throw.dair spamming Ness

[Darkman.exe213]

Hey guys, I've been playing a Ness player who does pretty much nothing but spam dair for combos and grab/throw --> dair for a finisher. I main Yoshi and Captain Falcon. What are my options for stopping him?(Ness's aerials have too much priority....) Thanks.

 

[rpotts]

I don't use Yoshi so I'm not sure if this will work, but when he is above you, getting ready to dair, try to DJC uair, since yoshi is invulnerable in his double jump. At the least you will tie.
With falcon, use pivot fsmash or pivot usmash. Like dash out of the way of his dair, then dash back and usmash or fthrow -> uair and start a combo.

Also, use kirby and use utilt, it has even higher priority than ness' aerials.

EDIT: Also, remember to tech roll when he dairs you, otherwise you will bounce off the ground and be vulnerable to another dair.

 

[HiddenElf22]

EDIT: Also, remember to tech roll when he dairs you, otherwise you will bounce off the ground and be vulnerable to another dair.

Do that. Also as flacon you gotta out throw him. Get that forward throw in and punish him with crazy combos. Stay away from the edge with him as his throws will throw you very far. Learn to predict his dair spike when you are recovering, and change up your recovering pattern. As yoshi, always keep moving. DJC nairs like a mofo, and utilt when you think he's going for the dair.

 

[SheerMadness]

I main Yoshi too. My biggest problem with Ness is when they get uptilt happy. For whatever reason Ness' uptilt beats all of Yoshi's aerials.

Anyway what I do is use Yoshi's neutral b a lot. It has enough range to keep me safe from the uptilt, annoys the **** out of them, and can rack up a lot of damage. It basically forces them to change their playstyle and approach.

 

[NixxxoN]

Use mario and spam fireballs over him, works so well agaisnt ness

OR

Use falcon and use up smash to counter his dair and then combo him

both of them work well

 

[asianaussie]

Pivot F-Smash for Falcon. His leg is really long :D
Or just keep him in a combo. F-Air works wonders.

For Yoshi, pivot F-Smash is also an option. I would personally space a little and start approaches with DJC, but my Yoshi isn't exactly great.

 

[Lawrencelot]

Can't you just jump higher and dair him yourself? As long as he's not using uair or uptilt that should work. If he uses both then go for the falcon upsmash, and with yoshi... maybe dash attack.

 

[Deleted member]

bait them into doing an up-tilt, run in and punish. 85% of bad nesses will up-tilt if you do an aerial and land next to them

if they down-air spam for no reason just punish them as soon as they land


and don't up-tilt with yoshi against ness unless you want your head stomped in, very risky

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

bait them into doing an up-tilt, run in and punish. 85% of bad nesses will up-tilt if you do an aerial and land next to them

True that, empty shorthops also mindf**k bad ness players. I have a whole strategy around it with falcon, but when I play a good ness player I get pretty badly owned, since most ness players I play are online and suck.

 

[Superstar]

Ness's utilt is so overrated.

DJC uairs are where it's at. Land one, and then you can utilt, or do more uairs if you wish. 3 consecutive DJC uairs is so easy to land on someone like Falcon.

 

[NixxxoN]

Ness's utilt is so overrated.

DJC uairs are where it's at. Land one, and then you can utilt, or do more uairs if you wish. 3 consecutive DJC uairs is so easy to land on someone like Falcon.

Yeah, perfect DJC uair spam is totally broken. If you can do it fast enough (I mean, impossibly fast) you would hardly lose

 

[Superstar]

That, and you get a lot of mobility with it. The main problem with utilt is lack of mobility, but with DJC uairs, Ness has a...decent...approach.

And it combos even better. utilt is just easy to do and lasts long.

 

[MarioReincarnate]

i would listen to sheer... swallowing opponents is more fun anyway

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

if ness was just coming toward me with djc uairs constantly I would just Fsmash them XD

 

[Superstar]

And if Ness was just coming toward you with utilts constantly I think you'd laugh and Fsmash them the same.

Obviously you don't spam uairs.