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[#HBC | ѕoup]

I feel like I'm just getting more and more angry about stupid things, but really it does matter. Perhaps I have to waste my time explaining myself so much so I feel better, or perhaps I don't want to come off the wrong way. The discussion is about it is completely moot.

Gheb, do me a favor and tell me why the reasoning is solid and why you agree instead of sheeping RadFic, even when it's completely baseless. How was my post about inactives contentless and not pressuring? The goal wasn't for pressure in the first place and the content was all there. I felt the need to address something I see as a huge issue and something I could get specific reads out of. I'm not playing 'woe is me' card I'm stating my opinion in an objective fashion.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I just finished up a game with you. Mass Effect.

The other head, I don't think I've played with.



Let's not jump to conclusions too fast. While I don't fancy inactivity either, we need to give everyone a good look before we just lynch off of inactivity.



I believe Ryker has gotten a rule associated with never trusting him. I suggest you make some effort into looking at his intentions before just sheeping him.



Can you spell this out for me? I thought a lack of backbone was something to be worried about. Why pathetic town over anything else?

RadFic, I understand your confidence in this Soup read. Would you be willing to lynch him right now?

Why did you comment on half of the things you posted here, did you really have an issue with an RVS vote on Jeoy

really

 

[Inglorious Retards]

Gheb, do me a favor and tell me why the reasoning is solid and why you agree instead of sheeping RadFic, even when it's completely baseless. How was my post about inactives contentless and not pressuring? The goal wasn't for pressure in the first place and the content was all there. I felt the need to address something I see as a huge issue and something I could get specific reads out of. I'm not playing 'woe is me' card I'm stating my opinion in an objective fashion.

If I were sheeping him I'd say "yeah, I agree with RadFic Vote: soup". But that's not what I'm doing. I'm genuinely bothered by how you reacted to his initail provokations considering you couldn't have known whether he was actually serious or not - only later he actually confirmed that was serious. That has nothing to do with what RadFic is voting you for - he could've had my support though had he decided to actually cooperate but that doesn't seem to be the case. Right now I'm back to null on either of you, mainly because RadFic's push really looks like him being just his dumb Swiss-self.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I stated that I felt he was not being serious with his claims, even to the point where I personally called him out. The main thing I wanted out of RadFic was an interaction of sorts, but all attempts to pursue this have come off completely short because he knows he doesn't have to. I don't like his reasoning on me but it's not specific enough to where I'd end the day and call RadFic scum, and I even told him it's feigned. It's going to hurt me saying this but I just want the guy to appeal to me and get something more beneficial going, I feel I work better with both heads based on how I interact with them, and how they respond to me. If it takes where I have to vote and literally claim 'hey I'm being serious quit ignoring me' then so be it.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I don't know why sheeping was included in his questions, but I'm just made an answer coming from my own thoughts. Day 1 started and not much is happening. So I'm cool with questions like that.

And what do you think of him right now? You didn't really do much in your post, but I really have to put a serious bias towards you.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Woo. Cool the heat and take the salt off.

Can you quote where you said where you didn't like him for certain reasons? I want to see this.

Read the thread, because your post tells me you haven't.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

It feels like a sin but I legitimately like Kevin right now. Don't be all HxH though. Also digging IR kinda, maybe just the JTB side for earlier posting.

Badwolf/BSP would be a pipedream but I have more faith in BSP than Badwolf, pressure apply to the latter however and it's sure to crack. Why'd you get off Badwolf Kevbro I might drop this charade and focus on bigger things because the fact of Badwolf asking me such a useless questions bothers me more than RadFic playing me like a fiddle.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

BSP you've been viewing for 20 minutes now don't let me down

 

[Dooms]

I agree with Soup pressure lol. His reaction to Rad Fic's normal play from both heads is weird lol.

actual post when I get home from school.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Everyone's a critic

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

Anywho, who do I want out of this game.....

Vote Badwolf It's nothing personal babe I'm just not that into you..

wait want to be my double vote?! You vote whoever I tell you and then we keep you around! We could be super heroes badwolf.

Saviors?
Gods?

Just lemme do me I'mma be in the cereal aisle going all ****ing buck wild until I find myself that perfect box of Count Chocula.

Hmm

Unvote

I'll let you think about that offer first.

I actually like this post. I'm not sheeping, but I do like this.

Yo BSP, since you're the first scum member we found do you want to talk about your other scummates?

Vote BSP

The above is serious, BSP is our first mafia member. All aboard CHOO CHOO

Um, what? Can you give some actual evidence or something please?

Kevin, how the hell does my reasoning on RadFic recall his meta. I'm not on them for how they play, I'm on them because even if that fact was clear, they should be more willing to understand when I want something out of them. I literally had to explain a common interaction to discern intention by spilling my guts all over the thread. I played along for the couple of posts, but then it got to the point of legitimate anger, while doing it on purpose.

You stated that RadFic isn't explictly town though, so do you see a problem in their play like I do? I want people to explain to me how they're just shrugging RadFic off, even Badwolf said he likes what he has posted, which honest to god isn't really much. I'm not going to rant about this and I'm trying really hard to keep a cool head. I would actually feel a lot better if Washed gave me some .gifs to alleviate my frustration.

Cool it dude. You're really not helping with the pissy-ness. It's just more rant that I get to sift through.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

You've told me to cool it twice but you do nothing about it. Now is not the time to play innocent bystander.

 

[BSP]

I'm on my phone.

Responses coming.

 

[BSP]

Vote Badwolf It's nothing personal babe I'm just not that into you.

You're going to call Soup out for fishing, and go nowhere with it. Why don't you keep pressing Soup? Is he scum for what you think is fishing?

Yo BSP, since you're the first scum member we found do you want to talk about your other scummates?

Vote BSP

The above is serious, BSP is our first mafia member. All aboard CHOO CHOO

I'm not going to continue this until you show me why I'm scum. You're being a bit eager, don't you think? At the time of your post, I believe I had a grand total of 2 posts. I'm all ears on this, let me know.

I won't answer questions from IR - I think the risk that I am answering Gheb is too high.

Answer my question.

BSP, in your 144 you pointed out everything except the important stuff. Comment on stuff that matters because the only stance in your posts so far that could potentially have any sort of value are brief and unexplained. Instead of telling us why you like RadFix more than soup you immediately hint at a soup lynch?

My "hint" comes from what RadFic already said:

I maintain my read is legitimate.

In order to verify I will allow us to wagon & lynch you. If I flake out or magically 'change my read' before you are lynched we can lynch me instead. I stake my life on the validity of my read.

I want to know if they're serious.

You have some explaining to do. How do you feel about RadFic, now that he refuses to answer questions that would actually benefit the same wagon he supports?

I admire the fact that RadFic doesn't mind putting out its stances and such, but it's bothering me that they seem so confident about it, yet refuse to answer things about the wagon, like you said.

It's like, "I'm confident in this read and I will stick to it till the end", but that's it. I could possibly like RadFic more if they took the time to show us why Soup is scum.

So RadFic, what's up? Why aren't you answering these questions?

Why did you comment on half of the things you posted here, did you really have an issue with an RVS vote on Jeoy

really

I commented on them because I wanted to, simple as that.

W.R.T. to your vote, I said that I would be cautious of the mindset you had, not the vote specifically.

 

[BSP]

I like you.



And now I don't.

Why didn't you like Killstic's posts right here?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

BSP you're still coming off as putting a lot of issue on things that aren't really an issue. I questioned why you commented on something and you merely responded 'Because I wanted to.' I really want a lot of things out of this game but they all have reason. What is your reason for it.

 

[Radical Fiction]

If I were sheeping him I'd say "yeah, I agree with RadFic Vote: soup". But that's not what I'm doing. I'm genuinely bothered by how you reacted to his initail provokations considering you couldn't have known whether he was actually serious or not - only later he actually confirmed that was serious. That has nothing to do with what RadFic is voting you for - he could've had my support though had he decided to actually cooperate but that doesn't seem to be the case. Right now I'm back to null on either of you, mainly because RadFic's push really looks like him being just his dumb Swiss-self.

You really do have no concept of this game, do you?

As an aside, you attempt to discredit me every game "zomg swiss u diskredit urserlf. Don't bother responding.

Regardless. Town.

What was it you wanted to know again?

It's going to hurt me saying this but I just want the guy to appeal to me and get something more beneficial going, I feel I work better with both heads based on how I interact with them, and how they respond to me. If it takes where I have to vote and literally claim 'hey I'm being serious quit ignoring me' then so be it.

We offered you an alliance. You rejected it. Now you say you want to work with us. Now that the pressure falls on you and others agree with our push on you. Now you say you want to work with us.

It feels like a sin but I legitimately like Kevin right now. Don't be all HxH though. Also digging IR kinda, maybe just the JTB side for earlier posting.

Badwolf/BSP would be a pipedream but I have more faith in BSP than Badwolf, pressure apply to the latter however and it's sure to crack. Why'd you get off Badwolf Kevbro I might drop this charade and focus on bigger things >>>>because the fact of Badwolf asking me such a useless questions bothers me more than RadFic playing me like a fiddle.<<<<

@ Ryker - Bolded. Lynch worthy or me going too far?

>>>quote<<< Soup explain this in more depth. I also read scum into the latter of him admitting I "played him like a fiddle" - deferring to my 'skill' or whatever you want to call it in order to placate my ego (which works, FYI - scum. Do it more).

Badwolf town.

@ BSP - Yes we are serious. You are OK with the plan?

I reserve the right to ignore any questions I deem useless or irrelevant. Since I know better than all of you I expect that will be the end of this discussion.

Why didn't you like Killstic's posts right here?

It was only one post that changed my mind - but regardless. It was me encouraging him to adopt a more accusatory/Swiss/commanding/Cello play style. Had he/If he does this it will allow me to play alongside and use his vote/reads if town, if he is scum since I will be so close he will slip up at some stage in the first few days - they all do.

 

[Radical Fiction]

BSP, walk me through your thoughts for this plan of mine. Discuss the pros and cons. Then reach a conclusion based upon what information you have. You will not be held to your answer as the game progresses, though we will act on your analysis and conclusion.

 

[BSP]

I just finished up a game with you. Mass Effect.

The other head, I don't think I've played with.

I answered this because it was asked. No real reason to leave it unanswered.

Let's not jump to conclusions too fast. While I don't fancy inactivity either, we need to give everyone a good look before we just lynch off of inactivity.

I felt the need to say this because jumping to conclusions is bad. Obviously, it's expected that Town will have a few mislynches as a buffer, but I don't think it's wise to just assume that inactive = scum; it very well could be, but we need to give the slot proper evaluation first.

I believe Ryker has gotten a rule associated with never trusting him. I suggest you make some effort into looking at his intentions before just sheeping him.

Why did I say this? I think mindless sheeping is bad, and that's what Vinyl (from my experience) is inclined to do. I'd rather he not. Why did I mention the never trust Ryker thing? If he's that good to where he has a rule about him, he'd be the last person I'd sheep.

Can you spell this out for me? I thought a lack of backbone was something to be worried about. Why pathetic town over anything else?

I want an answer to this. It will give me insight into RadFic's intentions.

RadFic, I understand your confidence in this Soup read. Would you be willing to lynch him right now?

For this, again, I want to see how serious they are about said read.

I question what I believe is important.

No no, soup wagon fruitless not enough players going to want to lynch a possibility.

Again, why are you going to tell Soup he's throwing up red flags for you if you're not going to do anything about it?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

We offered you an alliance. You rejected it. Now you say you want to work with us. Now that the pressure falls on you and others agree with our push on you. Now you say you want to work with us.

Working with you is not the same quota as trying to get something out of you. Working with you would imply that I'm willing. Just because I rejected your hand doesn't mean that door was completely closed however, I asked for a reason and you simply gave me an expected snide remark about it. I've always been open to 'work with you' and it's not just because of some ill pressure, but it does come to mind about cooling my head about it. You make this very difficult for me, stop being so damn difficult.

>>>quote<<< Soup explain this in more depth. I also read scum into the latter of him admitting I "played him like a fiddle" - deferring to my 'skill' or whatever you want to call it in order to placate my ego (which works, FYI - scum. Do it more).

Badwolf town.

It's odd because I was just going to ask you if you were willing to put aside differences to agree on Badwolf, but it seems that we can't even do that. Maybe we're not going to just get along this game. Either way, You're playing me like a fiddle because you can use your ego and status to get what you want. You don't have to bend over backwards to make a simple statement, you could say 'lynch X' and the likability of that lynch happening is pretty damn high. I'm assuming that the posts made prior were Ryker? Why is he so glutton to ignore me this game? Is my attitude not telling to you enough, or do you want to fall back on the pretense that I'm just scum?

 

[Radical Fiction]

Analyse why you think my read on you is false.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Um BSP you need to cool the defenses because frankly I didn't ask for your explicit reason rather alluded to why it was relevant towards achieving a read on a person or discerning alignment. You don't have to go out of way to explain why you did something, it should be clear as to why you did it in the first place.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Working with you is not the same quota as trying to get something out of you. Working with you would imply that I'm willing. Just because I rejected your hand doesn't mean that door was completely closed however, I asked for a reason and you simply gave me an expected snide remark about it. I've always been open to 'work with you' and it's not just because of some ill pressure, but it does come to mind about cooling my head about it. You make this very difficult for me, stop being so damn difficult.

This also strikes me.

Why would you attempt to 'rebel' against me, as so many have before you - and then become so irate so quickly? You would have known the consequences.

It is the sort of action people are often cleared by - this coupled with the rage could read townie to many - surely? So few would challenge Swiss or Ryker openly in thread, never mind both of them. Perhaps you wanted to be psuedo cleared.

Submit, Obey, Survive.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Analyse why you think my read on you is false.

Because I don't see you gauging a true opinion behind my inactive plan and it almost came off as insulting. My main dislike started there and worsened when you ignored my advances, as repeated several times. I understand that some players don't read the same things differently, but it came off as shallow and only used as a means of pressure, at the least. This doesn't justify anything I tried to wrt this however and the need to make my point clearer became obvious when you shrugged me off so easily.

Are we at the same level now? The least we can do is fight like Gentleman.

 

[BSP]

@ BSP - Yes we are serious. You are OK with the plan?

BSP, walk me through your thoughts for this plan of mine. Discuss the pros and cons. Then reach a conclusion based upon what information you have. You will not be held to your answer as the game progresses, though we will act on your analysis and conclusion.

I'm not going to just join some wagon until I find or see some reasonable reasoning for why the slot could be scum.

Your plan is lynching Soup, correct? In that case, at the moment, I think you're jumping the gun. I'm going to take good at the interaction, but as of right now, I wouldn't support action.

More on that coming.

I reserve the right to ignore any questions I deem useless or irrelevant. Since I know better than all of you I expect that will be the end of this discussion.

Can I do this too?

Town is supposed to be a team, and one of the goals of that team is not lynching each other. If you're town, don't you think it's a bad idea to just ignore questions whenever you feel like if you don't want your own team to lynch you?

It was only one post that changed my mind - but regardless. It was me encouraging him to adopt a more accusatory/Swiss/commanding/Cello play style. Had he/If he does this it will allow me to play alongside and use his vote/reads if town, if he is scum since I will be so close he will slip up at some stage in the first few days - they all do.

Ok, so do you have any thoughts on the slot after seeing those two posts?

I'll get to that last question. Let me take a good, hard look at the interaction.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

This also strikes me.

Why would you attempt to 'rebel' against me, as so many have before you - and then become so irate so quickly? You would have known the consequences.

It is the sort of action people are often cleared by - this coupled with the rage could read townie to many - surely? So few would challenge Swiss or Ryker openly in thread, never mind both of them. Perhaps you wanted to be psuedo cleared.

Submit, Obey, Survive.

Because I wouldn't think you'd treat me like the blind sheep who beckon to your will. I would think at this point we would have an understanding, and even in my first post I made this clear. Your bravado and style isn't what sets me off, it's the fact you're using this as a means to ignore me.

 

[Radical Fiction]

You are saying, then, that you burst out in anger because I rate you as less of a player than you believe yourself to be?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

It was never about that, it was about not being able to hide behind your bravado to ignore me, I've proven myself well enough to understand where I rate myself, and it's not the issue at hand. You still play difficult, but please. You yourself should know me better.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Your plan is lynching Soup, correct? In that case, at the moment, I think you're jumping the gun. I'm going to take good at the interaction, but as of right now, I wouldn't support action.

Our plan is to lynch Soup with the guarantee of he is town we sacrifice myself, for I must be scum. My reads really are spectacularly accurate.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

@IR-how would radfic playing ball with you have affected your reads on him and soup, and why does his action he took move them both back to null?

@Radfic- Talk with me over soup. Tell me some of the things that have cought your eye, and I'll do the same afterwords.

 

[Radical Fiction]

It was never about that, it was about not being able to hide behind your bravado to ignore me, I've proven myself well enough to understand where I rate myself, and it's not the issue at hand. You still play difficult, but please. You yourself should know me better.

Well no matter now anyway.

Anyone you want lynched if you flip town?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

RadFic, my lynch isn't happening today. Get a better grasp of someone else because I'm not the kind to die so easily. Your read on Badwolf, elaborate on it.

 

[Radical Fiction]

@Radfic- Talk with me over soup. Tell me some of the things that have cought your eye, and I'll do the same afterwords.

I've clarified much in thread already. I've shown more in this game already than I usually do as many people here don't know to just follow me yet.

You should clarify.

 

[Radical Fiction]

RadFic, my lynch isn't happening today. Get a better grasp of someone else because I'm not the kind to die so easily. Your read on Badwolf, elaborate on it.

It's town.

What more do you want?

Explain why you won't be lynched toDay?

You say you won't be lynched not because people will trust you, that you will be read as town. But instead you say you won't be lynched simply because it is too difficult.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

It's town.

What more do you want?

Explain why you won't be lynched toDay?

You say you won't be lynched not because people will trust you, that you will be read as town. But instead you say you won't be lynched simply because it is too difficult.

How is it town. Badwolf's tells are in the genuineness of the content, and it falled short. Are you reading him as noobTown?

Because it's day one of a seven day deadline with a ton of players who haven't posted yet. Your claims don't scare me and it's almost sickening to see you approach this way, but not surprising.

I don't even understand your last post, it's almost like you're mocking me. I won't get lynched because I won't let it happen, there's no need to sugar-coat it with pretentious town claims.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

I've clarified much in thread already. I've shown more in this game already than I usually do as many people here don't know to just follow me yet.

You should clarify.

Soup originally got on your radar due to him "hiding" behind inactive pressure, correct? he then stated he didn't trust you enough to work with you yet, and he's been going off on you since.Why does scumsoup flip at you in this manner?

We can start there.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Why would you attempt to 'rebel' against me, as so many have before you - and then become so irate so quickly? You would have known the consequences.

It is the sort of action people are often cleared by - this coupled with the rage could read townie to many - surely? So few would challenge Swiss or Ryker openly in thread, never mind both of them. Perhaps you wanted to be psuedo cleared.

Submit, Obey, Survive.

Catch up, WATT.

 

[KevinM]

Dude lynch BSP come on gogogoo

Swiss shhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[KevinM]

Like Mafia are corner hiding and that doesn't work me and you are the ogs of that **** and BSP just had his camo run out. Shhhhhhhhhh

Ill talk more about this dumb conversation later but I'm just not feeling the whole lynching anyone but BSP plan

 

[Wots All This Then?]

Where do you look if soup flips town?Flips scum?