Too many made up enemies

[TrainerAbu]

and then there's all those guys they showed in that other update

All of it is cool, but... I'm worried there won't be enough Nintendo characters to fight.

Like in that screenshot... I wish they were fighting Waddle Dees and/or Goombas and/or Grim Reapers or something.

But instead they're continuing to fight these made-up-for-Brawl enemies, instead of enemies that come from the characters' history of games.

Ehh

 

[Exorcist]

Yea I hate originality.


*puts away his sarcasm*

They made Adventure mode to be a unique story of its own, with its own unique Boss and the rest. I see it as a good thing, but I see where you're coming from.

They used commonplace enemies in Melee though, and that ended up being not all too exiting.

 

[eodeth]

yea but this is subspace not adventure mode so waddle dees might be in same with all the other ones (it would be cool if kirby sucked up some of the enimies and he would change)
but its cool that they have showing hp

 

[Magnacor]

They will, most likely, have a lot of old nintendo enemies they probably just wanted us to know about all of the new ones. Would you really have been as interested if they just showed you a bunch of Koopa's and Goomba's? I know I wouldn't.

 

[specialsauce]

the new enimies are fresh and new its better than fighting polygons

 

[Exorcist]

yea but this is subspace not adventure mode so waddle dees might be in same with all the other ones (it would be cool if kirby sucked up some of the enimies and he would change)
but its cool that they have showing hp

<_<

On the Dojo site it even categorizes Subspace into "Adventure Mode".

And there's even this quote: "I will announce this right here, right now. In Adventure Mode: The Subspace Emissary, you can also play with two players simultaneously!"

SSE is Adventure Mode

 

[raphtmarqui]

I dunno, i actually prefer newer enemies.
However i can understand why ppl would want enemies from the established nintendo franchises. It would be cool if they had both.

 

[eodeth]

<_<

On the Dojo site it even categorizes Subspace into "Adventure Mode".

And there's even this quote: "I will announce this right here, right now. In Adventure Mode: The Subspace Emissary, you can also play with two players simultaneously!"

SSE is Adventure Mode

i no but there will probably be an extra mode mimicking the adventure mode in ssbm this is more like a story mode

 

[Jackal478]

They're obviously hiding the loads more enemies.

And I TOTALLY agree with Exorcist here.

 

[TrainerAbu]

the new enimies are fresh and new its better than fighting polygons

ya but this is a leet huge side scroller adventure like Kirby Superstar

I wish they took advantage of it and brought in leet enemies from all the different franchises as you travel to all kinds of worlds from different franchises. Instead of making up a whole new original thing of 99999 made-up enemies that'll only appear in Brawl. Oh wellz.

 

[Takeshi245]

Another whiner thread.

This nit-picking is a little obsessive, don't you think? Of course there are going to be made up enemies, but too much? I don't think so.

 

[Burninator]

There's nothing saying we won't get our old favorite enemies back. We've had screenshots featuring Hammer Bros. and Bullet Bills, I do not doubt that there are a slew of other enemies joining the Brawl. Seriously, we haven't seen it all yet. They just wanted to show off the new things first.

 

[Red Exodus]

Subspace isn't a tack-on one player mode, it has a story now so it would make sense to have enemies outside the normal Nintendo cannon fodder list, some of them sound interesting and might do more than most of the old enemies did which was basically wait for you to run into them.

Note: Sakurai never said those other enemies wouldn't be in.

 

[Al Calnos]

Pretty much what Burninator said... I'm sure we'll see everything from Koopas to Space Pirates to Dark Nuts to Genome Soldiers, in addition to all the new original enemies we're getting. Its all good.

 

[TrainerAbu]

Yeah there's bullet bills and hammer bros. and stuff

but with all the subspace army enemies and stuff, I'm just worried that 60% of all enemies will be those made-up subspace emo guys

I'd rather it be like 20-35% of the enemies being subspace guys, and the rest being you going to Kirby worlds and Mario worlds, fighting Waddle Dees and all kinds of enemies funly, instead of like 40 made up brawl subspace enemies

but yeah =3

 

[Jumpinjahosafa]

I wonder how many goombas i've killed in my lifetime..

Too many.

how many Primids have I killed in my lifetime?

I'm sick of killing goombas.

Also.. Original characters = original character behavior.. You have NO idea what to expect when you first fight them, and how fun is that?

Extremely.

I'm sick of the same old same old. New stuff FTW..

Go play melee if you wanna kill old baddies.

 

[Kirby knight]

and then there's all those guys they showed in that other update

All of it is cool, but... I'm worried there won't be enough Nintendo characters to fight.

Like in that screenshot... I wish they were fighting Waddle Dees and/or Goombas and/or Grim Reapers or something.

But instead they're continuing to fight these made-up-for-Brawl enemies, instead of enemies that come from the characters' history of games.

Ehh

Oh please stop whining. Sakurai has barely shown us the Subspace and or other game modes. If it's really that much of a problem for you don't play Brawl.

-Knight

 

[eodeth]

Oh please stop whining. Sakurai has barely shown us the Subspace and or other game modes. If it's really that much of a problem for you don't play Brawl.

-Knight

wow that was mean
but trainerabu (sp) he is right

 

[Burninator]

I wonder how many goombas i've killed in my lifetime..

Too many.

how many Primids have I killed in my lifetime?

I'm sick of killing goombas.

Also.. Original characters = original character behavior.. You have NO idea what to expect when you first fight them, and how fun is that?

Extremely.

I'm sick of the same old same old. New stuff FTW..

Go play melee if you wanna kill old baddies.

We have a winnar.

Though I agree that the nostalgia factor is a big deal when speaking of video game enemies (I was elated by the love Nintendo has shown the Hammer Bro lately), we all need something new once in a while, and Brawl will be bringing the completely new experience of the Subspace Emissary along with it.

EDIT: Also, while I have stomped many a Goomba, the Hammer Bros usually end up killing me...

 

[Red Exodus]

Yeah there's bullet bills and hammer bros. and stuff

but with all the subspace army enemies and stuff, I'm just worried that 60% of all enemies will be those made-up subspace emo guys

I'd rather it be like 20-35% of the enemies being subspace guys, and the rest being you going to Kirby worlds and Mario worlds, fighting Waddle Dees and all kinds of enemies funly, instead of like 40 made up brawl subspace enemies

but yeah =3

It's possible there are locations outside normal Nintendo worlds too, i.e. Subspace worlds, in which case it would be illogical to place extraterrestrial enemies there unless it had something to do with the plot.

 

[eodeth]

besides that is just 1 place it says that the "smash worlds"are being taken over (it means dream land, dk island, umm metriods place, yoshis island, the pokemon world; so u might even see pokemon enimies if were lucky then klaptraps etc.) wow i amaze myself ,joking i read it somewhere else

 

[I.T.P]

did all of you miss the fact that hammer bros is an AT?

 

[Burninator]

did all of you miss the fact that hammer bros is an AT?

Apparently he will also be featured as a subspace enemy. At least, that is what the screenshots imply.

 

[eodeth]

did all of you miss the fact that hammer bros is an AT?

pwn't lol but who was that to and whoever it was to yea ... he is

 

[Jumpinjahosafa]

It's possible there are locations outside normal Nintendo worlds too, i.e. Subspace worlds, in which case it would be illogical to place extraterrestrial enemies there unless it had something to do with the plot.

That would actually be kinda cool...

Fighting subspace mixed with classics..

though I'm soo sick of classics.

 

[eodeth]

That would actually be kinda cool...

Fighting subspace mixed with classics..

though I'm soo sick of classics.

wow he didnt say anything about subspace with classic but nice idea that would rock

 

[TrainerAbu]

I don't really care about Goombas

I just wanna go through a huge Kirby Super Star like level with co op with Whispy Woods boss and Kracko and tons of Kirby mini bosses like Bonkers and 99 thing but ya :3

 

[eodeth]

it would be great to have everything instead of just goombas topis and the other stuff like in ssbm (pokemon in a pokemon lvl, klaptraps and other dk stuff on dk isle, the enimies from earthbound, topis,goombas ,stuff from fire emblem, umm and other stuff like maybe even battle wizpig[diddy is in the game isnt he]) i still amaze myself

 

[Hydde]

oh come on,, we already fought goombas and flying turtles in melee!!

I support originality!

 

[eodeth]

yea but they need more like the ones they didnt put in read the post above yours

 

[Red Exodus]

wow he didnt say anything about subspace with classic but nice idea that would rock

I did, I just I referred to them as ETs.

 

[burrito]

I realize that originality is an important part of it. It's kind of cool, it makes Super Smash Bros. its own game. At the same time, though, Smash Bros. is a franchise that is based on fan service. Super Smash Bros. Melee was just a glimpse into what could have been the most epic crazy fantastic Nintendo single player crossover ever. The subspace emissary seems to tap into that potential, but the Nintendo crossover part is a bit lacking. It needs a balance between originality and fanservice, and so far it doesn't seem to be reaching that balance.

Goombas aren't the only enemies I would like to see. What about fighting knights and soldiers from Fire Emblem, or starmen and hippies from mother, pokemon, or kremlings? There are tons of enemies to choose from. It's not just the enemies, either. It's the levels and the cinema scenes. On that side of things Kid Icarus is the only franchise that seems to get representation in Subspace Emissary so far. What about a Mushroom Kingdom level? A level based off of Mother would be pretty awesome, a wacky Wario Ware level maybe, or a Metal Gear level. Most of the levels so far seem to be pretty generic, don't get me wrong, they look nice but they're generic.

Anyhow, I hope there is still a lot more to see and there probably is. It's just not going in the right direction so far.

 

[eodeth]

I realize that originality is an important part of it. It's kind of cool, it makes Super Smash Bros. its own game. At the same time, though, Smash Bros. is a franchise that is based on fan service. Super Smash Bros. Melee was just a glimpse into what could have been the most epic crazy fantastic Nintendo single player crossover ever. The subspace emissary seems to tap into that potential, but the Nintendo crossover part is a bit lacking. It needs a balance between originality and fanservice, and so far it doesn't seem to be reaching that balance.

Goombas aren't the only enemies I would like to see. What about fighting knights and soldiers from Fire Emblem, or starmen and hippies from mother, pokemon, or kremlings? There are tons of enemies to choose from. It's not just the enemies, either. It's the levels and the cinema scenes. On that side of things Kid Icarus is the only franchise that seems to get representation in Subspace Emissary so far. What about a Mushroom Kingdom level? A level based off of Mother would be pretty awesome, a wacky Wario Ware level maybe, or a Metal Gear level. Most of the levels so far seem to be pretty generic, don't get me wrong, they look nice but they're generic.

Anyhow, I hope there is still a lot more to see and there probably is. It's just not going in the right direction so far.

we have someone greater than i he should be a lead person(the guy with the ideas) in the production of the game

 

[TrainerAbu]

I realize that originality is an important part of it. It's kind of cool, it makes Super Smash Bros. its own game. At the same time, though, Smash Bros. is a franchise that is based on fan service. Super Smash Bros. Melee was just a glimpse into what could have been the most epic crazy fantastic Nintendo single player crossover ever. The subspace emissary seems to tap into that potential, but the Nintendo crossover part is a bit lacking. It needs a balance between originality and fanservice, and so far it doesn't seem to be reaching that balance.

Goombas aren't the only enemies I would like to see. What about fighting knights and soldiers from Fire Emblem, or starmen and hippies from mother, pokemon, or kremlings? There are tons of enemies to choose from. It's not just the enemies, either. It's the levels and the cinema scenes. On that side of things Kid Icarus is the only franchise that seems to get representation in Subspace Emissary so far. What about a Mushroom Kingdom level? A level based off of Mother would be pretty awesome, a wacky Wario Ware level maybe, or a Metal Gear level. Most of the levels so far seem to be pretty generic, don't get me wrong, they look nice but they're generic.

Anyhow, I hope there is still a lot more to see and there probably is. It's just not going in the right direction so far.

Oh. My. Gawd. Thank you, that's exactly what I've been trying to say but I fail at explaining.

 

[eodeth]

well thats ok trainer but it should have both of the nintendo and subspace enimies

 

[TrainerAbu]

well thats ok trainer but it should have both of the nintendo and subspace enimies

Yeah I know I never said I want the subspace enemies gone but yeah :3

 

[VanillaMummy]

Yeah there's bullet bills and hammer bros. and stuff

but with all the subspace army enemies and stuff, I'm just worried that 60% of all enemies will be those made-up subspace emo guys

I'd rather it be like 20-35% of the enemies being subspace guys, and the rest being you going to Kirby worlds and Mario worlds, fighting Waddle Dees and all kinds of enemies funly, instead of like 40 made up brawl subspace enemies

but yeah =3

Am I the only one that thinks Waddle-Dees are lame?

Anyways, I'm sure they'll be plenty of enemies from across the Nintendo franchises. Just give Sora LTD some time to reveal things people.

 

[TrainerAbu]

I like Waddle-Dees cuz Goombas just stand there and you defeat them in 1 jump. Waddle Dees can take awhile and I love using leet Cutter and Plasma and other Kirby abilities to slowly defeat the Waddle Dee that had tons of health in the Stadium mode of KSS but ya.

Actually Waddle Dees usually get defeated instantly, but in Super Star it takes a second before they dissapear and I think weak attacks don't defeat it right away.

 

[Stryks]

Seriously Sakurai originality DOESNT work!! give us the same enemies we have faced multiple times and nothing new! gosh... [/sarcasm]

this thread fails...

 

[eodeth]

yea they should have a kirby level and if u r playing with kirby then if u suck up the enemies then u will get a copy form