This stuff is CRAZY

[gunterrsmash01]

before i move on, i'd like to point out a couple of things

-its legal
-its safe (use with caution, though)

heres the website - www.i-doser.com

Basically, its a program which plays back soundwaves and they have drug like effects to them. So you pick the sound Marijuana, put on the headphones sit back for about 30 minutes while the soundwaves play (its just a simple static noise, low or high depending on the drug). when your done, supposedly its like you just took marijuana. You'll feel energetic and such. It might sound like a bad idea to you, but its not harmful, infact some of the sounds are actually very helpful. There is one to help relieve headaches, hangovers and such. One i like alot is only 5 minutes long and is useful when you have just woken up because it wakes you up and fills you with energy. However, some of the sounds are just horrible (god's hand, black sunshine). They make you depressed and you can hallucinate. you can check some videos out at youtube, the program is called I-Doser.

also, i have the program if someone is seriously interested. so just tell me if you want it.

 

[Falco&Victory]

Dude.... f**k myspace. I want this inside me.

 

[Ensee]

Can you send this to me? Sounds so crazy, I want to try it out.

 

[Matt]

http://www.litmuszine.com/stereolab/5.29.07.html

Bubble BURSTED.

 

[Lixivium]

This has SCAM and/or PLACEBO EFFECT written all over it.

I just tried downloading their sample (Alcohol and Content); doesn't even work.

 

[gunterrsmash01]

What bubble?

all that guy was doing was stating a couple of facts about the program and that it didnt work for him.

Believe what you want, but i know it works. of course its not nearly as powerful as a REAL drug. but its still pretty cool

 

[gunterrsmash01]

its not placebo, it worked on 2 of my friends. Believe what u want.... and if your worried that its a scam i can always just send it to u to try it out....

 

[gunterrsmash01]

and seriously, at first my friend took the marijuana one and started goofin off, but we didnt fall for it, he was tryin to fool us. BUT ,later on he actually started getting sleepy, about 10 mins after. So, maybe the marijuana/alchohol ones dont work, but there are very intense ones in the full version.

 

[GoldShadow]

http://www.litmuszine.com/stereolab/5.29.07.html

Bubble BURSTED.

QFT!!!

Believe me, this stuff does not really work. This myth has been stamped with the "GoldShadow Seal of Falsity".

 

[x4FoSho4x]

and seriously, at first my friend took the marijuana one and started goofin off, but we didnt fall for it, he was tryin to fool us. BUT ,later on he actually started getting sleepy, about 10 mins after. So, maybe the marijuana/alchohol ones dont work, but there are very intense ones in the full version.

which ones are intense?

 

[Sizzle]

A friend of mine had something he called Binaural Beats, this sounds just like it. I called him one time while he was "under the influence" of one of them and it seemed like he was actually on something. From the inability to realize what I was saying, to the tone of his voice, it had done something. Thats just my little experience with it.

 

[gunterrsmash01]

which ones are intense?

all i know of right now is Hand of god, and black sunshine.

edit: if it doesnt work on u, remember u need good headphones for this

 

[Crimson King]

edit: if it doesnt work on u, remember u need good headphones for this

Yep, my high-end noise canceling ear phones aren't good enough for this tripe. It's psychosomatic at best. You read the effects, you know what you want to experience, and thus you will. I don't drink, do drugs, or smoke; therefore, if the effects are real, I would experience something new and amazing to me, correct? Show me the best, free one, I can get with marked effects and I'll tell you exactly if it's real or not.

 

[Xsyven]

This has to be psychosomatic.

Its the same as all those stories you hear about people secretly giving giving non-alchoholic beer to the stupid girl at a party, and watching her think she's drunk.

 

[Illos]

Are these like binaural beats?

 

[garett]

it sounds nice. I want it

 

[gunterrsmash01]

Yep, my high-end noise canceling ear phones aren't good enough for this tripe. It's psychosomatic at best. You read the effects, you know what you want to experience, and thus you will. I don't drink, do drugs, or smoke; therefore, if the effects are real, I would experience something new and amazing to me, correct? Show me the best, free one, I can get with marked effects and I'll tell you exactly if it's real or not.

I really, really did not make this thread to confirm is this is working or not, because I know from personal experiences and others that this works. I just thought I could tell the community about it.

 

[GoldShadow]

Again, it's "psychosomatic", which means it's all in your head (and others' heads").

 

[omfgomfg]

I tried this stuff and it is a bunch of weird noises. Others are melodies. The actual product i-doser. From errr rapidshare.. It did not work for me.
So if you really want a bunch of weird noises just go to the city.

 

[Crimson King]

Initial Review (1 full, conscious dose):

Dose - Peyote
Duration - 35 minutes
Effects: Zilch. I listened to this one fully expecting to be hallucinogenic and I got nothing out of it. My prescription sleeping pills gives me hallucinations if I fight the effects so I kinda had an idea what to expect. The only thing close to feeling anything was my hands tingled, and I think that was psychosomatic. At one point if I focused on one tone I got a bit lost in it, but nothing to write home about.
Conclusion: Undetermined. I could somewhat feel the effects, but nothing severe. This was labeled as VERY STRONG and not for newer people, which is why I chose it. If indeed, it's that strong, my head should be spinning.

Tomorrow or so, I'll try 4 more and give a better review. I have a ton I found online so I will try the harder stuff to get some effects.

 

[x4FoSho4x]

I was expecting better. lol. Nothing, but I havn't tried all of it. Well see.

 

[a1j2h5]

Just downloaded it er....... legally. Have my doubts, but I guess its like hypnosis, it doesn't work on everyone. Tell you my 'experience' in a few minuets.

 

[cF=)]

Nobody makes sense here, especially people who call 'Placebo effect' on this, and go out testing it after endorsing the mentality it won't work. Wake up, that's also a Placebo ! The ones who say it works are being influenced by what they read and act along, I agree, but those who say it's all psychosomatic have absolutely no testing value whatsoever.

Bottom line: Everybody's biased, stop arguing uselessly.

 

[GoldShadow]

Nobody makes sense here, especially people who call 'Placebo effect' on this, and go out testing it after endorsing the mentality it won't work. Wake up, that's also a Placebo ! The ones who say it works are being influenced by what they read and act along, I agree, but those who say it's all psychosomatic have absolutely no testing value whatsoever.

What are you talking about? If the ones who say it's just psychosomatic test it, it is valid. Because if it really works, then it will induce an actual, physical, physiological change in mental status; ie, it will get you "high" or whatever, regardless of whether you think it works or not.

For example, let's say I have a bottle of aspirin, but I believe its effects are only psychosomatc; I don't think it really works.

So I ingest two tablets to see what all the fuss is about. It is still going to work; my blood will have less clotting ability. Pain sensation will be dulled. It will reduce inflammation. It will lower a fever if I have one.

Regardless of what I "believe" it does.

 

[_kSo_]

This has to be psychosomatic.

Its the same as all those stories you hear about people secretly giving giving non-alchoholic beer to the stupid girl at a party, and watching her think she's drunk.

i like doing that

 

[Crimson King]

Nobody makes sense here, especially people who call 'Placebo effect' on this, and go out testing it after endorsing the mentality it won't work. Wake up, that's also a Placebo ! The ones who say it works are being influenced by what they read and act along, I agree, but those who say it's all psychosomatic have absolutely no testing value whatsoever.

Bottom line: Everybody's biased, stop arguing uselessly.

Yay, that's completely wrong. If it IS a placebo, it won't work for people who know it's a placebo. If it's not, then it will. Simple as that. Fact is, I felt very little of anything while experiencing it. With Peyote I just felt a slight dryness in my throat and slight tingling in my hands. This was all psychosomatic because I thought that's how you are supposed to feel when high. I have NEVER been high or drunk and I usually avoid people who are, so I have very little knowledge on how you are supposed to act. If after 5 doses, I feel nothing different, then obviously, it's a hoax and a scam.

 

[Eor]

Indeed, this is useless. I downloaded these from a torrent website, and never had any experience. Not even on the normal ones, like French Roast. The only one that seemed to work was the sleep one, and thats just because the song is slow and steady, and you're suppose to listen to it while your eyes are closed. I could just turn on any other song I have to "induce" sleep like that.

 

[Crimson King]

I think the worst thing about it is that it costs from 3.25 onward for doses with no insurance of it working. It's like an infomercial scam.

 

[Wave⁂]

****... if I could make money just by making a sound file, I'd do that.

Spoiler

But not really.

Who the hell came up with that?

 

[gunterrsmash01]

must i stress that this DOES NOT WORK ON EVERYBODY?

i dont think its placebo. Opium made my friend pass out.
Obviously it does something, placebo might help, but these sounds activate your brain cells.
I just took quick happy, and everytime my worries come to me i ignore them. French Roast is supposed to make you awake.

By the way you are supposed to be relaxed and have your eyes closed when doing any of the doses.
Let the sound overcome you

 

[cF=)]

Yay, that's completely wrong. If it IS a placebo, it won't work for people who know it's a placebo. If it's not, then it will. Simple as that. Fact is, I felt very little of anything while experiencing it. With Peyote I just felt a slight dryness in my throat and slight tingling in my hands. This was all psychosomatic because I thought that's how you are supposed to feel when high. I have NEVER been high or drunk and I usually avoid people who are, so I have very little knowledge on how you are supposed to act. If after 5 doses, I feel nothing different, then obviously, it's a hoax and a scam.

Sigh...

How come you're the one judging the truthfulness of this program when you never ever experienced at least the real effects of a drug ? You can't say 'this sound is 67% the amount of feeling I have when I take MDMA' nor can you even understand how near you are from a real drug feeling if you don't have previous knowledge about it.

Yes, it's some sort of placebo, because it's possible to fight a mental status induced by a drug. Don't want your aspirin to work ? Still believe you have a headache, and it'll remain. As simple as that. Of course, having psylocibin molecules in your brain will NEVER be the same has listening to some soundwaves, but like I already said, how can you make the difference when you don't know what it looks like in the first place ?

EDIT: I myself think it IS a hoax even if I did not even looked at the website yet.The only thing I claim is that the way you're testing it is wrong. That's all.

 

[Crimson King]

Sigh...

How come you're the one judging the truthfulness of this program when you never ever experienced at least the real effects of a drug ? You can't say 'this sound is 67% the amount of feeling I have when I take MDMA' nor can you even understand how near you are from a real drug feeling if you don't have previous knowledge about it.

The site itself claims you need to have never taken a drug to feel the effects. If I have to get drunk to experience it, forget about it.

 

[cF=)]

The site itself claims you need to have never taken a drug to feel the effects.

The sentence that changes everything, screw I-doser.

 

[Crimson King]

The sentence that changes everything, screw I-doser.

It's not a quote, but they do state that users of iDoser have claimed to kick the drug habit of recreational drugs and a few other things that say this product replaces drugs.

 

[GoldShadow]

Yes, it's some sort of placebo, because it's possible to fight a mental status induced by a drug. Don't want your aspirin to work ? Still believe you have a headache, and it'll remain.

By that logic, every medication ever produced and every clinical trial carried out is invalid.
Obviously, conscious state of mind can affect how you feel (in relation to taking a substance that is known to work), but only to a certain extent.

 

[Crimson King]

So, since Diapers thinks that I have to have smoked, snorted, or drank something before to truly understand the affects, I took French Roast, which is nothing more than like drinking coffee. It states it will take you from dead asleep to mid-day alertness.

Here goes:
Dose: French Roast
Duration: 5 Minutes
Effects: Nadda. In fact, I was actually MORE tired afterwards. I took it so I could be alert to study more, hoping and believing I'd be wide awake. No go. In fact, I almost feel asleep instantly, after the dose. I guess I have to take speed pills to understand the effects of this one then.

 

[Silent_Jester]

Can a mod close this already? Its a advertisment, spam, con, and drug dealing. (If it actually works)

 

[cF=)]

By that logic, every medication ever produced and every clinical trial carried out is invalid.

That's not really what I meant. Drugs are somewhat different than prescribed medication.

Spoiler

For some people, 2g of mush will equal a really good hallucinogenic trip, while some others will barely feel their feet lifting off

. I know these differences are not as observable in medication, mostly because one dosage will have the same effect on everybody, considering the brain spot it's aimed at.

So, since Diapers thinks that I have to have smoked, snorted, or drank something before to truly understand the affects, I took French Roast, which is nothing more than like drinking coffee. It states it will take you from dead asleep to mid-day alertness.

Here goes:
Dose: French Roast
Duration: 5 Minutes
Effects: Nadda. In fact, I was actually MORE tired afterwards. I took it so I could be alert to study more, hoping and believing I'd be wide awake. No go. In fact, I almost feel asleep instantly, after the dose. I guess I have to take speed pills to understand the effects of this one then.

Because I'm a skeptical guy, I tried the program today and did the same dose. I remained the same person, had the same state of mind and even if my knowledge of speed is limited, there were no significant alteration on my body or spirit.

A wasted 10 minutes of my life.

EDIT: I'm using spoiler tags to keep this website PG.

 

[Crimson King]

Did you read the little description of the dose? It tells you you could go from sleeping to wide awake with this stuff. Part of me REALLY wishes it'd work.

 

[cF=)]

"This dose takes you from an existing state of blah to a normal mid-day condition of awake." - iDoser's web store.

I guess I'll still be using wake-ups and coffee.