Tires Don Exits

[Umby]

Let's just not speculate on Sonic's tier position at the moment. **** is too biased for now. A tier list made by a group of sensible people will come along in a number of years, so stop worrying about it.

 

[Boxob]

While I agree with this completely, I don't think this needs it's own topic. D:



*bowser F-smash*

 

[Terios the Hedgehog]

Gimpyfish Combo!

 

[Kio Iranez]

PERSONALLY, I PREFER TIERS.

No, but seriously, you don't need a tier list to show Sonic's weaknesses. It's all statistics you can see for yourself. Though, just because Sonic's worse than most doesn't mean you shouldn't play as him.

 

[R4ZE]

if brawl was half as balanced as melee, then tiers wouldnt be an issue.
unfortunately, brawl is one of the most imbalanced games I've ever played.

I think a good topic would be: is smash really even supposed to be a competetive game?

nintendo has a history of making games that revo9vle around chance: mario kart, mario party, even smash brothers with items on is unarguably a game based on chance.

so maybe it was never at all inteneded to be a competetive game.

 

[Umby]

if brawl was half as balanced as melee, then tiers wouldnt be an issue.
unfortunately, brawl is one of the most imbalanced games I've ever played.

I think a good topic would be: is smash really even supposed to be a competetive game?

nintendo has a history of making games that revo9vle around chance: mario kart, mario party, even smash brothers with items on is unarguably a game based on chance.

so maybe it was never at all inteneded to be a competetive game.

I think the original idea was, "DUDE, DO YOU REALIZE HOW MANY GAMES WE COULD SELL WHERE LINK IS FIGHTING MARIO???!!"

 

[thecatinthehat]

if brawl was half as balanced as melee, then tiers wouldnt be an issue.
unfortunately, brawl is one of the most imbalanced games I've ever played.

I think a good topic would be: is smash really even supposed to be a competetive game?

nintendo has a history of making games that revo9vle around chance: mario kart, mario party, even smash brothers with items on is unarguably a game based on chance.

so maybe it was never at all inteneded to be a competetive game.

Inbalanced!?!? Melee was 20X worse.

 

[Napilopez]

I don't see the prob with having intelligent tier discussion. Speculating is fun. But people shouldn't be unreasonable about it. Yea. I personally like to discuss tier related stuff because I don't believe tiers are as set in stone as some people make it out to be, so its fun to discuss even if I don't take it seriously.

 

[R4ZE]

yuh freakin rite. atleast every1 can wavedash. its not like brawl where ddd can jus chain grab donkey accross the stage and back until 300% and then just kill him.

Ic's can chain, falco, and donkey can freakin throw people against the lip on FD and kill them.


the only thing like that in brawl was roy's instant kill on jiggly, and that was ONE thing. but jiggly could kill roy at like 30% with the down b anyway.

i could go on... but i guess its kinda pointless to argue melee vs brawls balanced-ness, especially here.


Tiers do definately exist, but i mean... its kind astupid to discuss it becuzz most people dont agree on them, mainly because no1 has seen the BEST player as each character...

NO, as a matter of fact, no1 has really seen tha BEST player as ANY character, because no character has been fully mastered. and the game's mechanicc/glitches/techs havent all been discovered. so really he is right, everyone should just shut up about tiers, because right now it will be changing really fast anyway.

 

[Umby]

Roy is definitely a Melee character.

 

[thecatinthehat]

yuh freakin rite. atleast every1 can wavedash. its not like brawl where ddd can jus chain grab donkey accross the stage and back until 300% and then just kill him.

Ic's can chain, falco, and donkey can freakin throw people against the lip on FD and kill them.


the only thing like that in brawl was roy's instant kill on jiggly, and that was ONE thing. but jiggly could kill roy at like 30% with the down b anyway.

i could go on... but i guess its kinda pointless to argue melee vs brawls balanced-ness, especially here.


Tiers do definately exist, but i mean... its kind astupid to discuss it becuzz most people dont agree on them, mainly because no1 has seen the BEST player as each character...

NO, as a matter of fact, no1 has really seen tha BEST player as ANY character, because no character has been fully mastered. and the game's mechanicc/glitches/techs havent all been discovered. so really he is right, everyone should just shut up about tiers, because right now it will be changing really fast anyway.

lol I just got pwn'd. Good points there.

 

[Boxob]

Roy is definitely a Melee character.

You keep stealing mah wards. :/

 

[TheLake]

I think if anyones gonna teach competitive folks a lesson its sonic. Jab then stall under the stage FTW ^_^

 

[Browny]

No, but seriously, you don't need a tier list to show Sonic's weaknesses. It's all statistics you can see for yourself.

and thats why everyone is wrong

Look at Lucarios stats on paper, he looks amazingly weak. in game however hes nigh untouchable and can combo like everyone else wish they could. those are the sort of stats you cant see for yourself. Sonics stats look weak, compared to someone like Falco. go watch that mr 3000 vs Sethlon video and see what difference it makes. Superior in almost every aspect, including a painful chain grab doesnt mean anything when tiers dont take into account playstyles.

 

[R4ZE]

Roy is definitely a Melee character.

it's facts like that that make me feel like my girlfriend just left me for another guy =(


Rest in peace roy, I'll miss you buddy.

 

[Umby]

it's facts like that that make me feel like my girlfriend just left me for another guy =(

Sorry about that. My genitals were just bigger, is all.

 

[R4ZE]

Sorry about that. My genitals were just bigger, is all.

it's cool i was cheating on her with ur mom anyway =P