TheBlackHombre: Smash Arcade Stick Demonstration

[Ledemduso]

AKA how to win at smash

Good luck, trying that in melee xD

 

[LotadAlittle]

You do need a z button, shield grabs have different frame data and toon link's zair has much more lag if performed like a shield grab.

 

[DavemanCozy]

"While Smash is a fighting game unlike most fighters there number of players using arcade sticks due to their lack of analog sticks and very different control scheme."
@ LiteralGrill this sentence doesn't really make sense

And hey, whatever works for people. I'm sure many smash fans will still be interested in using their controllers, and there are characters that would probably be best to keep a Z button for Zairs, etc. But Ryu doesn't need none of that, and this fighting stick is more comfortable, then ain't nothing wrong with that.

 

[Taokaka]

Wow this is interesting :0 But there are definitely alot of buttons xD

 

[zaiman12345]

I use a Wiimote for brawl. (i know, crucify me if you want.) I only use my GC controller for GC games, also i don't really know about melee, i'm about to get started using project m but i never played melee so i have NO. IDEA. what this guy is talking about. The only controllers that aren't wiimotes that i use are the pro controller and gamepad. (btw should i use the GC contoller for Project M?)

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

Oh wow.....

That's going to come in handy. Beautiful & accurate.

 

[Xavix]

I SO want to play with this. It seems like making button inputs/precise combos would be much easier. If you ever plan on commercializing it, I'm definitely a customer!

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

I use a Wiimote for brawl. (i know, crucify me if you want.) I only use my GC controller for GC games, also i don't really know about melee, i'm about to get started using project m but i never played melee so i have NO. IDEA. what this guy is talking about. The only controllers that aren't wiimotes that i use are the pro controller and gamepad. (btw should i use the GC contoller for Project M?)

Yes, you should use the GC controller for Project M. It's the best option, the GC controller is the best designed controller of all time in my opinion.

This arcade stick is nice and all but the reality is if you plan on competiting at live tournaments, it won't be allowed.

 

[zaiman12345]

Yes, you should use the GC controller for Project M. It's the best option, the GC controller is the best designed controller of all time in my opinion.

This arcade stick is nice and all but the reality is if you plan on competiting at live tournaments, it won't be allowed.

Thanks dude.
Also, I think that sticks would have to be made BY the tournament provider for bigger tournaments, So the tournament provider would take money from the player that wants it, then give that money to a commissioner ahead of time before the tournament.
(just an idea.)

 

[Squirty]

What are the internals like? (What's turning the button presses into controller signals?) I assume you've got some circuit that's outputting gamecube controller protocol for use with the gamecube USB adapter? Or is this a PC/Dolphin stick only?

I just finished making a circuit for comparing controller latency. Somewhat a manual process, but maybe you're interested... http://smashboards.com/threads/wii-u-controller-latency-comparison-gc-vs-gamepad-pro-etc.372697/

 

[krvntn]

Wow cool an arcade stick to enhance the "attack-roll" tactic.

Truly this is gonna advance the meta to new levels.

 

[zaiman12345]

what are those tiny buttons in the bottom left?

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

what are those tiny buttons in the bottom left?

I think it's a D-PAD of sorts.

 

[Gawain]

lol why wouldn't it be? I'm sure it has a GCN cord. It'd be more ideal than a procontroller.

Anyway this is really interesting, and I hope we can see more of these so that traditional fighting game guys could get into smash. That'd be incredibly cool!

Probably for the same reason that lots of fighting game players think that hitboxes are stupid. It's not really an invalid argument either, you gotta call the line at some point.

 

[JCOnyx]

Too bad this wouldnt ever be allowed at any tournaments

Every other FG allows custom controllers/sticks and I've never heard of them being even remotely banned in smash unless it has a macro of some sort. In 64 alone here in WA I've seen keyboards, hori minipads, lighted controllers, and those Frankenstein keyboard controllers.

Now I do have to admit, I question the legality of the shift button. But it would come with both it's up and down sides. Only ever having 2 ground and air speeds sounds detrimental to characters like Jiggs/Peach. Not to mention with the stick being digital your missing out on a ton of angles for recoveries.

The other fight stick he'll be showing us in the next video though sounds amazing and perfectly legal. I'm only hoping he swapped the shift key for Z in that one.

 

[epicnights]

Just as a mention for those questioning whether it'd be allowed at tournaments or not, @TheBlackHombre actually participated at CEO 2015. It's truly impressive in person.

 

[LancerStaff]

Makes me realize how much we need C-buttons in Smash. Especially one with very slight diagonal input so that those of use with tilt sticks get a Nair button.

 

[Daisy101]

Sorry to reviving the thread randomly like that, but i'm still surprised to see no ones shared that video of @TheBlackHombre recent new about the smash stick, he say some news are coming. but there that video from month agos too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE7BwEGd3VY

 

[SC7]

this is really cool