Toon Link's Match-up Discussion #15: Peach

[TheJerm]

Also, Up air ***** peach. her air dodge sucks. And she still takes the hit when she dairs.

 

[Santi]

i like doing rising zairs for some reason

Falling zairs sometimes set you up for getting a peach fair to the face

 

[TheJerm]

You should bait those fairs, then wait for them to attack after the fair. Then grab. They never seem to learn from that lol.

 

[TLMSheikant]

^ Except Excel_zero has learned from that lol he jabs and then spotdodges before the grab. Ur idea is bad jerm lol. Its better to not be in a position to be faired in the first place. Luckily her fair is a bit telegraphed when u see her floating u know shes going for it. I just rising zair her while shes trying to fair like santi said. And about her dair...just avoid it all together she can punish everything u can do when dairing.

 

[TheJerm]

No no, it works on the general peach sheikant. If the attack they use after the fair is jab, then just nair our of sheild. If its any other attack, then you should have enough time to grab. Also, I punish her while using dair.. its possible. Sighh.. you guys never listen to me =[

But rising zair is something I havnt tried.. if a peach ever gives me trouble, i'll try and incorporate it.

 

[Santi]

Yea rising Zair is kinda weird.
It just seems to connect for me sometimes.
It protects me as I rise and where shes kinda floating at that height where a falling zair wont work as well.

 

[Chip.]

Peach is really easy to fight against for me. o.o

Its like almost impossible for praxis to touch me. =)

Jermsies knows whats upppp

 

[Artmastercorey]

whats a rising zair?

 

[VietGeek]

whats a rising zair?

Do zair as you rise to the apex of your shorthop.

 

[Hyro]

Jump and press Z immedialtey. Rising zair lol.

I think I've used rising zair veeery seldomly. I kinda just have to randomly feel it in a match. When I know my opponent is gonna rush in and attack me before I can get a move off, that will just throw them off.

But yeah matchup is 100-0 Peach.

EDIT: I'm confused. Jerm told me to roll out of dair. So did a lot of other people. But some people in this thread are saying never roll. Which is it???

Also, I remember Kosmos told me that our uair destroys Peach so when she's above you do that..??

 

[Artmastercorey]

for me, i honestly never roll anymore because she just chases you down. I just hold my shield until she's done with her kicks and upsmash

 

[TLMSheikant]

I just never let her get in a position to dair me. If u roll shell just read you. Knock her out of float before dair.

 

[Power of Slash]

We should definately ban Japes agaisnt Peach, and I'm like. serious when I say this.

When I upload my set vs. this one peach(MenoUnderwater) you'll see why if you don't already know.

Unless Peach already has a great cp stage against us excluding Japes. ban Japes.

Just sayin'.

other than that this matchup's not that bad. It is a bit annoying going in for the kill, but racking up damage on peach isn't really a troublesome task.

Anything I was going to say has already been said.

edit: just saw it in our counterpicks/ban thread so nvm.