's just how my mind pieces together scumreads. I try to link them together and make teams all the time.