Too much fire?

[Kereokacola]

I don't like to complain, but I must make a small observation that many of you probably haven't thought about, and it's not that big of a deal, but I'd like to bring it up anyway.

Fire, one of the four main elements. It wasn't used very often in the first two Smash Bros. games, Bowser could breathe it, and the Fire Flower gave you the ability to shed flames, but in Brawl, I think they may be overdoing the fire thing.

Bowser returns with his signature fire-breathing breath, and Charizard does the same exact thing. Superspicy Curry causes you to shoot out fireballs out of your mouth and give you fire-based attacks, and I'm certain the Fire Flower will return as well (Sakurai even makes mention of it.) We cannot forget about Yoshi's Final Smash where he flies around shooting fireballs/and or breathes it. We cannot forget about Mr. Mario, the man of fire, the man who can shoot fireballs from his fist, as well as cause a devastating Final Smash involving what? Oh yeah, fire. Am I leaving anything out?

I'm just saying, I hope they stop with the fire, too much of it is exactly what it is, too much.

 

[shadenexus18]

I don't like to complain, but I must make a small observation that many of you probably haven't thought about, and it's not that big of a deal, but I'd like to bring it up anyway.

Fire, one of the four main elements. It wasn't used very often in the first two Smash Bros. games, Bowser could breathe it, and the Fire Flower gave you the ability to shed flames, but in Brawl, I think they may be overdoing the fire thing.

Bowser returns with his signature fire-breathing breath, and Charizard does the same exact thing. Superspicy Curry causes you to shoot out fireballs out of your mouth and give you fire-based attacks, and I'm certain the Fire Flower will return as well (Sakurai even makes mention of it.) We cannot forget about Yoshi's Final Smash where he flies around shooting fireballs/and or breathe it. We cannot forget about Mr. Mario, the man of fire, the man who can shoot fireballs from his fist, as well as cause a devastating Final Smash involving what? Oh yeah, fire. Am I leaving anything out?

I'm just saying, I hope they stop with the fire, too much of it is exactly what it is, too much.

*thunderous applause* You sir or ma'am are absolutely correct! Sakurai has gotten out of hand with these "inside of the box" pyrotechnic ideas. Charizard, Bowser, and the Fire Flower have the same lame attack and effect. I mean, I'd be even a lttile grateful if they made certain fire type attacks different colors and effects, but it sadly seems that when designing Brawl, in this department, Sakurai uses only 8% of his brain.

Sheesh! They could have atleast give Charizard Dragon Rage or Dragonsbreath. Green and blue fire rule!

 

[Darkurai]

Yes, I do believe there is too much emphasis on fire.
I also think there's too much emphasis on actual attacks. I say make the whole game just trying to throw your opponents!</sarcasm>

 

[Bassoonist]

I was thinking the exact same thing.

I like water and ice so much more then fire. This is also why I don't want anymore electric Pokemon in the game. It's just kind of repetitious, especially for a series like Pokemon which could bring so many diverse types into the game.

Still we haven't seen Charizard's other moves, and I'm confident they'll be good and unique.

 

[Takeshi245]

This isn't worth a thread. So what if there's more fire attacks? At least not every attack is one for each character. Then there would be too much fire.

 

[Psychoace]

Eh doesn't matter Squirtles super effective.

 

[shadenexus18]

I was thinking the exact same thing.

I like water and ice so much more then fire. This is also why I don't want anymore electric Pokemon in the game. It's just kind of repetitious, especially for a series like Pokemon which could bring so many diverse types into the game.

Still we haven't seen Charizard's other moves, and I'm confident they'll be good and unique.

Ditto bro, ditto, but wouldn't be ok if pokemon like Mewtwo and Lucario (if they become confirmed) have an electric based attack or two? You know, different pokemon type yet an awesome load array of elemental moves.

And Seismic Toss (the one from the anime show) should be Charizard's Final Smash! Yea!

 

[SmashChu]

Didn't notice it. But, does it matter that much?

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

Impressive observing. Although I have to say, I don't think this is a big deal unless it makes playing the game drastically different.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[shadenexus18]

This isn't worth a thread. So what if there's more fire attacks? At least not every attack is one for each character. Then there would be too much fire.

Well on Melee, they did get kind of ridculous with fire fire FIRE! Lets see there was adding on the long laundry list.....

Fox's Fire Fox

Ganon's Moveset revolving around fire

Falcon's Fire Based Moveset

Kirby's Forward B Fire move

Jigglypuff's Secret Rest Fire Effect

Luigi's Super Jump Fire Punch

Game & Watch's A-Foward Smash


I could go on and on and on.....

 

[SenorPresidente]

Fire represents your burning spirit when you play thus fire should always be represented more.

 

[Takeshi245]

Well on Melee, they did get kind of ridculous with fire fire FIRE! Lets see there was adding on the long laundry list.....

Fox's Fire Fox

Ganon's Moveset revolving around fire

Falcon's Fire Based Moveset

Kirby's Forward B Fire move

Jigglypuff's Secret Rest Fire Effect

Luigi's Super Jump Fire Punch

Game & Watch's A-Foward Smash


I could go on and on and on.....

Kirby's Forward B move was his hammer. His dash attack was a fire-based moves. Anyways, fire isn't something to make a big deal out of for Brawl. That's what I'm saying.

 

[Kereokacola]

This isn't worth a thread. So what if there's more fire attacks? At least not every attack is one for each character. Then there would be too much fire.

I don't think you're worthy of a topic.

Anything capable of intelligent and relevant discussion is worthy of a topic. You might think that they have overused the fire element, but stay tuned. If more fire items and more fire attacks are presented, when will you say enough is enough? It's apparent that I already think it's enough.

 

[Psychoace]

Well on Melee, they did get kind of ridculous with fire fire FIRE! Lets see there was adding on the long laundry list.....

Fox's Fire Fox

Ganon's Moveset revolving around fire

Falcon's Fire Based Moveset

Kirby's Forward B Fire move

Jigglypuff's Secret Rest Fire Effect

Luigi's Super Jump Fire Punch

Game & Watch's A-Foward Smash


I could go on and on and on.....

Ness was the one with the fire for forward b.

 

[Bassoonist]

Kirby did have a fire move, though. I think it was his dash attack. It didn't work like the "flamethrower" moves, though, so it didn't bother me.

 

[oxyborb]

I like the fire!

 

[SenorPresidente]

We didn't start the fire

 

[Takeshi245]

I don't think you're worthy of a topic.

Anything capable of intelligent and relevant discussion is worthy of a topic. You might think that they have overused the fire element, but stay tuned. If more fire items and more fire attacks are presented, when will you say enough is enough? It's apparent that I already think it's enough.

If every move is based on fire, as I said before, then they did overdo the fire element. Good thing Sakurai isn't an idiot. If they do put in more fire attacks that many people won't care about, then fine.

 

[Aeramis]

Can't forget young link's fire arrows Pyromaniac Sakurai FTW!

 

[Exorcist]

Even though they're all fire I don't find it too bad to the point that someone would say they're all alike(I know the topic doesn't say this).

What is complainable is everyone's almost identical Nair from SSBM. That's complainable, but still, not really.

Doctor Mario: flying-karate-kick
Mario: flying-karate-kick
Luigi: flying-karate-kick
Yoshi: flying-karate-kick
Falco: flying-karate-kick
Fox: flying-karate-kick
Samus: flying-karate-kick
Link: flying-karate-kick
Young Link: flying-karate-kick
Jigglypuff: flying-karate-kick

But yet again, who cares? There's likely to be alot of similar looking moves all around any fighting game. But most of them, even though they look similar, knock back in different directions or do different things.

 

[Kereokacola]

I'd like them to implement more elements, rather than overdoing one. We have fire, water, lightning, but not enough air, earth, and what about poison? I'd love to see a poison feature that would increase your percentage little by little for a short period of time.

 

[Exorcist]

I'd like them to implement more elements, rather than overdoing one. We have fire, water, lightning, but not enough air, earth, and what about poison? I'd love to see a poison feature that would increase your percentage little by little for a short period of time.

<3
This is a little off topic but, I always loved the idea that if Captain Olimar would be playable his DownB would be to pluck a pikimin and throw them at his opponent. The pikimin would latch onto the opponent and start hitting them for 1-3dmg perhit for like a second or two. If you have pikimin attached to you you'd also be weighed down a bit.

Oh ****, better get back on topic.
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FIRE IS THE SUCK

 

[Kereokacola]

If I remember correctly, didn't the purple Pikmin in Pikmin 2 have a poisonous attack? I'd like to see that if Olimar is in Smash.

 

[Darkurai]

We didn't start the fire

It was always burnin'
Since the world's been turnin'.

 

[Takeshi245]

Fire is what landing an F-smash with Mario and KOing them with it awesome. I wouldn't mind if they did add more elements as you said, topic creator(Can't type in name because I didn't get a good glance to type it. Sorry.) What characters would fit for it.

 

[Psychoace]

I'd like them to implement more elements, rather than overdoing one. We have fire, water, lightning, but not enough air, earth, and what about poison? I'd love to see a poison feature that would increase your percentage little by little for a short period of time.

Lipstick. Though if we bring in all kinds of elements it's more pokemon than ssbb.

Wait a minute...lightning KNEE.

 

[Takeshi245]

Lipstick. Though if we bring in all kinds of elements it's more pokemon than ssbb.

You're right. It would be nice to add more elements, but not all of them. How would air work?

Edit: Pychoace, good point about the knee.

 

[shadenexus18]

Good thing Sakurai isn't an idiot.

He's not, but he most certainly isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. All I'm sayin is this guy isn't thinkin outside of the box in the least. Even with this topic alone, hint hint too much fire, he hasn't dazzled me with his pyrotechinic ideas.

 

[Psychoace]

You're right. It would be nice to add more elements, but not all of them. How would air work?

Edit: Pychoace, good point about the knee.

piss.................................................

 

[Psychoace]

You're right. It would be nice to add more elements, but not all of them. How would air work?

Edit: Pychoace, good point about the knee.

Gale boomerang perhaps.

 

[Takeshi245]

He's not, but he most certainly isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. All I'm sayin is this guy isn't thinkin outside of the box in the least. Even with this topic alone, hint hint too much fire, he hasn't dazzled me with his pyrotechinic ideas.

Fire's a nice touch. Come on, Shadenexus! You should know. Yeah, it wouldn't hurt the game if the game had more elements, but fire's still sweet. This is the first thread I've seen where people complain about too much fire. It didn't hurt game reviews or cause many people to complain. Just saying. Anyways, Psychoace brings up a point about the Gale Boomerang being another element.

 

[Psychoace]

Then you have the other two pokemon for pokemon trainer.

 

[Kereokacola]

You're right. It would be nice to add more elements, but not all of them. How would air work?

Edit: Pychoace, good point about the knee.

Wind, air, same family.

 

[shadenexus18]

Fire's a nice touch. Come on, Shadenexus! You should know. Yeah, it wouldn't hurt the game if the game had more elements, but fire's still sweet. This is the first thread I've seen where people complain about too much fire. It didn't hurt game reviews or cause many people to complain. Just saying. Anyways, Psychoace brings up a point about the Gale Boomerang being another element.

But ice is that much more sweeter than fire. It's two elements in one seeing how if you melt it, it becomes water. And I don't think it was fair that only the Ice Climbers (**** I hate that group so much) got to truly hone there ablities with the use of ice and no one else did.

What about Samus's Ice Beam hmm? Not a flamethrower, and ice beam!

What about instead of catching on fire from Luigi's uppercut that you get frozen solid instead?

Mewtwo can learn alot of TMs. Why not let him have an ice type attack or two?


Ice> Fire

 

[Kereokacola]

Luigi? Ice? I don't recall Luigi ever honing the ability of ice, but he did take on the ability of lightning based attacks in Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time (was it in Superstar Saga too?)

 

[SirroMinus1]

fire is FOR THE WIN I cant get enough of it

 

[Takeshi245]

Luigi's not going to have ice powers. Fire fits Mario and Luigi. That's what gives it the bing in his Up-B. Am I the only one that realizes our suggestions aren't going to mean much of anything since Sakurai likes fire?

 

[Psychoace]

If there's enough fire to melt the ice it evaporates.

 

[shadenexus18]

Luigi? Ice? I don't recall Luigi ever honing the ability of ice, but he did take on the ability of lightning based attacks in Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time (was it in Superstar Saga too?)

Well, in Smash 64, Fox had the move "Fire Fox" (and he still does). I don't ever recall him honing his skills with the use of fire, but wouldn't you know it he has that type of attack.

 

[A-Laon]

You can never have enough fire.