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[#HBC | ѕoup]

Sigh. I feel like arguing with Badwolf only makes matters worse. Badwolf, state your reads at least so I can get something productive out of this.

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

That's a damn bold interpretation of what happened, especially the second part.

Explain, because what I saw was Soup getting a lot of flack from RF, then BSP came in with a wall trying to cover for him.
But then again you know I'm a ****** so what the **** do I know?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Back your statements and show me where he did this.

 

[Inglorious Retards]

Do you actually think BSP's wall was an attempt to "cover" for soup? In what way?

 

[Inglorious Retards]

Gonna replace Badwolf with soup in my lynchpool, I think. Talking with JTB about it.

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

You're getting mad because I read scum from one of your posts, explained why & then voted accordingly...

I don't see this day phase lasting too long.

Quit ignoring me, you know damn well what I meant and have forced me into this state. There's no way your read is legitimate as there was no need for pressure seeing how it was made for everyone.

Everytime I try to discern your intentions you either log off or respond vaguely. I can't believe I'm already angry this early in the game.

I maintain my read is legitimate.

In order to verify I will allow us to wagon & lynch you. If I flake out or magically 'change my read' before you are lynched we can lynch me instead. I stake my life on the validity of my read.

You're going to call Soup out for fishing, and go nowhere with it. Why don't you keep pressing Soup? Is he scum for what you think is fishing?





I'm not going to continue this until you show me why I'm scum. You're being a bit eager, don't you think? At the time of your post, I believe I had a grand total of 2 posts. I'm all ears on this, let me know.



Answer my question.



My "hint" comes from what RadFic already said:



I want to know if they're serious.




I admire the fact that RadFic doesn't mind putting out its stances and such, but it's bothering me that they seem so confident about it, yet refuse to answer things about the wagon, like you said.

It's like, "I'm confident in this read and I will stick to it till the end", but that's it. I could possibly like RadFic more if they took the time to show us why Soup is scum.

So RadFic, what's up? Why aren't you answering these questions?



I commented on them because I wanted to, simple as that.

W.R.T. to your vote, I said that I would be cautious of the mindset you had, not the vote specifically.

I answered this because it was asked. No real reason to leave it unanswered.



I felt the need to say this because jumping to conclusions is bad. Obviously, it's expected that Town will have a few mislynches as a buffer, but I don't think it's wise to just assume that inactive = scum; it very well could be, but we need to give the slot proper evaluation first.



Why did I say this? I think mindless sheeping is bad, and that's what Vinyl (from my experience) is inclined to do. I'd rather he not. Why did I mention the never trust Ryker thing? If he's that good to where he has a rule about him, he'd be the last person I'd sheep.



I want an answer to this. It will give me insight into RadFic's intentions.



For this, again, I want to see how serious they are about said read.

I question what I believe is important.



Again, why are you going to tell Soup he's throwing up red flags for you if you're not going to do anything about it?

I'm not going to just join some wagon until I find or see some reasonable reasoning for why the slot could be scum.

Your plan is lynching Soup, correct? In that case, at the moment, I think you're jumping the gun. I'm going to take good at the interaction, but as of right now, I wouldn't support action.

More on that coming.




Can I do this too?

Town is supposed to be a team, and one of the goals of that team is not lynching each other. If you're town, don't you think it's a bad idea to just ignore questions whenever you feel like if you don't want your own team to lynch you?



Ok, so do you have any thoughts on the slot after seeing those two posts?

I'll get to that last question. Let me take a good, hard look at the interaction.

There are the posts.

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

Basically what I'm pretty sure what happened:

Soup starts to go down, he sees this and tells others to not say anything, BSP ignores and tries to defend. RF sees that BSP is doing that (a little bit of a thin part here but whatever) and goes for him instead.

 

[Inglorious Retards]

That doesn't explain anything? At least, it doesn't show how BSP is supposedly covering for soup in any way. If anything, it could be interpreted as weak distancing.

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

Are you ****ing kidding me? Really, are you not reading the posts or are you intentionally just saying that I'm wrong? BSP clearly tried to throw some **** onto RF.

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

Um BSP you need to cool the defenses because frankly I didn't ask for your explicit reason rather alluded to why it was relevant towards achieving a read on a person or discerning alignment. You don't have to go out of way to explain why you did something, it should be clear as to why you did it in the first place.

THIS is weak distancing.

 

[Inglorious Retards]

Basically what I'm pretty sure what happened:

Soup starts to go down, he sees this and tells others to not say anything, BSP ignores and tries to defend. RF sees that BSP is doing that (a little bit of a thin part here but whatever) and goes for him instead.

1.) Soup was going down? He had one vote and one fos on him and most people have not agreed with RF over the course of the game.
2.) None of your quotes show or explain in what way BSP was trying to "defend".
3.) RF actually went for BSP pretty late [a lot later than Kevin / I did] and his reasoning was hardly there

You should get a better grasp on the early-game situation. I would've agreed had you argued that BSP was trying to create distance between himself and soup but that's not what you argue.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Unless you're implying the world's biggest chainsaw, I don't see it. How does him questioning RF relate to me in any way? If anything, the second quote here

I admire the fact that RadFic doesn't mind putting out its stances and such, but it's bothering me that they seem so confident about it, yet refuse to answer things about the wagon, like you said.

Is very contradicting of what BSP said later in the day about this. I recall him understanding RadFic's confidence by stating it, and that my push was warranted somehow. Thanks for pointing this out to me.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I'm gonna go find the quote.

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

**** it. I'm scum, kill me now.
This is just insane trying to get to you people.
I'm done.

 

[Inglorious Retards]

Are you ****ing kidding me? Really, are you not reading the posts or are you intentionally just saying that I'm wrong? BSP clearly tried to throw some **** onto RF.

Where was he throwing "****" onto RF? If anything, he was encouraging people to keep the pressure on soup up, which could be interpreted as distancing but not covering for someobody.

THIS is weak distancing.

Agreed.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

RadFic, I understand your confidence in this Soup read. Would you be willing to lynch him right now?

I found it. This is really damning.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

DId BSP ever explain why he did this in one of catch-up posts? I'm pretty sure you questioned him about it.

 

[Inglorious Retards]

**** it. I'm scum, kill me now.
This is just insane trying to get to you people.
I'm done.

Take a chill pill, son. You're not about to get lynched and only a few people actively support your lynch right now and I'm kind of against it right now anyway. Dunno what you're getting mad about.

 

[Inglorious Retards]

I found it. This is really damning.

No it's not wtf
Fos soup

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

**** it. I'm scum, kill me now.
This is just insane trying to get to you people.
I'm done.

lmao i dont know whether to take you seriously or not but it would make me feel a lot ****ing better if you were

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

No it's not wtf
Fos soup

man are you ****ing kidding me how does a player go from:

I admire the fact that RadFic doesn't mind putting out its stances and such, but it's bothering me that they seem so confident about it, yet refuse to answer things about the wagon, like you said.

to

RadFic, I understand your confidence in this Soup read. Would you be willing to lynch him right now?

?????

Unless I'm missing something here, and you're the guy who's scumreading him. How isn't this telling?

 

[Inglorious Retards]

Nvm, I misread that.

Though that makes it all the more questionable why you still push BW over BSP now.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

He's at L-2 and I just caught something worth looking at. I haven't read his walls either. BW literally claims scum. I know Zen has done it before in G3S #3 but it's just really poor sport. You commented about BW being 'stupid' rather than 'scum' like BSP. How do you lean now?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

BadWolf, stop lurking this thread and explain your outburst.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I don't think he actually claimed scum and is just frustrated with the situation. If he actually claims scum it's a different story but I'll wait for him to confirm whether he actually claimed or not. For what it's worth, it didn't even cross my mind that he could've been claiming for real.

No need to explain the "outburst", just tell us whether you actually claimed scum or not.

 

[Inglorious Retards]

I don't think he actually claimed scum and is just frustrated with the situation. If he actually claims scum it's a different story but I'll wait for him to confirm whether he actually claimed or not. For what it's worth, it didn't even cross my mind that he could've been claiming for real.

No need to explain the "outburst", just tell us whether you actually claimed scum or not.

Awww yeah!

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I recall situations where scum will claim scum or anything other mean of AtE. Considering it being Badwolf, I don't feel it's indicative either way, because he's an obviously emotional player.

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

No, I wasn't actually claiming.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

OK, so I've mostly been keeping up with this game as it has progressed, but I'm honestly not feeling the BSP wagon, or the soup hate.

Badwolf's play has been disgusting, to the point where he has openly admitted to a willingness to sheep power players, while simultaneously refusing to vote his supposed scumread because "it will make me look bad". I also distinctly remember him calling soup out for using bad grammar and run-on sentences... and his callout was a run-on sentence, which was marvelous. Other than the for the lols, it was a huge waste of time. The more BW posts, the more I feel ok with him going.

Gonna spend some time rereading to see if I can wrap my head around the BSP wagon. I understand why people dislike him, but I disagree that he couldn't possibly be town, and do what he did.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I maintain my read is legitimate.

In order to verify I will allow us to wagon & lynch you. If I flake out or magically 'change my read' before you are lynched we can lynch me instead. I stake my life on the validity of my read.

Where is the soup wagon?

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

Badwolf's play has been disgusting, to the point where he has openly admitted to a willingness to sheep power players, while simultaneously refusing to vote his supposed scumread because "it will make me look bad". I also distinctly remember him calling soup out for using bad grammar and run-on sentences... and his callout was a run-on sentence, which was marvelous. Other than the for the lols, it was a huge waste of time. The more BW posts, the more I feel ok with him going.

I hope you realize that I'm the only one voting Soup at this point, which negates the sheeping claim. And also Soup is my scum pick so there goes the not voting for my scum read.

 

[Vinylic.]

You guys except IR are being ********.

 

[Vinylic.]

The only people you should be voting is either gangsta or bsp.

V/LA tomorrow for school and vga awards.

And I'll leave this vote down. Vote: Gangsta

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I guess I should retract my statement about BW openly sheeping. Didn't find it anywhere. Was probably thinking about Vinyl. BW is really humping RF's leg tho.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I don't mind seeing BSP or Soup going as of right now. I didn't want to jump on the BSP waggon becasue I'm almost positive that someone would call me out on it because I haven't commented on it. However, I do see him as being scummy.

Do you really want me to put my reasoning out on a silver platter? I can do that but I really don't want to...

No... You're voting the guy you've been pointlessly arguing with for the past 3 pages, and you're intentionally avoiding an actual wagon on one of your scumpicks for the sole purpose of saying "But look I wasn't sheeping. Sheeping bad, but me good, see?"

Explain your reasoning for wanting soup, other than him not liking you. Keep it civil, please.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

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#541 looks good

maybe I should read up and see if that holds water

 

[Radical Fiction]

Where is the soup wagon?

I'm not sure if you are being serious or are genuinely obtuse.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

wrt to BSP saying "I understand your confidence in the soup read"

I honest to god interpretted that as "I understand that you are displaying immense confidence in your soup read. Would you be willing to lynch him, or are you blowing smoke for purposes of reading reactions?"
That's just how BSP operates, I'm really not seeing the big deal.

@IR. I'm serious. I thought we were lynching you if you stopped trying to lynch soup. You're on BSP now, right? What happened to soup?

 

[Inglorious Retards]

No, I wasn't actually claiming.

OK.

Does lynching soup take priority over lynching BSP toDay for you? If so, why?

@IR. I'm serious. I thought we were lynching you if you stopped trying to lynch soup. You're on BSP now, right? What happened to soup?

Uh, what?

 

[#HBC | Joker]

oh my bad, I meant RF, not IR. I keep getting you guys mixed up for some reason.

RF said he wouldn't stop until soup was lynched, and if he did stop, we could lynch him. I quoted it above.