Tournament Viability Ranking List

[Fortress | Sveet]

Not to be confused with the Character Ranking List, which basically shows how well each character is represented. This thread is weighs how frequent a character is used (CRL) by match-up.

The method is quite simple. For each character, I multiply the amount of CRL points by a value reflecting the match-up as displayed on New Match-up Chart. This should return a value representative of how good their match-ups are relative to frequently played characters.

For Strong Disadvantage (-3) match-ups, I multiply by -3
For Disadvantage (-2) match-ups, I multiply by -1
For Slight Disadvantage (-1) match-ups, I multiply by 0
For Even (0) match-ups, I multiply by 1
For Slight Advantage (+1) match-ups, I multiply by 2
For Advantage (+2) match-ups, I multiply by 3
For Strong Advantage (+3), I multiply by 5

Results:

S:
A: :shiek:
B:
C:
D:
F: :mewtwo: ichu:

Fox - 10528.1727
Falco - 8319.606285
Jigglypuff - 7413.61924
Marth - 6476.741401
:shiek:Sheik - 6337.965461
Ice Climbers - 4222.327133
Samus - 4161.160743
Peach - 2845.562223
Dr. Mario - 1369.141083
Captain Falcon - 342.417551
Ganondorf - 180.380693

Rest: Not counted (yet?...)

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Frequently Asked Questions:

Q:What is the purpose of the Tournament Viability Ranking List?

A:The Tournament Viability Ranking is how well a character should do in tournament by weighing the character's match-ups by that character's popularity. That means the higher the character's number, the more likely it is to have an even or favorable match-up amongst the top 8 of a tournament.


Q:Is this a permanent result? When will you be updating next?

A:I will be updating this in the future, most likely in conjunction with updates to the CRL.


Q:Why did you choose the modifier values you did?

A:My first decision was to make an even match-up equal to a modifier of 1. Next I decided that the modifiers should scale as a strong match-up is basically a guaranteed win.


Q:Would the results be different if the modifier values were different?

A:The numbers would change, but the ranking should stay the same. The way I have it allows the important characters to have positive values.

 

[TheGoat]

Is F just a jumble, or does it indicate that bowser is doing the very worst?

 

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[V3ctorMan]

No worries.. here.. but is Yoshi like.. G tier.. since he's not in the OP.. <3

^^ jus a question.. no complaining from me.. im jus askin ^^ <3 you

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Is F just a jumble, or does it indicate that bowser is doing the very worst?

Yes it is just a jumble for now, as none of their numbers have been calculated. Its quite a pain in the *** to do them by hand, so I'll probably end up coding a solution...

This seems like a great idea. I like it. This is a more accurate "tier list" imo.

I notice Ness, Yoshi and Pichu are so useless they don't need mentioning.

No worries.. here.. but is Yoshi like.. G tier.. since he's not in the OP.. <3

^^ jus a question.. no complaining from me.. im jus askin ^^ <3 you

My mistake, they are there now. Good catch :D

 

[RockCrock]

I'm a little hazy about how to interpret this data...

On the CRL, Falco has a score of 1121. Here, he has a score of 8320. Should I interpret that to mean that he is used very frequently, and that he also very frequently has the advantage (on average) in a given match-up? And that Puff maybe be used slightly more frequently than Falco, 1146, but, on average, doesn't preform as well according to the match-up chart.

So, in essence, this statistic represents... the likelyhood of preforming well in tourmament with a character versus the character's probability of preforming well based on match-ups. Could that be right?


AKA If you don't get top 8 playing Fox you are statistically BAD!!

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

I would say yes to the first paragraph.

For the second paragraph, I would say that this ranks how well a character should do in tournament by weighing the character's match-ups by that character's popularity.

edit- added this question to the FAQ

 

[Roneblaster]

soooo, what you're saying is that falcon sucks?

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

TBH I think a lot of values are skewed because the match-up chart isn't correct. I dont think spacies have +2 advantage over falcon (too much exaggeration) which cost falcon ~3k points on this list. Hopefully that will be sorted out eventually, and with future updates itll even itself out.

 

[Roneblaster]

you couldn't have just said yes?

you gets no love from me now, Joe.