Social "Time to Tip the Scales!" - Robin Social Thread

[Deleted member]

I've failed to catch up with this thread, but I'm not going to bother looking back on the 7-8 pages I missed because I'm too lazy.


Is Micaiah really that bad? I haven't played Radiant Dawn, so I wouldn't know.


How about a piece of cardboard with a blue wig?

(<3)

Chrom is at least a piece of cardboard that's dressed up, he even has some features painted on.

He's still cardboard though of course.

Roy is just a piece of cardboard with a red wigs stapled to him, though.

Much much worse.

What does smh mean anyway?

smh = shaking my head, used to express disappointment or disapproval (in jest and seriously at times.~)

 

[The_Cardinal]

More offtopic but....

After seeing what people can do, I'm sure we will have a F!Robin Amiibo as soon as Robin amiibo gets released.

Hmm... maybe then some people's Robin amiibos won't be so gender confused anymore.

 

[Kenith]

I'd like to think that they'll make a F!Robin amiibo, but then I remember that they only have M!Robin in Codename Steam. Sorry guys, Male Robin is canon, all players with female avatars are permanently alienated!

Reminds of the intro to Dark Souls 2, which not only gives your character a set history, but also confirms them as a family man. Because screw everybody who would rather play a woman, you don't exist as far as this game's intro is concerned.

Not an attack on M!Robin or anything, it just really annoys me.

 

[AustarusIV]

I'd like to think that they'll make a F!Robin amiibo, but then I remember that they only have M!Robin in Codename Steam. Sorry guys, Male Robin is canon, all players with female avatars are permanently alienated!

Reminds of the intro to Dark Souls 2, which not only gives your character a set history, but also confirms them as a family man. Because screw everybody who would rather play a woman, you don't exist as far as this game's intro is concerned.

Not an attack on M!Robin or anything, it just really annoys me.

That's seriously one of my biggest pet peeves in video gaming. I could go on about this for a long period of time, but I don't want to derail the thread.

So all I can just say is: establishing a canon "anything" for customizable characters is just ugh.

 

[Elezir]

I still say both characters are twins. Therefore, both exist.

They should've given us both Robins in the game. It would've changed some parts in the story, but it would be more interesting, imo.

 

[Kenith]

I still think they should have chose hooded Robin as the default Robin in order to avoid this.

I still say both characters are twins. Therefore, both exist.

They should've given us both Robins in the game. It would've changed some parts in the story, but it would be more interesting, imo.

I don't know...for Morgan it would work but two Robins at once would be weird...unless it's Smash...

 

[Coolpool2]

I'm sure there is some outrealm out there where both Robin's exist.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Your avatar is also of the best Marvel villain, so of course you can't complain.

And bar none is Doom the best Marvel villain. Adaptations that actually try to portray his badassery(Earth's Mightiest Heroes cartoon, MVC3) are unfortunately rare.

 

[Elezir]

I still think they should have chose hooded Robin as the default Robin in order to avoid this.
I don't know...for Morgan it would work but two Robins at once would be weird...unless it's Smash...

As I said, changing some stuff would be in order, so it wouldn't be odd. F!Robin and M!Robin have personalities different enough for that. They would need to change the name of one, and change their roles a bit.
At starting screen you would chose one of the genders, and the other gender would appear later as their twin. Of course, this kind of change now is impossible.

Hooded Robin is boring, imo. You can't see their awesome and silky white hair.
And it futher hints at their status as an "avatar", which is by all means a lie, imo.

 

[Kenith]

As I said, changing some stuff would be in order, so it wouldn't be odd. F!Robin and M!Robin have personalities different enough for that. They would need to change the name of one, and change their roles a bit.
At starting screen you would chose one of the genders, and the other gender would appear later as their twin. Of course, this kind of change now is impossible.

And it would force the developers to change the brainless plot twist of the second Robin just being Grima...interesting. I like it.
Also I know hooded Robin is boring, but I would rather have an amiibo of that than have a character I specifically didn't want...

 

[Elezir]

And it would force the developers to change the brainless plot twist of the second Robin just being Grima...interesting. I like it.
Also I know hooded Robin is boring, but I would rather have an amiibo of that than have a character I specifically didn't want...

Honeslty, there was so much wasted potential in the FE:A storyline, it's not even funny.Having both Robins there, side by side, would be really interesting. I would like to see how the dynamics between them would be, since the female is obviously more sassy than the male, for example.

Welp, can't be helped, I suppose. I like to think that Nintendo may release F!Robin amiibo later (from what I see, there's enough people wanting her)...but yeah, it still hints at M!Robin being the canon. Even if I'm completely ok with that, I can see why some people are disappointed.

 

[Coolpool2]

Well you can have multiple Robins through the Avatar logbook, but it's pretty non-canon. The supports between them would be great though. If there were two Robins I wonder which one Chrom would like more, he seems like the kind of guy to be impartial but still. I would have to say that he would like male Robin better at the beginning because of how much female Robin throws stuff at him, and them warm up to female Robin more.

 

[Elezir]

Well you can have multiple Robins through the Avatar logbook, but it's pretty non-canon. The supports between them would be great though. If there were two Robins I wonder which one Chrom would like more, he seems like the kind of guy to be impartial but still. I would have to say that he would like male Robin better at the beginning because of how much female Robin throws stuff at him, and them warm up to female Robin more.

 

[LIQUID12A]

If only Chrom had this sort of admiration for himself.

What? It's Chrom looking a tad...confused at this specific depiction of himself.

 

[Chapter Serf]

Umm...

Am I looking at?

 

[LIQUID12A]

Umm...

Am I looking at?

A pillow.

And Chrom looking upon said pillow in confusion.

nuthin wrong wit dat

 

[Chapter Serf]

Oh, is that Chrom's voice actor or something?

 

[LIQUID12A]

Oh, is that Chrom's voice actor or something?

Matthew Mercer, in the flesh.

You might remember him from There Will Be Brawl(he directed it), Persona 4: The Animation, Street Fighter 4, Batman Arkham Origins and Resident Evil 6.

 

[AirshBornely]

How worth it are the Spot Pass characters? Like the ones from the other games and such?

The bonus teams? I'm not an expert when it comes to Awakening, but I found some to be pretty useful.
I mostly just recruit those characters as I'm familar with some from the other games and to earn renown awards.

 

[The Merc]

Matthew Mercer, in the flesh.

You might remember him from There Will Be Brawl(he directed it), Persona 4: The Animation, Street Fighter 4, Batman Arkham Origins and Resident Evil 6.

He looks like an older version of the brother off iCarly.

Is it sad that I can never identity any voice actors when I see them ;-;?

 

[Hong]

Weeell, technicly... *puts on nerd glasses*
Diablo is the lord of terror, not of all evil

Diablo is indeed the Lord of Terror, as listed with my user title. I was in a rush to head out when I made that mistake.

I like the version of Diablo depicted the most, but I don't mind D3's Diablo... when he's not talking. All of the Prime and Lesser Evils in D3 are better when they are not talking. Act IV's dialogue felt like a programmer's recollection of being bullied in elementary school.

AWW LOOK AT THE CUTESY WOOTSY NEPHALEM. ARE YOU GONNA CRY? YOU GONNA CRY? WAAAH!

Nice update to Jona Drakonis. Looks more dashing than ever.

And I'm pretty sure Robin has his moments, like turning the Shepherds' own ship into a bomb that destroyed an ENTIRE enemy fleet, or turn his fellow Shepherds into meat shields while Tiki does....whatever it is she does

Spoiler

I did like that thing he did with the fire emblem and Basilio's "death" and the flaming ships, though.

For the ship thing... didn't they light half of their ships on fire and crash them?

Anyway, it's so incredibly stupid for so many reasons. First and foremost, while you can have multiple boats moving together in a line, this is ridiculously unfeasible with all the sails deployed at ramming speed... especially when the ships were just deployed for battle, and the enemy fleet has to be laid out SO SPECIFICALLY TO ALLOW THEM ALL TO HIT AT ONCE.

And if you could theoretically move the entire fleet at once in a line against an enemy moving in a line... boats are not cars. Boats that are sailing are like gliding through the water. To pick up speed, you deploy all the sails, and for that to have an effect, it will take time. It's hard to believe they would have enough time to pick up speed and simultaneously crash their boats into the enemy, when it would take like three or so minutes in the most favourable conditions to suddenly become fast. Whether the ship is on fire or not, unless the ship lays an anchor, you see it coming from literally like a mile away.

I am not SHOUTING AT YOU GUYS so much as I am so impressed at how hilariously inconceivable the writing is. "WE HAVE 1000 SHIPS, THEY HAVE 1000 SHIPS... LET'S LIGHT OUR SHIPS ON FIRE AND CRASH THEM" Literally. Those are the numbers they used.

Naval warfare can be close-quarters in nature, sure. We've had ships crash, we've had hot oil poured from one to another, we've had ships boarded, all that kind of thing... but nothing like that. We've had ships burn together in the past, sure, but never anything vaguely like this in history because it's impossible. It's not even a thing where "Oh, it's a fantasy story! It doesn't have to be realistic!", so much as you grow tired of the writers trying to convince you Robin is a tactician when s/he does things only because of either impossible conditions being satisfied, or does things that all of history's greatest tacticians, from Sun Tzu to Zhuge Liang, would never conceive if they were drunk.

Thankfully that's not why I love Robin.

Just that there are so many writers in Japan, particularly shonen writers, that can conceive intelligent characters who do realistic things with sometimes unrealistics powers and they surprise you. Not "surprise you because they are so dumb", but because you may not have thought of that. Lelouch from Code GEASS is a popular example. I'm so glad they have an actual writer for the next game.

Is Micaiah really that bad? I haven't played Radiant Dawn, so I wouldn't know.

She really doesn't have anything in the way of outstanding characteristics. She made some outrageous actions, but since she was at a point of such desperation, it seems to be a common moral limit that many would find themselves make those desperate decisions.

Micaiah isn't bad. A bit bland, but enough going on to keep the story going along at a healthy pace. She felt more useful than some of the bad lords out there, partially because the Dawn Brigade is the Dawn Brigade.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Diablo is indeed the Lord of Terror, as listed with my user title.

For the cute little Lord of Terror, giant fat demon Midbud thing fails to be terrifying.

Unless, of course, the Lord of Terror had some part in that freaky visual novel floating around the Internet.

 

[Hong]

For the cute little Lord of Terror, giant fat demon Midbud thing fails to be terrifying.

Unless, of course, the Lord of Terror had some part in that freaky visual novel floating around the Internet.

The first time I fought Diablo in... Diablo... Alright. Ranger with broken gear, ezpz.

The first time I fought Diablo in Diablo II... I summoned him, the screen shook, and as I heard "Not even death can save you from me!"

And the screen froze.

...

Suddenly I see a billion spell graphics play at the same time, hear a billion sound files play at the same time, my character is dead and a big red demon is walking around.

That is the true meaning of terror...

... And also why you should play games at the recommended requirements.

All that aside, Lord Dibbles is pretty adorable for the incarnation of terror itself.

 

[The Merc]

The first time I fought Diablo in... Diablo... Alright. Ranger with broken gear, ezpz.

The first time I fought Diablo in Diablo II... I summoned him, the screen shook, and as I heard "Not even death can save you from me!"

And the screen froze.

...

Suddenly I see a billion spell graphics play at the same time, hear a billion sound files play at the same time, my character is dead and a big red demon is walking around.

That is the true meaning of terror...

... And also why you should play games at the recommended requirements.

All that aside, Lord Dibbles is pretty adorable for the incarnation of terror itself.

.........

Still a cheap ripped off of Ganon....

please don't hurt me

 

[Hong]

.........

Still a cheap ripped off of Ganon....

please don't hurt me

Your mom is a cheap rip-off of Ganon....

 

[The Merc]

Your mom is a cheap rip-off of Ganon....

;-;. Ouch, that actually hurt Hong....

I thought you were my sworn protector.....

 

[Elezir]

Diablo is indeed the Lord of Terror, as listed with my user title. I was in a rush to head out when I made that mistake.

I like the version of Diablo depicted the most, but I don't mind D3's Diablo... when he's not talking. All of the Prime and Lesser Evils in D3 are better when they are not talking. Act IV's dialogue felt like a programmer's recollection of being bullied in elementary school.

AWW LOOK AT THE CUTESY WOOTSY NEPHALEM. ARE YOU GONNA CRY? YOU GONNA CRY? WAAAH!

Nice update to Jona Drakonis. Looks more dashing than ever.
For the ship thing... didn't they light half of their ships on fire and crash them?

Anyway, it's so incredibly stupid for so many reasons. First and foremost, while you can have multiple boats moving together in a line, this is ridiculously unfeasible with all the sails deployed at ramming speed... especially when the ships were just deployed for battle, and the enemy fleet has to be laid out SO SPECIFICALLY TO ALLOW THEM ALL TO HIT AT ONCE.

And if you could theoretically move the entire fleet at once in a line against an enemy moving in a line... boats are not cars. Boats that are sailing are like gliding through the water. To pick up speed, you deploy all the sails, and for that to have an effect, it will take time. It's hard to believe they would have enough time to pick up speed and simultaneously crash their boats into the enemy, when it would take like three or so minutes in the most favourable conditions to suddenly become fast. Whether the ship is on fire or not, unless the ship lays an anchor, you see it coming from literally like a mile away.

I am not SHOUTING AT YOU GUYS so much as I am so impressed at how hilariously inconceivable the writing is. "WE HAVE 1000 SHIPS, THEY HAVE 1000 SHIPS... LET'S LIGHT OUR SHIPS ON FIRE AND CRASH THEM" Literally. Those are the numbers they used.

Naval warfare can be close-quarters in nature, sure. We've had ships crash, we've had hot oil poured from one to another, we've had ships boarded, all that kind of thing... but nothing like that. We've had ships burn together in the past, sure, but never anything vaguely like this in history because it's impossible. It's not even a thing where "Oh, it's a fantasy story! It doesn't have to be realistic!", so much as you grow tired of the writers trying to convince you Robin is a tactician when s/he does things only because of either impossible conditions being satisfied, or does things that all of history's greatest tacticians, from Sun Tzu to Zhuge Liang, would never conceive if they were drunk.

Thankfully that's not why I love Robin.

Just that there are so many writers in Japan, particularly shonen writers, that can conceive intelligent characters who do realistic things with sometimes unrealistics powers and they surprise you. Not "surprise you because they are so dumb", but because you may not have thought of that. Lelouch from Code GEASS is a popular example. I'm so glad they have an actual writer for the next game.

I liked that strategy because it has been used in real life situation for ages already, principally in Ancient Era and Middle ages, if documents of these stuff are anything to go by, like, say, the Siege of Tyre or Battle of Barfleur.
(x)- For account, I did read parts of this book some time ago, that's I really liked that strategy used in the game.
(x)
(x)
And then this bit of curiousity.
How they sank so many ships -which vastly outnumbered them- with this tactic can be questionable, but since we know nothing about how the Valm Grouped their ships, if we imagine they were tight enough, it had the possibility of working.
Either way, this was a real strategy used in wars before it became obsolete with the advent of technology, as absurd as it sounds, so kudos for that. Actually, now that I think about it, that's why you need to fight these battles in chapter 14: so you can position the fireships close to the enemies, which aren't in flames yet, just covered in oil and waiting for some fire to burst into flames, I suppose. Of course, the way the story executes it is a bit...clusmy and lacking. For example, I just noticed the real point in battling the enemies now after reading how they put the fireship close to the enemy irl appliactions.
Also, 1000 ships? Did they ever state the number of ships at all? I'm reading this script right now on fire emblem wiki and I can't find anything about how many ship each side had, just that Valm outnumbered them.

 

[The Merc]

HEY GUYS, me and @ Elezir just finished the B support for our Fire Emblem OC, here it is if you want to have a read

Spoiler

Finx - "Glup, Glup"

Yu- "Found you, brat. Give me back what you stole, before I make you eat this glass together with your milk"

Finx -"Glup, glup"

Yu- "Oi! Are you even listing to me?!"

Finx- "Glup, Ah! Now that was very refreshing. Uh? Hey Yu! Need something?"

Yu - "Dont try to feign innocence, you little thief! You know what I want! Give me my damn pendant back!

Finx - "Pedant? What Pendant? Oh you mean your pendant? About this big with a emerald?"

Yu - "...I won't repeat myself. Just give me it back."

Finx - "Gez, Yu. I would really love, truly I would. But unfortunately I can't'

Yu - " What?! Why?!

Finx - " I don't have it anymore. I gave it to someone else."

Yu - "You. Did. WHAT?! You little rat! That was important to me!"

Finx "Yeah and how people treat Vinx is important to me."

Yu- "You---Tsk, whatever! I just want that damn pendant back!"

Finx -"First, apologise Vinx!"

Yu- "Why do I--Tsk! Damn brat! I'm s...sorry! There you have it! Happy now?! Now, please, give me that pendant back."

Finx- '"Hm, I guess that apology will do. But I already told, I can't give it back to you cause I gave it to someone else"

Yu- "THEN GO GET IT BACK!"

Yu - "You...!!! Tsk, right! Whatever! Just give me the stupid price!"

Finx - "Tell me why this pedant is so important to you?"

Yu - "Why should I tell you?"

Finx- "Simple, you tell me and you get your pendant back. You don't and anyone might walk way with it"

Yu -"...That's an...important reminder. Now, go get it back...tsk, please?"

Finx -"........Sigh. Ok, I'll get your pedant back Yu'Lee. Sorry for being a jerk. I can see it means a lot to you"

Yu- "...Whatever, just go get it"

Finx- "...."

Feed back is most welcome .

 

[SimonBarSinister]

For the ship thing... didn't they light half of their ships on fire and crash them?

My memory is telling me that the Shepherds used just one of their ships to ram the enemy fleet then set the whole thing on fire, effectively causing collateral damage.

Anyway, it's so incredibly stupid for so many reasons. First and foremost, while you can have multiple boats moving together in a line, this is ridiculously unfeasible with all the sails deployed at ramming speed... especially when the ships were just deployed for battle, and the enemy fleet has to be laid out SO SPECIFICALLY TO ALLOW THEM ALL TO HIT AT ONCE.

It's a game, alright? No need to put a lot of thought to this.

And if you could theoretically move the entire fleet at once in a line against an enemy moving in a line... boats are not cars. Boats that are sailing are like gliding through the water. To pick up speed, you deploy all the sails, and for that to have an effect, it will take time. It's hard to believe they would have enough time to pick up speed and simultaneously crash their boats into the enemy, when it would take like three or so minutes in the most favourable conditions to suddenly become fast. Whether the ship is on fire or not, unless the ship lays an anchor, you see it coming from literally like a mile away.

Maybe someone was spamming the crap out of wind spells to get that boat moving.....Maybe.

I am not SHOUTING AT YOU GUYS so much as I am so impressed at how hilariously inconceivable the writing is. "WE HAVE 1000 SHIPS, THEY HAVE 1000 SHIPS... LET'S LIGHT OUR SHIPS ON FIRE AND CRASH THEM" Literally. Those are the numbers they used.

Like I said, I think they only used one to start burning stuff.

Naval warfare can be close-quarters in nature, sure. We've had ships crash, we've had hot oil poured from one to another, we've had ships boarded, all that kind of thing... but nothing like that. We've had ships burn together in the past, sure, but never anything vaguely like this in history because it's impossible. It's not even a thing where "Oh, it's a fantasy story! It doesn't have to be realistic!", so much as you grow tired of the writers trying to convince you Robin is a tactician when s/he does things only because of either impossible conditions being satisfied, or does things that all of history's greatest tacticians, from Sun Tzu to Zhuge Liang, would never conceive if they were drunk.

Personally, I don't bother to give this stuff any thought whatsoever. I'll just sit back and enjoy the show.

Thankfully that's not why I love Robin.

You love him because he's our spell-slinging, lightning sword-brandishing and stylish tactician who happens to be a one man matchmaking service.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

He looks like an older version of the brother off iCarly.

Is it sad that I can never identity any voice actors when I see them ;-;?

If you can identify these two's main characters...

Spoiler

you're good.

 

[The Merc]

If you can identify these two's main characters...

Spoiler

you're good.

When you say identify, do you mean their real life names or characters they VA. Cause I know the guy on the right does Mario, Luigi, Wario and I think Yoshi and Waluigi, though I can never remember his name ( I am bad with names sometimes). Though I don't know how the guy on the right is. I failed, didn't I? ;-;

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

When you say identify, do you mean their real life names or characters they VA. Cause I know the guy on the right does Mario, Luigi, Wario and I think Yoshi and Waluigi, though I can never remember his name ( I am bad with names sometimes). Though I don't know how the guy on the right is. I failed, didn't I? ;-;

Charles Martinet on the left you were correct on characters, mostly. Right is David Hayter the voice of Solid Snake, one of my personal favorites.

 

[The Merc]

Charles Martinet on the left you were correct on characters, mostly. Right is David Hayter the voice of Solid Snake, one of my personal favorites.

Charles Martinet. I got to remember that. Yeah, i knew I might have a few wrong. Was it Waluigi and Yoshi? Also, how was I suppose to know David Hayter? I have never played a Metal Gear game in my life.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Charles Martinet. I got to remember that. Yeah, i knew I might have a few wrong. Was it Waluigi and Yoshi? Also, how was I suppose to know David Hayter? I have never played a Metal Gear game in my life.

Just a personal favorite I though you should know.
Waluigi is correct. Yoshi, I don't think so. Mario, Luigi, Wario, and Waluigi.

 

[redfeatherraven]

Silly as it sounds, for years I couldn't remember Charles Martinet, until I heard him as the narrator for Bit.Trip Runner 2.

Something about announcing his name as the game starts up finally made it stick that he was a real person, with person bits and everything.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Your mom is a cheap rip-off of Ganon....

mastur ch33f pls

das not even a gud ur mom joke

 

[redfeatherraven]

das not even a gud ur mom joke

Your mom's not a good your mom joke.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Your mom's not a good your mom joke.

Well, she's currently hospitalized and to be operated on, so she couldn't be even if I legitimayely tried, unfortunately. :/

 

[Kenith]

Matthew Mercer, in the flesh.
You might remember him from There Will Be Brawl(he directed it), Persona 4: The Animation, Street Fighter 4, Batman Arkham Origins and Resident Evil 6.

Can't get over the fact that Matt Mercer and Laura Bailey were the main characters in two of my favorite games.

 

[redfeatherraven]

Well, she's currently hospitalized and to be operated on, so she couldn't be even if I legitimayely tried, unfortunately. :/

Oh.

Er.

Damn, I feel stupid now.

Heart goes out, man. Here's to a speedy recovery.