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[#HBC | BadWolf]

Define your partner (which head dislikes RF?)

@BW - What WATT is trying to say is read the thread with an open mind to everyone. A slot like RF will make you follow him blindly if he is given the opportunity to do so. Think for yourself and arrive to your own conclusions.

I understand that and I am keeping an open mind. However, that wasn't what I was trying to say. What I was questioning was why were people saying that I am being stupid with a very risky read and then Soup comes in saying I've been careful. I understand that my read on RF isn't the most orthodox thing ever, but he seriously can't be calling me out for being careful. I've been anything but.

I have stated in multiple games that I have played in that I don't keep grudges and nothing I say inside of them is how I feel outside of them, do son't call my vote on you personal vendetta.



A funny internet meme totally answers my question. Thanks for participating. Let me know when you actually want to play mafia, because right now you're either being incredibly dense or you can't find a reason to have contempt against me. Why did you vote me? Previous RF reasoning? You realize he called that off and said he was milking it? You realize that your read on RF is baseless and you need to explain how you're townreading them so fervently? Do those things and then respond, don't waste my time with another post like this, and saying you skimmed.

Ok whatever.
1. It wasn't a question.
2. I'm not going to go off at you for calling me a noob. I could really care less.

Because this is a Swiss/Ryker hydra
I would hesitate to call them a strong town read until D3 at the earliest. Look at Ryker in HxH. Look at Swiss in Britches and Hose. Trusting them this early unless they are cleared by NA's is just naive of you tbqh

I'm alright with my read as of right now. I'm still very flexible with my reads.

 

[Gangstalicious]

Here's the full readlist.

1. BSP - Scum. I feel like he has deflected some of the things IR has posed to him and has before tried arguing not based on facts, but on emotions (eg. You don't know what's going on in my head). I also don't like how he jumped so soon on Soup solely because of RF's read.
2. Soup - Town lean. I like his incentive and I think the wagon that was attempted was unwarranted. He is trying to look for scum while at the same time put some ground on his actions.
3. Vinyl - Null. You have a presence but not much more.
4. Kary - Hasn't done ****.
5. BadWolf - Null. Feel like he's being picked on a little bit just due to lack of experience really playing. Although nothing strikes me as town from this slot, I see bigger fish to fry.
6. KevinM - I at first had the slightest town lean on you, but your latest post is making me think twice. Care to explain this KevMo?

As for the second part I'll let you know later in the game when we don't have a scum member to lynch.

7. (Orboknown/JDietz hydra) - Town. I like the intent and the will to search and hunt scum.
8. (Acrostic/Ganymede hydra) - Hasn't done ****.
9. Rajam - Hasn't done ****.
10. Inglorious ******* (Gheb_01/JTB hydra) - Originally I disliked his high horse attitude and refusing to answer questions, but once he finally answered and started playing the game I have liked this slot over time for the intent and pushes made. Town
11. Radical Fiction (Ryker/Swiss hydra) - I'm waiting for an answer to the question I gave. His answer is crucial to my read.
12. Make it Rain! (Xonar/WashedLaundry) - Null. He's had a presence and I think he's scum hunting. However he hasn't posted too much and I don't want to slap a town read on him carelessly.
13. Gangstalicious (J/Inferno) -
14. Joey - Hasn't done ****.

@RF - Why do you want to shoot Politoed? And answer my question about your soup read and if you were actually wanted to push him to a lynch.

 

[BSP]

Here's the full readlist.

1. BSP - Scum. I feel like he has deflected some of the things IR has posed to him and has before tried arguing not based on facts, but on emotions (eg. You don't know what's going on in my head).

IR not knowing what I'm thinking sounds like a fact to me. How is this an emotion?

What about IR grilling me for what they deem "massive fishing for town credit" while not questioning anyone else about it at all? Do you not see a tunnel here?

I also don't like how he jumped so soon on Soup solely because of RF's read.

This

Is

Incorrect

I don't if I should even bother anymore. I can't argue with people who are just going to keep making things up. At least get your reasoning straight.

 

[Inglorious Retards]

Gheb, when BSP flips scum make sure you remember how amazing I am at Mafia instead of entertaining the idea that I could bus him, I'm not dealing with that BS

Ehhhhhh, I pretty much insta-excluded the possibility that you could be bussing BSP and have literally not considered that fact. Like, had you not mentioned it I probably wouldn't even have considered it at all ... so I'll just pretend you didn't say it to make things easier.

 

[Inglorious Retards]

IDK? I was about to ask you about this but I remember you responding to me. At least elaborate on why you're not certain, because I feel some players on BSP are more telling than others. I'll disclose what I mean by this until you respond.

Well, do you expect me to already have a solid grasp on whom BSP's partners are? Only few people have had clear interactions with him that are not related to lynching him. Those interactions could be telling but I don't see the benefit from pointing them out right now as it'd just alert people over something I want them to stay ignorant about for now.

 

[Inglorious Retards]

For what it's worth, Gangsta's behavior towards BSP completely reeks of bussing and looks bad regardless of BSP's flip. As far as I can tell, his reasoning for joining the wagon is absolute bull and looks more like an excuse to sheep along rather than solid reasoning to lynch BSP.

Lynchpool for toDay:
BSP
Gangsta / Badwolf

Gonna talk with JTB about those and since RF is viewing I will leave notification that most posts are still done by Gheb so far.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Why MiR!?

I DON'T EVEN KNOW I NEED YOUR GUIDING LIGHTSSS

I thought I was meant to be shooting at scum.

Did I misunderstand your question?

 

[Radical Fiction]

Badwolf, looking into your townread on me.

Is it possible I'm just really good as scum and picked up on scumtells which may or may not be me bussing? The simple fact you call me town means you do not believe this is possible.

Please explain why - I was under the perhaps misguided impression myself and Ryker are two of the best, if not the two best scum players on dgames.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Gheb, your Gangsta read. Talk me more about this.

Which posts in particular do you take issue with? I may have skipped an important post from you.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Badwolf, I am insulted. I don't even feel the need to explain to you why that post was so bad, as it should be pretty ****ing evident. Try again and respond to what I asked of you.

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

Will respond to stuff later I'm nowhere near a computer and my phone doesn't do multi quotes

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I'm curious as to what people think of Kary/Rajam, more specifically Rajam. His vote on RF was pretty weird but we're implying that he has the gusto to create an issue as such. How are you reading him, RF? I think Kary was joking in that first post, or at least that's what I got out of it.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Rajam is straight null.

He's buddying Kev because he's afraid to go solo against me, regardless of what he says or tries to imply. It what he does that matters.

He is inept, null and used best by being Kev's double vote.

 

[Gangstalicious]

Neither of them have posted enough to get any good read from them hence why in my reads I wrote "hasn't done ****." Mind giving your opinions on them?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

A slight lean of dislike for Rajam but I was curious how RF was seeing it. I don't want him falling behind and playing catchup all game.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

ey kevin did you ever answer me about badwolf i remember asking you earlier about him just direct me if you did bro

 

[Inglorious Retards]

Ever since Walgreens Mafia I've started to accept the way Rajam does his catch-ups. From what I know of him, he completely ignores everything that's recent and reads through / comments on stuff starting at the beginning of Day 1, no matter how irrelevant or laughable it appears to comment on.

He's pretty slow this time though.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Is it indicative of alignment however?

 

[Inglorious Retards]

It's too early to make a call, I think. I just meant to say that there's a chance he won't be useless all game and that some of the input he makes may actually become useful.

Since I mentioned Walgreens Mafia: He seemed to lag behind almost all game and was close to getting lynched at one point but like near the end of Day 2 he suddenly pointed out a lot of connections and disconnections he concluded from his readthrough - some of those proved surprisingly accurate. Not indictaive of alignment I guess but I think you know as well as me that we've got much better lynches toDay.

Swiss, my 446 mainly refers to Gangsta's 442. Don't tell me you agree with his reasoning on BSPscum?

 

[KevinM]

Here's the full readlist.

1. BSP - Scum. I feel like he has deflected some of the things IR has posed to him and has before tried arguing not based on facts, but on emotions (eg. You don't know what's going on in my head). I also don't like how he jumped so soon on Soup solely because of RF's read.
2. Soup - Town lean. I like his incentive and I think the wagon that was attempted was unwarranted. He is trying to look for scum while at the same time put some ground on his actions.
3. Vinyl - Null. You have a presence but not much more.
4. Kary - Hasn't done ****.
5. BadWolf - Null. Feel like he's being picked on a little bit just due to lack of experience really playing. Although nothing strikes me as town from this slot, I see bigger fish to fry.
6. KevinM - I at first had the slightest town lean on you, but your latest post is making me think twice. Care to explain this KevMo?



7. (Orboknown/JDietz hydra) - Town. I like the intent and the will to search and hunt scum.
8. (Acrostic/Ganymede hydra) - Hasn't done ****.
9. Rajam - Hasn't done ****.
10. Inglorious ******* (Gheb_01/JTB hydra) - Originally I disliked his high horse attitude and refusing to answer questions, but once he finally answered and started playing the game I have liked this slot over time for the intent and pushes made. Town
11. Radical Fiction (Ryker/Swiss hydra) - I'm waiting for an answer to the question I gave. His answer is crucial to my read.
12. Make it Rain! (Xonar/WashedLaundry) - Null. He's had a presence and I think he's scum hunting. However he hasn't posted too much and I don't want to slap a town read on him carelessly.
13. Gangstalicious (J/Inferno) -
14. Joey - Hasn't done ****.

@RF - Why do you want to shoot Politoed? And answer my question about your soup read and if you were actually wanted to push him to a lynch.

You dumb, explain what?

That I would talk more about how I would go about reading Radfic after my number one scum lread is dead... Don't need much to explain there. I'd rather not water the day down with non-essential and IMO unhelpful discussion when I am currently trying to push something.

Don't be dumb, I see you bein dumb.

RF I was just confused as to how you came to the conclusion. I'll talk more about it later I guess. Don't be getting all uppity with me mister You still didn't go all the way into that question, there were more parts to it, you're holding my hand but in no way treating me like the apple of your eye T_T

 

[Radical Fiction]

I should Skype me.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

I think Kary was joking in that first post, or at least that's what I got out of it.

the **** wrong with you sister, you see my legitimate analysis and you don't take anything from it?

why would i be joking about radfic when it's a entirely real possibility? push on you to establish that they're 'pro-town' in trying to obtain reads, could very easily be fake given the manner in which they're trying to pull thread power and then leap to reads. Repeated referral to the manner in which they need to discuss their reads is unnecessary and smacks of stalling; could easily be them attempting to coast out the day as they see how the BSP waggon develops, safe in the knowledge that despite being a top tier poster they're not going to take the blame for that lynch. I mean how is this stuff not obvious/? you just look at their posts and sniff whether they seem legitimate, and the answer is, no, they seem a little forced, let's pile a little pressure on here and see what happens.

Or y'know, indulge ourselves by whining about how bad everyone else is at mafia, which seems to be the meta around here at the moment.

Oh and why didn't I appeal to anyone to join me in my crusade, i don't know, maybe something to do with having about 0% interest in this game so far becauase you're all running round in circles achieving very little. page me when you want some stone cold analysis and the swag that accompanies it. i'll be out back under the pretense of smoking a cigarette.

 

[Make it Rain!]

Im here and Id love to talk, but Im tired and can't really read at the moment cause some friends randomly decided to spend time with my all day under the pretense of birthday in 2 days.

From the top of my hat, I want Badwolf dead, with a side of BSP. WATT needs attention and RadFic taking the background atm disturbs me. Let me at least read this page to see what's up atm.

 

[Make it Rain!]

Soup continues to send me mixed signals, at least no straight out scum feel on him. Will probably question him later on some things.

IR is on the right track here. Though I have no idea why BSP over Badwolf.
KeviM is also a pretty towny guy just like IR.

Is Kary doing stuff again
sigh
sec let me read up on what he did so far

 

[Make it Rain!]

the **** wrong with you sister, you see my legitimate analysis and you don't take anything from it?

what post is this even referring to
what am I missiiiiiiiiiiiing

 

[Make it Rain!]

Vote: Badwolf

RadFic you need to talk up.
Kary needs to do more. Where's the priority at the moment and why is it there?
Soup, next post is for you.

 

[Make it Rain!]

actually Soup a lot of stuff has been sortof implication-type answered already, just tell me where your priority lies at the moment too and why. Also no idea where your Rajam dislike comes from. Elaborate?

 

[Gangstalicious]

You dumb, explain what?

That I would talk more about how I would go about reading Radfic after my number one scum lread is dead... Don't need much to explain there. I'd rather not water the day down with non-essential and IMO unhelpful discussion when I am currently trying to push something.

Don't be dumb, I see you bein dumb.

My bad KevMo. I completely misinterpretated your post. When you said "when we don't have a scum member to lynch" I thought you meant you would explain it when all scum were gone, not just BScumP.

 

[Gangstalicious]

RadFic you need to talk up.

Sure wish he'd answer the question I've asked him repeatedly.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

actually Soup a lot of stuff has been sortof implication-type answered already, just tell me where your priority lies at the moment too and why. Also no idea where your Rajam dislike comes from. Elaborate?

Badwolf over BSP, or at least until he gets his head out of his ***. I think BSP needs to stop worrying about responding however and start getting to the grit of things. I see him here but he's really only defending his hide. I would like some reads out of him and then I'll go from there.

I just think Rajam's vote on RadFic is displaced and odd considering the circumstances, but if IR says him playing behind isn't specifically telling (or at least not right now) then I agree with not worrying about it until later. I don't know what caused you to switch over to Badwolf however, and would like a reason when you're in better health.

 

[KevinM]

MiR answer my question brobrobro

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

Badwolf, looking into your townread on me.

Is it possible I'm just really good as scum and picked up on scumtells which may or may not be me bussing? The simple fact you call me town means you do not believe this is possible.

Please explain why - I was under the perhaps misguided impression myself and Ryker are two of the best, if not the two best scum players on dgames.

You're not the type to strike me as the bussing on D1 type. I know that Soup screwed up pretty badly, but I don't think that you would be the one to push him. If you were scum I'm pretty sure you would have told someone else to deal with it and ignored the situation. It's the most logical because of about 3 reasons.
1. You don't accidentally get a wagon on him because of your reputation.
2. You don't lose a scummate D1 without decent reason.
3. You can jump on him if someone asks you about it. (Granted this may look a little scummy but I have no doubt that you could have pulled it off with little to no hitch)

It's not logical to throw the combined weight of both you and Ryker against someone who messed up. It would be stupid.

Badwolf, I am insulted. I don't even feel the need to explain to you why that post was so bad, as it should be pretty ****ing evident. Try again and respond to what I asked of you.

Um, spell it out for me. I don't care how stupid you might think I am at this point. Your statements are as convoluted as Apple's file systems.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

pro-town credit isn't enough in reason 2 bw?
both heads reading up soon tonight

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

pro-town credit isn't enough in reason 2 bw?
both heads reading up soon tonight

No. It gives them another day to have to survive through and I know how hard that would be... I went through my first scum alone from D1 because of an accidental hammer by myself.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

You are legitimately ******** Badwolf the post you quoted in your response is the one I want answered give me a warning if you have to never before have I been frustrated with a person before

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Look at #441 if you can't understand numbers and then look at what you quoted then look at that paragraph do you see the things with the weird squiggly lines at the end of them those are questions and you need to answer them

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Here I'll even quote and bold them for you

[glow]Why did you vote me? Previous RF reasoning? You realize he called that off and said he was milking it? You realize that your read on RF is baseless and you need to explain how you're townreading them so fervently?[/glow]

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

You're not the type to strike me as the bussing on D1 type. I know that Soup screwed up pretty badly, but I don't think that you would be the one to push him. If you were scum I'm pretty sure you would have told someone else to deal with it and ignored the situation. It's the most logical because of about 3 reasons.
1. You don't accidentally get a wagon on him because of your reputation.
2. You don't lose a scummate D1 without decent reason.
3. You can jump on him if someone asks you about it. (Granted this may look a little scummy but I have no doubt that you could have pulled it off with little to no hitch)

It's not logical to throw the combined weight of both you and Ryker against someone who messed up. It would be stupid.

I didn't mess up, and you implying that I did is both wrong and ignorant. If this is your supposed reason to vote me then I am once again, insulted. If this your reason for RF being town, then you lack the the thinking skills to understand where he was milking it and it wasn't serious. Where is your claim for RF being town now? This is why it's ****ing baseless. Stop skimming and get a clue.

 

[Dooms]

Back and catching up. Making a proper response soonish. :3.

 

[Dooms]

Actually, I'm gonna unvote for now.

Unvote

Although there are still a few things I don't get with you o_o. What exactly hasn't BSP answered? His Soup read? I feel like he's answered everything else. He didn't avoid the current topic early game, and he definitely hasn't late game. He commented on less important things, yes, but how is that scummy? o_O'. It's not like he avoided the important stuff over all.

Consider my vote on BSP. The fact that he's attempting to deflect pressure from himself to his main attacker (IR) is... really scummy imo o_o. Makes the anger he's had from the start seem to be more desperate to get the pressure off of him instead of lost as to why he's being voted. Not actually gonna vote because L-2 and we're no where near deadline o_o.

Misunderstood MiR as expected. Feel better about them for now.

Vinyl is eh. Any thoughts on him? I can't really tell the difference between his town play and scum play. Both seem scummy to me lol.

Oddly enough, WATT still just isn't sticking out to me. I've read through the thread twice, and other players are just overpowering them to me. It's not really scummy, but I'll have to do an ISO or something to get an actual read on that. Total of 4 hours of sleep over the past two days = not doing that right now though.

I still can't tell if I can take Kevin seriously at this point. -_-. What are your reads on any three non-BSP players? Also, my read list was weird because I agree with MiR that Soup v RF is probably TvT, and BSP didn't look bad at the time o_O. I didn't (and still don't) see what was wrong with his initial responses that initially freaked everyone out.

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BSP, reads on each person on your wagon currently (including myself)?

Homosexual J hydra thing (:3c), where do you plan on going after BSP? How certain are you on WATT?

IR, questions above. Also, any other scum reads, scum-lean or otherwise?

RF/Kev, where do you plan on going after BSP?

WATT, since I keep on missing you, can you tell me how you feel about the current events in general? A few reads? Really sorry about this T_T.