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This is how you grab behind you easier.

Velox

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I found this by accident, makes sense though, worthy enough to post. It's not anything new, but now anyone can grab behind them 100% frame perfect every time like Ken/M2K.

What you do is you just pivot in place and then grab. It works by the same theory (well... sort of) that the walk -> pivot behind you and grab works. I actually discovered this while I was chain grabbing Fox with the walking pivot. I thought, "You know... why don't I use this technique to just grab behind me in place?", and of course, it works wonders for your consistence.

Just thought some people would find this interesting. For those of you that instantly fall asleep at the first sign of pivoting, this technique takes almost no practice and you will be off and running (or grabbing). It's really nothing to write off as a useless flashy technique.

The whole point is that I think it's easier to do consistent than the slow perfect timing technique used by most, not that this technique is actually faster (other than it being easier to do frame-perfect.)

Notice I didn't call this anything stupid, because really, it's not even worth a name. I wouldn't even call it a technique really, the only thing different is you use the pivot flick to perform the grab instead of a slow(er) horizontal movement of the joystick.
 

Shai Hulud

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hahaha the marth forums are funny. walking pivots? In place pivots? you mean TURNING AROUND?

Congrats on discovering this super advanced tech.
 

Velox

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Scoff all you want, turning around and then grabbing is a common mess up even amongst professionals.

It's not just turning around. It's turning around with confidence that you will do it frame perfect every time without even thinking about it.

When you are playing a high pressure game Shai Hulud, with lots of pressure and you are very nervous, any player will be glad to know this mentality for a mistake free game.


And dude, my god the Fox forums are funny. All I would have to do in there is make a topic with the title, "Look at my double shines OMG!!!" and it would get flocked with 20 pages in 1 day. Listen to what you're saying. Although the Marth room is by no means the pinnacle of character specific rooms, it's not that bad.
 

princetoma

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well its hard to turn around grab. especially chain grabbing fox. i agree with silent wolf by just standing turn around jump cancel i almost had it profiecent.
 

Shai Hulud

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How in the hell is this hard? You press a direction on the control stick and hit Z.

And yes Velox, the Fox forums are funny in their own right. Every forum is funny for different reasons--the Fox forums because of a bunch of noobs trying to prove they're technical, the Marth forums because of people making threads about discovering the TURNING AROUND technique, seven years into the game.

princetoma, you don't have to JC grab if you aren't dashing or CCing. God...
 

princetoma

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How in the hell is this hard? You press a direction on the control stick and hit Z.

And yes Velox, the Fox forums are funny in their own right. Every forum is funny for different reasons--the Fox forums because of a bunch of noobs trying to prove they're technical, the Marth forums because of people making threads about discovering the TURNING AROUND technique, seven years into the game.

princetoma, you don't have to JC grab if you aren't dashing or CCing. God...
its easier for me to keep chaingrabbing fox many people i see use it specially some the proffesional marth players.
 

Velox

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well its hard to turn around grab. especially chain grabbing fox. i agree with silent wolf by just standing turn around jump cancel i almost had it profiecent.
That's not even what Silent Wolf said... ...

Shai, haha I C ur point. This thread is still useful enough though even though it sounds crazy, because nobody else makes useful topics like this. I know you were messing around anyway (at the Marth boards being the worst part on these boards part that is).

Also, I think Silent Wolf needs to get his Sheena avatar back. He used to be cool.
 

Brookman

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Yo SW I fcking love Black Jack.

Pivoting is vital to CG, as opposed to just turning around, or running one way then back and JC grabbing (jump frames slow down grab speed)
 

Sariku

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If I'm in front of them, I dash dance behind them and do a jump-canceled grab. If I get the feeling I'm gonna get attacked, I dash dance forward some, to dodge the attack, then run to them and jump-cancel grab.
 
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