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Tiki, the Divine Dragon, Falls into Slumber.

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andimidna

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Trying uploading it on the Imgur site, then copying the image to this thread.
I don't know what that means :p

So I held my Mac sideways and used photobooth to take a picture of the paper
And made it my avatar/picture
I'm not a tech guy :p but I'm learnin'...

I don't know what that means :p

So I held my Mac sideways and used photobooth to take a picture of the paper
And made it my avatar/picture
I'm not a tech guy :p but I'm learnin'...
EDIT: I'll try on my phone some day, but for now, I'm changing it.

ACTUAL EDIT: Why did my original EDIT not EDIT? But instead replied?!

Where did everybody go? :o
Come back and look how cute Young Tiki is!
 
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Please do not triple post.
 

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I support young Tiki because she's more iconic to me, and also because I like the contrast between a little girl and a large, powerful dragon.
 

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The only character other than Tiki I could think of that could use both fire and ice attacks has been confirmed a stage hazard. :D
I think this supports her inclusion a bit. If Sakurai is thinking about uniqueness, and focusing on movesets, he could have easily developed Rosalina and Luma's moveset and given it to Ashley and Red, although I'm glad they didn't. What do you guys think about Twinrova being a stage hazard, and Koume being able to burn down bridges? Sounds epic to me.
 

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I support young Tiki because she's more iconic to me, and also because I like the contrast between a little girl and a large, powerful dragon.
Added. :)


There were a few ideas I had for a down special/counter which borrow ideas from my Chrom/Robin duo and Hong's moveset.

I do like Hong's envisionment of Counter utilizing a flower and hitting both sides so all iterations stated will involve that.

Borrowing from the Chrom/Robin moveset, Tiki would activate counter and upon successfully countering an attack she would be able to transform to dragon/humanoid form depending on which form she performed counter. This would be the only way she could transform when compared to Zelda/Pokemon Trainer who can switch characters on the fly.

Another idea could be to tie the transformation to a taunt, this frees up moveslots for characters like Zelda/Sheik as well as Pokemon Trainer.

Though I personally think a combination of the two would be better but to exclude Tiki from the second one, this way it makes her transformation a little more unique.

In addition to this I would like to bring up a mechanic I mentioned a long time ago about stock matches in which you can choose your roster.

For example, if I play a three stock match I can lead with Fox while having Ridley and Little Mac on reserve, the only way to switch is for a character to be KO-ed. Now why does this matter?

Well if we utilize a moveset in which Tiki's transform is not tied to her Final Smash this brings up a lot of counter-play options if the opponents she faces are changing.

For one match-up it might be advantageous for her to fight Fox in humanoid form as opposed to her slower, larger, and more easily comboed dragon form. Likewise there may be match-ups in which her dragon form will be preferred over her humanoid form, for instance if her dragon form has an incredible aerial game it might be a stronger match up against Little Mac who supposedly has a medicore aerial game. This brings more of an incentive to choose both/all forms as opposed to sticking to one for any character that can transform/switch.
 
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These ideas all sound too awesome for Sakurai to use. ; ;

Adhering strictly to Tiki, though, it's at least good to see they are reaching for more iconic characters in these recent updates. Even if they're all unplayable.
 

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Lol, you added me twice. I was just joining in on the conversation on which version of Tiki people prefer.
 

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Lol, you added me twice. I was just joining in on the conversation on which version of Tiki people prefer.
Double the support for double the success.



Check the music in the OP, two seem to be taken down for copyright infringement, and the other two link to the same song.
Should be fixed, thanks for checking! Added a few more songs, if anyone has more suggestions to add/remove songs let me know (Especially for Shadow Dragon and Mystery of the Emblem, I haven't played either :( ).
 

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So, how big do you guys think Tiki's dragon form should be in smash?
 

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Sounds canonically right. There might be a concern about balancing such a large character, but her ability to change into human form could fix that.
 

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Sounds canonically right. There might be a concern about balancing such a large character, but her ability to change into human form could fix that.
I imagine the large, dragon form would use projectiles for the most part to try to keep the opponent away from her large frame, while her human(oid) form would use more close-combat kind of stuff.
 

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Sign me up. Just when I thought I had my most wanted FE rep with Robin... *sigh* ......., For some reason I've slowly been liking Tiki more as a character (in FE) over the last week, probably too much Awakening. And now I'm torn between who I want more.............WHY CANT WE GET BOTH! T-T
 

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Sign me up. Just when I thought I had my most wanted FE rep with Robin... *sigh* ......., For some reason I've slowly been liking Tiki more as a character (in FE) over the last week, probably too much Awakening. And now I'm torn between who I want more.............WHY CANT WE GET BOTH! T-T
...you and me...we are like one.
 

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...you and me...we are like one.
And now Tiki is slowly....... Oh who am I kidding she already got to the top of my favorite character list yesterday when I started a new file just to get together with her. I want Tiki and Robin now...........
I am you and you are me.
 
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I am you and you are me.
And I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.

Also, I personally support Robin more than Tiki, but I'd love to see either one. It's just that I find Robin much more likely.
 
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And I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.

Also, I personally support Robin more than Tiki, but I'd love to see either one. It's just that I find Robin much more likely.
We are one. I am his future self and you are my future self which also makes you his future self.
I know but I can dream can't I. I'll be fine with either one, and I want both of them, if she can't get in as a character I at least want her as an Assist Trophy.
 
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I'm not sure why, but I think that I might like this one better than the official art...I don't know why that is, but I really do.
Same here, there's just something about it.......
 

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We are one. I am his future self and you are my future self which also makes you his future self.
"I know where I came from - but where did all you zombies come from?"

Come on, someone has to get my obscure sci-fi short story reference...

I know but I can dream can't I. I'll be fine with either one, and I want both of them, if she can't get in as a character I at least want her as an Assist Trophy.
I would absolutely love to see her as an Assist Trophy, and I think she has a very good shot at that, if nothing else.
 

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Maybe it's the lack of unnecessary fan service?
Maybe, I just like everything about this picture but can't figure out why, maybe it's the colors and background, either way it looks amazing.
"I know where I came from - but where did all you zombies come from?"

Come on, someone has to get my obscure sci-fi short story reference...


I would absolutely love to see her as an Assist Trophy, and I think she has a very good shot at that, if nothing else.
Yeah, she deserves to get into the game in some form. Oh, and "All You Zombies" by Robert Heinlein. Wish I could say I actually knew that without Google but I'd be lying, but now my mind is blown.
 
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Tiki is being rated in the Uniqueness Tier List thread today! We all know she's very unique, so more scores will only help her! Get her to the S tier!
 

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Alright... bumping to let everybody know...

TIKI will be rated today in the Rate Their Chances thread!!!!

We will rate her in chance and want!!!
 

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I can't imagine that her reception is going to go well in her favor, most people will write her off as an Assist Trophy at best or will state that she is outclassed by the competition which is namely Roy, Chrom, Robin, and a Chrom duo. And as far as an Assist Trophy goes I feel as though the infamous Triangle Attack would be the best option by the likes of Palla, Catria, and Est.

What I truly want for our third Fire Emblem character is something special, and I find it somewhat unfortunate that the front-runner (Chrom) heavily relies on Lucina or Robin to pull it off while Robin feels outclassed by Isaac in many ways.

Roy on one hand could do something special given the unique properties of his sword, but even after reading through many of the suggestions to change him I still find it much less appealing than a character who can transform into a Manakete.

I actually once dreamt of a Chrom and Tiki duo, now whether or not that crazy idea will come to fruition is beyond me but it would certainly be quite the spectacle nonetheless.
 

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I can't imagine that her reception is going to go well in her favor, most people will write her off as an Assist Trophy at best or will state that she is outclassed by the competition which is namely Roy, Chrom, Robin, and a Chrom duo. And as far as an Assist Trophy goes I feel as though the infamous Triangle Attack would be the best option by the likes of Palla, Catria, and Est.

What I truly want for our third Fire Emblem character is something special, and I find it somewhat unfortunate that the front-runner (Chrom) heavily relies on Lucina or Robin to pull it off while Robin feels outclassed by Isaac in many ways.

Roy on one hand could do something special given the unique properties of his sword, but even after reading through many of the suggestions to change him I still find it much less appealing than a character who can transform into a Manakete.

I actually once dreamt of a Chrom and Tiki duo, now whether or not that crazy idea will come to fruition is beyond me but it would certainly be quite the spectacle nonetheless.
It's no crazier than my idea of an Anna and Tiki duo :D

Did you rate her yet? She could use another high want. She was about at a 50% want last time I checked.

I didn't check her chance.

My ideal assist is also Palla, Catria, and Est!
 
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Well gg guys watching the Direct she's only a trophy.
 

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Tiki would've been a cool character, but she was a long shot.

A trophy is better than nothing, at least.
 

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We stayed realistic, right everyone?
 
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Lyn and Tiki.

Is it just me or is that a good Tiki and Say'ri reference? Anyway Tiki looks amazing.
 

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Look at the bright side, Tiki being shown as a trophy means there is a decent chance she may be an AT or something as well.
 
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