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Could you be less cryptic for the benefit of people who don't have access to Bessie's Complete Mafia Archives?
Oh yeah, eliminating someone with zero interactions worked so well for town the last time. Definitely do that again.
How did you know immediately that BoomFrog was scum?Chaco : how did you know immediately that wam was scum?
The two are not the same. wam is always scum.
What do you find disappointing?
Okay, guess I'm The Watson now: what does "HBC" mean in this context?
I've just gone ahead and come to terms that every game will have some weird starting thing. Its pretty fun if you just embrace it.
Cause it’s more pertinent for me to sort Boom quicker. I have a good grasp of BoomFrog, sans ambiguous play at end of Kary’s game, and feel that’s a quick route to a town clear for me/or scum catch from higher pressure entrance. Mala will be easier to read under pressure basically, two wagons diverge and gotta pick one.
Hard Body Crew
Hard Body Crew. Like the tag at the start of frozen flame, Dark Horse and Kary's names. Famed for suddenly yeeting people out of no where. As was discussed D2 last game regarding the sudden yeet of Mercuri.
if you’re asking me to judge between the person who hasn’t posted yet (malakandra) and the person who has only posted an rvs vote on him (boom frog), I guess I’d have to go with boom frog.
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#HBC | FrozeηFlame
, already telling of Mala who’s a new player and feels absolutely zero pressure. Town indicative of them.
Since when is that your philosophy?
Oh, you poor summer child.
It felt like you laid down an rvs vote at a time where people were starting to move past rvs. What are your thoughts on things since then?
I mean the guy was told to vote of the top two wagons and just goes "sure" with a naked vote. I don't think it's crazy to want to hear more about what made him choose between the two. Before pythag voted he and gorf were two slots who were present in the thread but weren't focusing on either of the top wagons so I wanted to hear more about how they felt about these wagons. I gave chaco a pass because I thought he was asking gamesolve-y questions.
I want to see some more content first before coming to this conclusion.See
I'm not sure I follow this. How does the lady statement follow from the previous ones?
they've had little to no interaction in thread yet, which is unsurprising considering the game has been open for under 24 hours. as far as I can see they have not meaningfully interacted at all such that they'd have any reason to be buddying each other at this point. this is not a slam dunk by any means but I found it to be a very surprising page 1 connection that I wanted people to take note of. Kary pushes pythag to make a move, DH comes in immediately after with the natural followup question which could readily be explained by scum chat coordination to poke at pythag early. not at all saying thats what happened, obviously it could be two townies looking to pressure the same slot and DH just was able to intuit what the point of forcing pythag to choose is was but it just pinged as too much to be purely coincidental
missed opportunity for the facial profile with YES as bottom text meme here
Why?
ok so if you wanted to pressure Boom early to read him better why label your vote as an "equality" vote? how are the wagons being even in votes relevant to your stated goal here?
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agreed with DH here, this town read seems premature. Mala was pretty cool under pressure in midnight ops correct? pretty sure any competent scum would have the wherewithal to not be rattled by an early RVS wagon 24 hours in to the game
Really? Even after your tutoring in Midnight? I'd think he'd stick to your advice and remain chill.
we were all scum together in midnight ops though you obviously got to play alongside mala WAYYYY longer than I did. My impression of mala was always that of a more chill/laid back style, is your opinion here at all based on what you saw from mala as a mate in midnight ops or is this a deeper meta read?
bro this comes off insanely defensive and like a "wahhhhhh stop talking to me" type response
Interesting. Wasn't it my being so chill about getting wagoned quickly at the end of midnight a reason why you thought I was scum there?See
but it clearly isn’t since I answered you sarcastically and you didn’t follow up?
Really? People were starting to move past rvs ~half a page into the game? Idk if this is another one of your personal definitions for mafia concepts but it was still blatantly RVS when I voted for you. And that doesn’t explain why you were interested in pigeonholing me into a stance between a guy who hadn’t posted at all, and a guy who made one joke post.
Yeah, but being
Ah, thanks. I made the username connection but I'm absolutely unfamiliar with the community so I had no idea what behavior would embody it.
Well, I've never seen two random vote wagons speed off head to head on page one like it's the DAF Turbo Twin vs. Vatanen's Peugeot 405 T16
Yeah, but being a bit contrarian is also fun.
What makes this different than that in your mind?
It’s moreso highlighting why I thought him asking me to choose between boomfrog and mala was pointless, and then asking what the point of asking me that was. There’s nothing to defend against
Stellaris?Unvote
Vote: HBC | Kary
wam is always scummy (at least in my eyes). Hard to know if he's strong as scum because he keeps getting lynched early as either alignment.
Gamestate and advancement. The fact you acknowledged it here is telling to me, where as in midnight you literally didn’t react to it out of pushing elsewhere. There’s a clear difference. I don’t think that much coaching would’ve rubbed off on you from one game with Laser tbh. I would think overall and not really reactivity. Your entrance to the wagon seemed genuine and answered appropriately, therefore my town read of it.
Oh cmon now Boom. And literally since 2010-2012 area. I’ve been more active and wordy since I started playing again, but will tone it down as it’s not as fresh to me any longer.
#HBC | FrozeηFlame
Its not. Simply marking that it was a tied vote now. But in spirit of being on one wagon, I chose Boom for the above reasons. You’re looking to much at the part that I named when it served no purpose other than a marker that the votes were once again equal.
I wouldn't really consider the malak wagon to be true rvs because it felt like people were trying to make it into a pressure wagon. At the very least your vote on me seemed like a zero content vote at a time where people were trying to create content. My question was nothing super groundbreaking so I'm surprised by your response.
im actually surprised you’re taking this stance.
Why are you surprised DH is taking that stance? Is it about them specifically or the viewpoint overall
I would have preferred to follow up on that without your intervention, thank you very much.
After FF wanted clarification to something which was clearly a serious question I wanted to see if you would actually give a serious answer in case it was really a misunderstanding. Why haven't you done so when you have now acknowledged it?
Ok, I'll give you that one.
Fair explanation
The viewpoint overall. I don’t know dark horse well enough to be comparing his meta, so apologies i wasn’t trying to go there
#HBC | Dark Horse
I don’t think anybody thought of the malakandra wagon as a pressure wagon.
It's all good, I keep on losing track of who has played a lot with who so I was just seeing if you knew anything juicy lol
because I honestly don’t think that anybody with any sort of mafia acumen would wonder about whether 10 vs 3 or 9 vs 4 is better balance wise. If you want to show me a balanced 9 vs 4 setup by all means I’d love to see it. I can’t imagine that not being ridiculously scum favored
