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Elezir

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The fact that I'm forced to use sothe in part 4 annoys me because bane. Imagine if bane happened to awakening?
I'd just keep it away from my active skills. principally because we are talking about awakening
Most of my units can oneshot almost everything by middle of the game in Normal or Hard, anyway.
I could see this being kinda helpful in Lunatic/+, but with the RNG lord always against the player, the chance of it activing in helpful moment are nonexisting.
It would probably activite at that rare moment in which your unit was actually going to oneshot that damn wyvern lord, so it wouldn't be able to reach your poor healer the next turn, but alas, RNG lord had another idea.
 
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You wanna know who else had Bane as his skill?

Captain Falcon. :4falcon:

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He was the bane of Chrom's existence.

:seuss:
 

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Still a complete BEEFCAKE for part 1, though. Just don't want to use him since he's an XP sponge. For that, we have Chuck Nolan.... The latter of who I now find myself associating with @ Drakonis Drakonis .
Huh, I wonder how that happened.

Nolan is pretty damn awesome though. In PoR, I remember liking Boyd a lot because he kept being awesome especially in late game.
In RD, I found myself dropping him rather quickly since he underperformed. And Nolan just straight up outclassed him.
There where suprisingly few characters I really liked in PoR that I had to bench in RD though, which was really nice to see.
Particularly Haar and Nephenee just seemed to have improved since their already impressive outings in PoR.
 

Elezir

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You wanna know who else had Bane as his skill?

Captain Falcon. :4falcon:

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He was the bane of Chrom's existence.

:seuss:
Poor Chrom.
Forever doomed to be the joke of the smash community.
He's actually a nice guy... and his bromance with Robin is really tasteful
Actually, ever since his decomfirmation vid, I feel that even the Fire emblem community started making jokes with him. (Of course, I didn't know that Fire emblem even existed before meeting Robin in SSB4, so that could be only my impression and people already joked around with Chrom before.)
 
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Poor Chrom.
Forever doomed to be the joke of the smash community.
Eh, this isn't the first time I've done a gif like that. Once I did one based on Injustice, another based on MGS4, and another one from Dragon Age: Inquisition.

They were all lolzy.
 
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Eh, this isn't the first time I've done a gif like that. Once I did one based on Injustice, another based on MGS4, and another one from Dragon Age: Inquisition.

They were all lolzy.
Don't get me wrong.
I lol'd a lot at this kind of stuff:cheep:
Joking around with fictional characters is fun.
It's just that sometimes I can't help but feel just a tad bad for him. Just a tad. Then I'll go save that gif for future uses.
 

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:3 thanks. Once we get all the supports done (so we can have a entire piece to look at) I'll indeed want some ideas to get it to be a better support, of course, if @Unknown Hero doesn't mind.

About the theory bit
What I understood from the storyline is that Grima follows Lucina to ensure that he gets ressurected in the past. He tries to get control of Present!Robin, just like Future!Robin, but fails, causing the amnesia, and giving him bits of the Future!Robin memories.
Of course, it ends up causing a paradox in which two Robins exists, enabling Grima's death by the hands of Present!Robin, because the game says he's Grima, too.:054: Something, I must say, still confuses me. I see Present!Robin as Grima's vessel, which means he's not Grima yet in any way. He has (or had) the potential to become a god of destruction, but that's about it.
But eh, let's go with it: Technically, the only way Grima would be able to revive would be via assuming control of Robin, his vessel, therefore, assuming control of the only thing that could kill him for good.
I still don't understand exactly why Grima didn't ressurect himself earlier, honestly, because it's shown that he could have done it alone with Bad Future!Robin's body. Or why he didn't try to assume control of Present!Robin again, before his bonds with Chrom and the Shepards got too strong.:054: The idea that amnesia helped him deny Grima is because when he mets Chrom he can't remember anything about his past, and ends up becoming more attached to the present, than to it, when he was with the Grimleal. That means his past wouldn't be a hindrance anymore to his relationship with the shepards, as it probably was with the Bad Future!Robin.
I can understand why he would still try to get control of Robin at the end, seeing as Robin was, for some reason, the only one able to kill him. But really, he already had one Robin under his control to do his evilz stuff, so why couldn't he just kill Present!Robin when it was easy to do do?
The Bad Future dlc give us base to the theory that the Bad future timeline stayed in another dimension when Lucina and cia travelled to the past, so killing Present!Robin shouldn't change anything for Grima.
That theory shows us that Grima travelling to the past after Lucina was useless, too, and even got all his versions killed for nothing, because he could just stay in that other dimension doing all destruction he wanted.
The storyline has some pretty big holes in it's plot, and yeah, it's nothing too Earthbreaking, but I still like how it executed some cliches pretty well, such as "the amnesiac" and "FRIENDSHIP POWAR is stronger than EVERYTHING" tropes.
However, the best part of the game lies within it's characters(via support). That's why I say it's the game's strongest points: The difficult is nothing to look at, the storyline, aside some minor points, is pretty bleh. The characters, however, just painted this games the color it has.



At least they aren't as bad as Marth:troll: I mean c'mon.
But yeah, Nintendo doesn't make "real" human figurines too well. Principally when it comes to the face's details.
Ness looks good, for example.
I dunno...Shulk looks pretty good...When they don't make him as derpy as this one:
 
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And for all we know, Robin and Lucina could turn out fine. If I recall, most of the Marths weren't as bad as the infamous one that's circling the web.
 

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I dunno...Shulk looks pretty good...When they don't make him as derpy as this one:
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It...doesn't look that bad, but the expression looks off, imo.
Somehow the amiibos based off "anime" look like that, with the exception of Marth, that looks just terrible.
Funnily enough, Link and Zelda actually look pretty good.




It could be because of the angle that the photo was taken, too, though.
If that's the case, it's probably Nintendo that doesn't know how to take photos properly.
 
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It...doesn't look that bad, but the expression looks off, imo.
Somehow the amiibos based off "anime" look like that, with the exception of Marth, that looks just terrible.
Funnily enough, Link and Zelda actually look pretty good.




It could be because of the angle that the photo was taken, too, though.
If that's the case, it's probably Nintendo that doesn't know how to take photos properly.
Can confirm. Link is one of the few I have, and he looks great aside from the place where the plastic attaches to keep him upright being too visible and therefore you can see a gaping hole in his leg if you look closely.
 

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Funnily enough, Link and Zelda actually look pretty good.




It could be because of the angle that the photo was taken, too, though.
If that's the case, it's probably Nintendo that doesn't know how to take photos properly.
I can also confirm that Zelda looks perfectly normal irl. Her hair color is slightly off, but that's it.
 

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It...doesn't look that bad, but the expression looks off, imo.
Somehow the amiibos based off "anime" look like that, with the exception of Marth, that looks just terrible.
Funnily enough, Link and Zelda actually look pretty good.




It could be because of the angle that the photo was taken, too, though.
If that's the case, it's probably Nintendo that doesn't know how to take photos properly.
Uh, that was the E3 Link model. This is the real one:



And here's the real Zelda too:



Zelda looks abotu the same, Link tho...He looks worse than his E3 model. The realistic ones overall aren't as good for the most part. : \
 
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So, it can be either that Nintendo didn't expend much effort on the other anime based characters, probably because they aren't big selling hits as Legend of Zelda, for example, or it could be just the photos that were taken from an unfortunate angle.

Another thing we should consider is that not all amiibos are going to look the same, I suppose. Some are going to look better than others.
 
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I'd imagine the anime characters are just more complicated to design as well. Mario, Pikachu, Kirby, Pac-Man, Ness, and so forth are all simple in design and super-cartoony. Link, the FE gang, Shulk, and others all have quite a bit of detail on them.
 

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I'd imagine the anime characters are just more complicated to design as well. Mario, Pikachu, Kirby, Pac-Man, Ness, and so forth are all simple in design and super-cartoony. Link, the FE gang, Shulk, and others all have quite a bit of detail on them.
Yeah, trying to capture their face's details and expression can be difficult. Not so much for clothes details.
It's just that whatever little thing off in their expression/face can be perceived right off the bat by us, unlike Ness, because he is more "cartoonized" and doesn't look as "realistic", for the lack of better words, as these characters in particular do.
When we look at their faces, we look searching for every detail in expression, particulary the eyes, we can find, because they resemble humans irl more, imo.
 
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Well, we can have Tellius Talk whenever we want. ♥

Even though it was basically spoiled everywhere and anywhere, I like that Radiant Dawn concealed the Greil Mercenaries until the end of part 2. They are entirely omitted from the introduction until they appear in the game. I mean, with how the story mentions how they have not been heard of in ages you kind of knew they would appear eventually, but it did not make their appearance any less epic.

It also felt great when you got to control them, Let's be honest: Overall they blow the Dawn Brigade out of the water, which really helped to make them feel like legendary warriors. Sure it means the early Dawn Brigade chapters are a little on the easy side, but totally worth it. :)

Was also kind of fun to get the chance to bop your own units in Radiant Dawn when playing as the opposing force. With those units you really didn't like, it was just cool to see them get demolished. For those units you may have put in great effort to raise, like Nolan or Edward, it felt like seeing your greatest creations clash.
 

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Sure it means the early Dawn Brigade chapters are a little on the easy side, but totally worth it. :)
Two words: Daen Arise
This flipping chapter (If you're like me so no Naliah / Black Knight) is the reason why I stopped my 5th playthrough.
 

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What do you think?That's unfortunate. Wish we could do something to make you feel more in-of-place. :147:
THEY HAVE FEET! :D

But I'll probably be giving a more thorough explanation about how I really feel about it after I watch it a few more times and see if there are any other videos covering the new FE.

And it's no problem. I only feel this way because I've been away for quite some time.

Will a hug make you feel better?:happysheep:
Either way, nice to met you, since I've only joined the forums recently.
More than likely :awesome: And nice to meet you too, Elezir. That's a Robin avatar that I haven't seen before around here. Hope you've been enjoying your time so far.

You're always welcome. :)
And that is appreciated :)
 

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Well, we can have Tellius Talk whenever we want. ♥

Even though it was basically spoiled everywhere and anywhere.
Thank god that I skiped all the Tellius discussion because I'm just starting PoR and I'm planning to continue with RD.
 

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**** THE AI OF THIS GAME!!

I stick Chrom with Donnel so Donnel can, oh, I don't know, get some ****ing XP and kill some ****. And it was going pretty well. This axe loser goes and attacks Donnel and Chrom's like "Nope! Not today!" and he dinks on Chrom, then Donnel pokes him and Chrom proceeds to **** him. I manage to weaken this axe loser to like, 2 health.

Next turn?

This ****ing Axe Dumbass goes and commits suicide against Gaius. And I was like seriously? Any other ****ing situation, and that ******* would have gone full tilt into Donnel's Bronze Stick and die, giving Donnel a level. BUT NOOOOOOO. We have to go and die against the THIEF so the Wyvern Rider on the other side of the map with his -234% Chance of hitting a THIEF using a SWORD with an AXE can have a chance at killing the thief.

Rant over.

I am really wondering if I can ever level up Donnel... I'm not that far into the game, but he can't do ****. I'm only Chapter 7...
 
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**** THE AI OF THIS GAME!!

I stick Chrom with Donnel so Donnel can, oh, I don't know, get some ****ing XP and kill some ****. And it was going pretty well. This axe loser goes and attacks Donnel and Chrom's like "Nope! Not today!" and he dinks on Chrom, then Donnel pokes him and Chrom proceeds to **** him. I manage to weaken this axe loser to like, 2 health.

Next turn?

This ****ing Axe ******* goes and commits suicide against Gaius. And I was like seriously? Any other ****ing situation, and that ******* would have gone full tilt into Donnel's Bronze Stick and die, giving Donnel a level. BUT NOOOOOOO. We have to go and die against the THIEF so the Wyvern Rider on the other side of the map with his -234% Chance of hitting a THIEF using a SWORD with an AXE can have a chance at killing the thief.

Rant over.

I am really wondering if I can ever level up Donnel... I'm not that far into the game, but he can't do ****. I'm only Chapter 7...
Is this on a Normal playthrough?
 

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If I can get him using an Iron Spear instead of a Bronze one, I think he'll be OK. But right now, he can't do any damage to all these Wyvern Riders. Which is a shame because my units can beat them pretty low and get them to like 1 or 2 HP, which is all Donnel would need otherwise to end them.

Is this on a Normal playthrough?
Call it what you want, the AI is a **********. They will bypass half a dozen near-death units for the sole purpose of attacking your Cleric/Troubadour/Donnel.

Who is hiding in a fortress.

And that they have 20% chance of hitting.

It would be comical if it wasn't so frustrating.
 
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If I can get him using an Iron Spear instead of a Bronze one, I think he'll be OK. But right now, he can't do any damage to all these Wyvern Riders. Which is a shame because my units can beat them pretty low and get them to like 1 or 2 HP, which is all Donnel would need otherwise to end them.


Call it what you want, the AI is a **********. They will bypass half a dozen near-death units for the sole purpose of attacking your Cleric/Troubadour.
Of course they do.
Any unit with a staff can't attack back, so they prefer to go for these.
But yeah, the AI can be kinda dumb sometimes.
 

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If I can get him using an Iron Spear instead of a Bronze one, I think he'll be OK. But right now, he can't do any damage to all these Wyvern Riders. Which is a shame because my units can beat them pretty low and get them to like 1 or 2 HP, which is all Donnel would need otherwise to end them.
Donnel is like a Magikarp.

He has pitiful starting stats but comes with a skill, Aptitude, that increases ALL of his growth rates by 20% with no penalty. He's extremely difficult to train as a Villager, but can become incredibly powerful. And unlike many other cases in the series, this "Magikarp Power" is actually built into his character too; the sidequest you get him in focuses on him overcoming his fears of being useless, and getting him to level up at least once is how you recruit him.

When playing without using DLC maps or random zombie encounters to grind endlessly, Donnel can be a game breaker due to his high growths. Having lower stat caps means less when he's the only one who could ever get his stats up to the cap levels anyway. On even the harder difficulties, a maxed out Donnel can charge out by himself ahead of the rest of the army, get swarmed by large numbers of enemies, and easily emerge victorious even on the last level of the game. And if a Female Avatar marries him..... Morgan could easily kill gods at that point.
 
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If I can get him using an Iron Spear instead of a Bronze one, I think he'll be OK. But right now, he can't do any damage to all these Wyvern Riders. Which is a shame because my units can beat them pretty low and get them to like 1 or 2 HP, which is all Donnel would need otherwise to end them.


Call it what you want, the AI is a **********. They will bypass half a dozen near-death units for the sole purpose of attacking your Cleric/Troubadour/Donnel.

Who is hiding in a fortress.

And that they have 20% chance of hitting.

It would be comical if it wasn't so frustrating.
You could try giving him a forged Bronze Lance for extra power and crit chance.
 

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The AI's priorities are all wrong. It's like, let's go kill all the crappy units, ignore the Avatar and Chrom who can **** us with bronze weapons and instead pick off the crappy units.


NO! You kill the dangerous stuff first! THEN you go for the crappy stuff.

Granted, Chrom and the Avatar are pretty damn scary. (Chapter 7 and the Avatar is already level 15 and can kill pretty much anything in a couple of shots).
You could try giving him a forged Bronze Lance for extra power and crit chance.
I'll give that a try. Probably something I should do if I ever hope to turn Donnel into the Eater of Gods.

As for the Avatar,

I can't decide for this playthrough between Stall and Rickon. I like both of them. Mainly because I see myself in "Eternally Absentmindedly and Hungry" Stall and "Always Trying His Best" Rickon.

Also, Rickon had a really adorable moment with the Avatar.

During Paralogue 2, the obviously gay Bandit was all like "I'm gonna kill you half dead Avatar!" And Rickon, who was paired with the Avatar was all like "NOOOOOOOOOO!" And the bandit did no damage to the Avatar and then Rickon was like "YOU DON'T HURT MY FRIENDS!!!" And proceeded to crit-**** the bandit for like 24 damage. With Elwind. And then went and got a C support convo with the Avatar.
 

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Ah yes, I remember my first try at the Donnel mission. I almost quit until I heard of his true potential.

What I did was pair him up with Kellam, had Donnel lead until he leveled up and keep him where there were few enemies but enough to help his EXP, and then switch Kellam to the front.

The AI's priorities are all wrong. It's like, let's go kill all the crappy units, ignore the Avatar and Chrom who can **** us with bronze weapons and instead pick off the crappy units.


NO! You kill the dangerous stuff first! THEN you go for the crappy stuff.

Granted, Chrom and the Avatar are pretty damn scary. (Chapter 7 and the Avatar is already level 15 and can kill pretty much anything in a couple of shots).

I'll give that a try. Probably something I should do if I ever hope to turn Donnel into the Eater of Gods.

As for the Avatar,

I can't decide for this playthrough between Stall and Rickon. I like both of them. Mainly because I see myself in "Eternally Absentmindedly and Hungry" Stall and "Always Trying His Best" Rickon.

Also, Rickon had a really adorable moment with the Avatar.

During Paralogue 2, the obviously gay Bandit was all like "I'm gonna kill you half dead Avatar!" And Rickon, who was paired with the Avatar was all like "NOOOOOOOOOO!" And the bandit did no damage to the Avatar and then Rickon was like "YOU DON'T HURT MY FRIENDS!!!" And proceeded to crit-**** the bandit for like 24 damage. With Elwind. And then went and got a C support convo with the Avatar.
I almost went with Ricken in my first run until I recruited Nowi. Then I knew I had to put them together because adorable mage x adorable dragon girl=adorable. And I was right- their supports rock. That, and I accidentally married Chrom because I had no clue how the support system worked. Oops.
Donnel is also a pretty awesome parent, especially since he passes on Aptitude to his kids. I've heard good things about him with Sully and Nowi, but I prefer Sully because of the aforementioned Ricken/Nowi, plus Kjelle gets gorgeous purple hair to match her eyes and armor.
 
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The best way to level up Donnel is to surround an archer. Then Donnel can just whack him over and over till he dies. It usually takes a little over two archers for Donnel to level up on Lunatic.
 

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Oh my gods, guys, I was trying to get some help for translating Volug's supports since he speaks in the ancient language, and I found this gem: http://old.serenesforest.net/fe10/support/index.htm

It has all the possible supports since it's all generic in Radiant Dawn, but some of these are so hilarious. Some of the major highlights include...

Micaiah's A-Support with Duke Tanas
"Duke Tanas... I know everybody thinks you're horrible because of what you've done in the past. But not me! I think you just need different hobbies! I'd be glad to model for a sculpture when this is all over."

Fiona's A-Support with Tibarn
"King Tibarn, I blush at admitting it, but I know no better joy than when I'm with you. May we always be together."

Edward's A-Support with Kurth
"Kurth, don't slip away. Ever since I first met you, I've liked you. Let's see through this nightmare together!"

Essentially, Micaiah's got a vain side, Fiona has a major crush on Tibarn, and Edward has a major crush on Kurth and Leonardo since the latter's A-Support conversations are literally the gayest thing I've ever seen.
 

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So I've recently gotten on this thing where I'm obsessed with transparent backgrounds and I've gotten pretty good at it, so I thought "Why not do a gif? Can't be too hard?" But Holy Hell it is. I've gotten 32 frames into this thing and now realize that it looks uber-sketchy but, hey, here it is anyway.


Edit: Only 39 more frames to go!!
 
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iirc, there's always an archer that you can send Donnel to beat up at the top-left corner of the map; that's almost a guaranteed level up since he puts himself in such a cramped spot. What I did was bait out one archer at a time (near the boss), then surround him while Donnel bopped him. It'd give him a head start on levels, at least.

Well, we can have Tellius Talk whenever we want. ♥

Even though it was basically spoiled everywhere and anywhere, I like that Radiant Dawn concealed the Greil Mercenaries until the end of part 2. They are entirely omitted from the introduction until they appear in the game. I mean, with how the story mentions how they have not been heard of in ages you kind of knew they would appear eventually, but it did not make their appearance any less epic.
I guess that epic return was slightly diminished for me, seeing that Radiant Dawn was my first FE game; from Smash Bros, I was kinda expecting Ike to appear in the game sometime. :p Still, it didn't make the Greil Mercenaries' appearance any less awesome! :grin:

Oh my gods, guys, I was trying to get some help for translating Volug's supports since he speaks in the ancient language, and I found this gem: http://old.serenesforest.net/fe10/support/index.htm
Gawds, how did I put up with these awful supports? :rotfl:
 
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