Social "Time to Tip the Scales!" - Robin Social Thread

[RobinOnDrugs]

Zero will be voiced by Koyasu Takehito, who also voices this character.

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I was a fool to fall for the charms of the Hoshido women but I will side with my family of Nohr!

KONO ZERO DA!

The fanart for this guy will be awesome.

 

[Coolpool2]

I'm pretty sure this hasn't been posted here yet so sorry if it has. Shadowofchaos uploaded another translation video for the recent trailer.

 

[Célja]

I'm watching some old replays of mine, and it's funny seeing Robin run from over halfway across the stage, and run off the ledge just to nair someone.

http://gfycat.com/GlassIncomparableDingo

And here's a bonus clip of Nair from the same replay
http://gfycat.com/RightCrazyGrassspider

 

[Zantetsugun]

Zero will be voiced by Koyasu Takehito, who also voices this character.

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I was a fool to fall for the charms of the Hoshido women but I will side with my family of Nohr!

According to his profile, this guy is one hell of a sadist, so this actually fits even better.

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Spoiler: WARNING! Somewhat implied sexual situations

 

[Kotor]

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She likes it rough.

 

[Baskerville]

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She likes it rough.

 

[Célja]

So I also found this replay which I titled "Best Book Kill" and checked into it. Well I think it's certainly my most creative one.
http://gfycat.com/IndelibleHardtofindAlleycat

I remember meaning to jump after that first offstage Nair, but considering that it caused this sequence to happen I'm not complaining at all. I think that Fox would have made it, but he angled the Fire Fox down for whatever reason (Probably shame for getting hit by that book)

 

[Zantetsugun]

She likes it rough.

Kamui used "Play Rough!"
It's super effective!
Aqua "fainted."

 

[the king of murder]

According to his profile, this guy is one hell of a sadist, so this actually fits even better.

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Honestly is everyone from Nohr some sort of a crazy lunatic? I guess spending too much time in a dark atmosphere can do that to you.

Also, Camillas ability, seriously I can't decide.

 

[Tattles]

holy **** aqua

 

[IceAnt573]

I disagree. There's been nothing to suggest that Kamui can't properly control dragon form, though on the other hand there's been nothing to deny it either. But he/she grabbed Aqua around the neck, which seems like a very deliberate move. If they were truly out of control they could have just crushed Aqua's head. It seemed to me that Kamui was angry about something, maybe something that Aqua did, and now they're questioning her.

Shadowofchaos made a translation error. The part where Kamui chokes Aqua and Aqua says "You came back." It's actually suppose to be "Come back to your senses."

He fixed it in an annotation. So yes, this implies Kamui can't actually control their dragon form well.

 

[Tattles]

WHAT IS THE NAME OF BLUE HAIRED GIRL. I'M DYING. THIS IS TOO PERFECT. AND IS SHE NOHR EXLCUSIVE?

 

[Kotor]

KONO ZERO DA!

The fanart for this guy will be awesome.

His critical attack will use the road roller!

 

[Weeman]

No, that's not it. Nintendo wouldn't do that.
You have to buy amiibos to get those characters.

No, the Amiibo of said characters gives you a code, and once you use that code on the e-shop, it unlocks the Tetra and King of red Lions keys DLC for purchase. Buy these keys and use them in the 3ds version to unlock them in there.
Then once you unlock them in there, they give you a special code that lets you participate in a raffle for the limited edition Golden Tetra and King of red lions Amiibos, if you win these Amiibos they unlock the Tetra and King of red Lions DLC for purchase in the Wii U e-shop. Buy them and they unlock the Tetra and King of Red Lions costumes for Tingle.
Grind Tingle to level 99 and you unlock Tetra and the King of Red Lions on Wii U.

 

[Nah]

He fixed it in an annotation. So yes, this implies Kamui can't actually control their dragon form well.

....That's supposed to be a dragon?

 

[Pacack]

....That's supposed to be a dragon?

Yes. It appears to take design inspiration from stags as well, though.

 

[Tacticulbacon]

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[Nah]

Yes. It appears to take design inspiration from stags as well, though.

I'm seeing way more stag than dragon in that though

 

[Chapter Serf]

His critical attack will use the road roller!

So I did my first two matches of Ranked today.

First one was a back and forth slug fest on Skatepark, but eventually my team won via Knockout. I got a fair few kills in as well. The second one was absolute massacre on Underpass. We got the zone and they NEVER ONCE claimed it. We lost it once for about a half a second. I just stood on the low ground wrecking faces. Walked away with a fair number of kills and I never once had to bust out my ManPATS. Or my super jump. I never died.

Either People just really suck at C-, C level, or I'm waaaay better than I thought.

Edit: ManPATS is an acronym for Man Portable Anti-Tank System. AKA: A rocket launcher, or in my case: an Inkzooka.

 

[Mr. Johan]

The existence of Dragonite and Gyarados should be proof that dragons have been and can be designed in drastically different ways.

 

[Nah]

The existence of Dragonite and Gyarados should be proof that dragons have been and can be designed in drastically different ways.

True. I think I see now what they were going for with it. One of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qilin

 

[Zantetsugun]

Shadowofchaos made a translation error. The part where Kamui chokes Aqua and Aqua says "You came back." It's actually suppose to be "Come back to your senses."

He fixed it in an annotation. So yes, this implies Kamui can't actually control their dragon form well.

It could also imply that Kamui got so pissed off about something (presumably that Aqua did) that he/she flew off the handle so hard that she/he choke slammed Aqua into another dimension.

Honestly is everyone from Nohr some sort of a crazy lunatic? I guess spending too much time in a dark atmosphere can do that to you.

Also, Camillas ability, seriously I can't decide.

Elise is pretty normal (just peppy), and Marx is said to be very level-headed and honest.

WHAT IS THE NAME OF BLUE HAIRED GIRL. I'M DYING. THIS IS TOO PERFECT. AND IS SHE NOHR EXLCUSIVE?

Her names Pieri, and yes she is a Nohr exclusive.

Love this image.

....That's supposed to be a dragon?

Yes. It appears to take design inspiration from stags as well, though.

The existence of Dragonite and Gyarados should be proof that dragons have been and can be designed in drastically different ways.

I know that a lot of people have been saying it looks like a cross between Dialga and Xerneas, which is actually pretty accurate in my eyes. Also isn't Gyarados not a dragon type, or did it's mega make it one, I forget. Also how could you forget the least dragon-looking dragon that ever dragoned!

I mean if THIS can be called a dragon I think we can give Kamui a pass.

Feeling like @redfeatherraven responding to so many posts at once.

 

[Elezir]

....That's supposed to be a dragon?

Eh, after Breath of Fire 4, everything can become a dragon for me, so Kamui' dragon form design doesn't look strange, imo.
like, in BoF4 these were considered dragons.

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Btw, that game is Awesome.

Also, the Radiant Historia director working in that SMTxFE crossover makes more interested in the game.
Radiant Historia was pretty much a hidden gem of a rpg.

 

[Tattles]

What is Pieri's class?

 

[Zantetsugun]

What is Pieri's class?

Cavalier

 

[Nah]

Haha, yeah, just about anything is considered a dragon these days. They do vary a lot from culture to culture anyway.

@ Zantetsugun Gyarados isn't a Dragon type and neither is its mega, but iirc Magikarp and Gyarados are based offa some legend about a fish jumping over a waterfall and turning into a dragon or something like that.

 

[Zantetsugun]

Haha, yeah, just about anything is considered a dragon these days. They do vary a lot from culture to culture anyway.

@ Zantetsugun Gyarados isn't a Dragon type and neither is its mega, but iirc Magikarp and Gyarados are based offa some legend about a fish jumping over a waterfall and turning into a dragon or something like that.

Okay thanks. I knew that Gyarados was considered kind of an "honorary" dragon since Lance is all about them, but I forgot if it got the Mega Charizard X treatment with it's mega.

 

[Tectrix]

So I also found this replay which I titled "Best Book Kill" and checked into it. Well I think it's certainly my most creative one.
http://gfycat.com/IndelibleHardtofindAlleycat

Mark my words, the Robin books metagame will be the 20XX of smash 4.

 

[Tattles]

I was absolutely, no contest going to start with Hoshido for very good reason, but now with Pieri being revealed it's actually going to be a much harder decision which game I start off with.

 

[Mr. Johan]

Gyarados is based on the Chinese legend that claims that any salmon that swims upstream and up a waterfall, through an archway at the top of that waterfall, are transformed into serpentine dragons.

The method to evolve Magikarp in Pokemon Snap, and a Pokemon episode confirm the inspiration.

The only reason Gyarados is not Water/Dragon is because at the time of RBY, Gyarados would have no weaknesses (since Dragon Rage was the only Dragon move at the time), on top of having a massive HP stat, Attack stat, and adequate Defense and Special stats. Making it Water/Flying is the intended weakness for it as it then has weaknesses to Electric and Rock moves to take advantage of.

 

[FalKoopa]

Gyarados is based on the Chinese legend that claims that any salmon that swims upstream and up a waterfall, through an archway at the top of that waterfall, are transformed into serpentine dragons.

*Carp, actually. That's why we got Magikarp.

 

[Pacack]

I'm seeing way more stag than dragon in that though

Looking at some historical references, here's what I found:

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Chinese Dragon seems to be a more concrete inspiration for Kamui's design, not Japanese ones. Let me quote Wikipedia on this one.

Ancient Chinese self-identify as 'the descendants of the dragon' because the Chinese dragon is an imagined reptile that is the evolution ancestor of humans and other common animals.[11] From its origins as totems or the stylized depiction of natural creatures, the Chinese dragon evolved to become a mythical animal. The Han Dynasty scholar Wang Fu recorded Chinese myths that long dragons had nine anatomical resemblances.

The people paint the dragon's shape with a horse's head and a snake's tail. Further, there are expressions as 'three joints' and 'nine resemblances' (of the dragon), to wit: from head to shoulder, from shoulder to breast, from breast to tail. These are the joints; as to the nine resemblances, they are the following: his antlers resemble those of a stag, his head that of a camel, his eyes those of a demon, his neck that of a snake, his belly that of a clam (shen, 蜃), his scales those of a carp, his claws those of an eagle, his soles those of a tiger, his ears those of a cow. Upon his head he has a thing like a broad eminence (a big lump), called [chimu] (尺木). If a dragon has no [chimu], he cannot ascend to the sky.[12]
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Further sources give variant lists of the nine animal resemblances. Sinologist Henri Doré lists these characteristics of an authentic dragon: "The antlers of a deer. The head of a crocodile. A demon's eyes. The neck of a snake. A tortoise's viscera. A hawk's claws. The palms of a tiger. A cow's ears. And it hears through its horns, its ears being deprived of all power of hearing."[13] He notes that, "Others state it has a rabbit's eyes, a frog's belly, a carp's scales."
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The antlers are consistent throughout historical accounts, although Kamui is obviously an amalgamation of many types of dragons. The Chinese, however, are the only ones who have antlered dragons as a part of their description of dragons, so there must be a connection there. Here are some illustrations that look similar:


That said, I don't think he's based off of a "dragon" technically at all. I think he's based off of the Qilin(Kirin in Japan), a chimerical creature that, while not technically a dragon, has aspects of one.

Qilin generally have Chinese dragon-like features. Most notably their heads, eyes with thick eyelashes, manes that always flow upward and beards. The bodies are fully or partially scaled, though often shaped like an ox, deer or horse's, and always with cloven hooves. In modern times, the depictions of qilin have often fused with the Western concept of unicorns.​

I'm actually leaning heavily towards this, because of two things. One, the design of Kamui, which is already more similar to the Qilin historically, makes even more sense when cues are taken from giraffes, as the Chinese believed giraffes to actually be Qilin when they first encountered them.

The Japanese Kirin actually even drawn more deerlike, which is even more telling.

Combine that with the mythos behind the qilin:

• Although they can look fearsome, qilin only punish the wicked, thus there are several variations of court trials and judgements based on qilin divinely knowing whether a defendant was good or evil, and guilty or innocent, in ancient lore and stories.

• In Buddhist influenced depictions, they will refuse to walk upon grass for fear of harming a single blade, and thus are often depicted walking upon the clouds or the water. As they are divine and peaceful creature, their diets do not include flesh. They take great care when they walk to never tread on a living creature, and appear only in areas ruled by a wise and benevolent leader, which can include a household. They can become fierce if a pure person is threatened by a malicious one, spouting flames from their mouths and exercising other fearsome powers that vary from story to story.

• Some stories state that qilin are sacred pets (or familiars) of the deities. Therefore, in the hierarchy of dances performed by the Chinese (lion dance, dragon dance, etc.), they ranks highly; third only to the dragon and phoenix who are the highest. In the qilin dance, movements are characterized by fast, powerful strokes of the head. The Qilin Dance is often regarded as a hard dance to perform due to the weight of the head, the stances involved, and the emphasis on sudden bursts of energy (Chinese: t 法勁, s 法劲, p fǎjìn).

• In the Post-Qin Chinese hierarchy of mythological animals, the qilin is ranked as the third most powerful creature (after the dragon and phoenix), but in Japan, the kirin occupies the top spot.

So it punishes the wicked and delivers judgement, is divine and peaceful, protects the pure from the innocent, has a connection with dances, and is the most powerful creature in the hierarchy of Japan.

Coincidence?

 

[Mr. Johan]

Except that Magikarp is based on koi fish, hence Koiking.

Carp was just used for the name for the phonetic satisfaction.

 

[FalKoopa]

Except that Magikarp is based on koi fish, hence Koiking.

Carp was just used for the name for the phonetic satisfaction.

That's odd... as the legend definitely mentions a carp, not a koi. I guess that makes the English name more accurate, unusually.

 

[Pacack]

Except that Magikarp is based on koi fish, hence Koiking.

Carp was just used for the name for the phonetic satisfaction.

A koi is literally just a colorful carp.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koi

 

[shrooby]

A koi is literally just a colorful carp.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koi

Koi is literally the Japanese word for carp.

 

[Pacack]

Koi is literally the Japanese word for carp.

I forgot about that, but you're 100% right.

 

[FalKoopa]

Who would have thought that the topic about Kamui would devolve into talking about carps and Magikarp?

 

[Chapter Serf]

Who would have thought that the topic about Kamui would devolve into talking about carps and Magikarp?

Welcome to the Robin Social Thread.

 

[Deleted member]

According to his profile, this guy is one hell of a sadist, so this actually fits even better.

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>Name is Zero.
>Is a sadist.

Welp he's already on my list of favorite characters