The Yo-kai Watch Mascot! (Jibanyan For Smash!) (Under New Management!)

[Ornl]

im not really sure trending on google is a good indicator of somethings popularity, i mean people could be googling it for all sorts of reasons

If you know of a better measurement tool, you can send it to me.

 

[fogbadge]

If you know of a better measurement tool, you can send it to me.

there isnt a good measuring tool

 

[Ornl]

Top 20 French Poll
Want + prev (both because confusion) in (no-reply) comments in a French Youtube video, after Banjo/Hero and before the 4th DLC. No autority, these just was unrepresentative trends, some of which could have been influenced by the author of the video. This wasn't the case of Yo-kai Watch (6th), which the author hadn't supported. It's still safe to say that part of the French community expects/wants Level 5 content.
Note : Minecraft was the series that also had the most opposition.

Spoiler: Large graphic

 

[Ornl]

I don't think Capcom or Bamco will have the FP5. It stays Phoenix Wright, but I don't think he's more likely than Monster Hunter. I don't think there will be Tekken because we just had Terry. (and Tekken isn't "unexpected" nor "never seen it coming"). I don't think Xenosaga or SoulCalibur are more likely than Tales/Tekken. I don't think that Konami, Sega, Squenix, Microsoft or SNK will have a new Fighter before the end of the FP. Hayabusa isn't the 5th Fighter, and I don't think that Dynasty Warriors is more likely. Here is where it would stay IMO:
Minecraft - Resident Evil - Overwatch - Kingdom Hearts - Yo-kai Watch - Tales - Touhou Project - Tekken - Assassin's Creed - Dynasty Warriors - Digimon - Devil May Cry - Yakuza - Halo - Tamagotchi - Story of Seasons - Souls - Ace Attorney - Phantasy Star - Professor Layton - DOOM > Tomb Raider - Puyo Puyo - Disgaea - Suikoden - Guilty Gear - Ys - Dead or Alive - NieR - The Elder Scroll - Crash Bandicoot - Mystery Dungeon - SoulCalibur - Ōkami - Ninja Gaiden - Sakura Wars - Space Invaders - Rayman - Raving Rabbits - The Tower of Druaga - Bubble Bobble - No More Heroes - Katamari

 

[fogbadge]

I don't think Capcom or Bamco will have the FP5. It stays Phoenix Wright, but I don't think he's more likely than Monster Hunter. I don't think there will be Tekken because we just had Terry. (and Tekken isn't "unexpected" nor "never seen it coming"). I don't think I don't think Xenosaga or SoulCalibur are more likely than Tales/Tekken. I don't think that Konami, Sega, Squenix, Microsoft or SNK will have a new Fighter before the end of the FP. Hayabusa isn't the 5th Fighter, and I don't think that Dynasty Warriors is more likely. Here is where it would stay IMO:
Minecraft - Resident Evil - Overwatch - Kingdom Hearts - Yo-kai Watch - Tales - Touhou Project - Tekken - Assassin's Creed - Dynasty Warriors - Digimon - Devil May Cry - Yakuza - Halo - Tamagotchi - Story of Seasons - Souls - Ace Attorney - Phantasy Star - Professor Layton - DOOM > Tomb Raider - Puyo Puyo - Disgaea - Suikoden - Guilty Gear - Ys - Dead or Alive - NieR - The Elder Scroll - Crash Bandicoot - Mystery Dungeon - SoulCalibur - Ōkami - Ninja Gaiden - Sakura Wars - Space Invaders - Rayman - Raving Rabbits - The Tower of Druaga - Bubble Bobble - No More Heroes - Katamari

pardon?

 

[chocolatejr9]

I don't think Capcom or Bamco will have the FP5. It stays Phoenix Wright, but I don't think he's more likely than Monster Hunter. I don't think there will be Tekken because we just had Terry. (and Tekken isn't "unexpected" nor "never seen it coming"). I don't think Xenosaga or SoulCalibur are more likely than Tales/Tekken. I don't think that Konami, Sega, Squenix, Microsoft or SNK will have a new Fighter before the end of the FP. Hayabusa isn't the 5th Fighter, and I don't think that Dynasty Warriors is more likely. Here is where it would stay IMO:
Minecraft - Resident Evil - Overwatch - Kingdom Hearts - Yo-kai Watch - Tales - Touhou Project - Tekken - Assassin's Creed - Dynasty Warriors - Digimon - Devil May Cry - Yakuza - Halo - Tamagotchi - Story of Seasons - Souls - Ace Attorney - Phantasy Star - Professor Layton - DOOM > Tomb Raider - Puyo Puyo - Disgaea - Suikoden - Guilty Gear - Ys - Dead or Alive - NieR - The Elder Scroll - Crash Bandicoot - Mystery Dungeon - SoulCalibur - Ōkami - Ninja Gaiden - Sakura Wars - Space Invaders - Rayman - Raving Rabbits - The Tower of Druaga - Bubble Bobble - No More Heroes - Katamari

So if I'm reading this right, you think a Yo-kai Watch rep (or at least, a Level-5 rep) is likely for FP5? Or am I reading this wrong?

 

[Ornl]

Yes, I say a Level 5 rep is possible.

 

[King Sonnn DeDeDoo]

I’m a big fan of the Professor Layton games also made by Level-5 but never played yo-Kai watch games yet, so I’m curious as to what Jibanyan could do as a fighter and who he is as a character.

 

[chocolatejr9]

I’m a big fan of the Professor Layton games also made by Level-5 but never played yo-Kai watch games yet, so I’m curious as to what Jibanyan could do as a fighter and who he is as a character.

Well, if you get the time, you can read over his Yo-kai Watch Wiki article. It helps give the basic gist of who Jibanyan is, at least.

https://yokaiwatch.fandom.com/wiki/Jibanyan

 

[fogbadge]

I’m a big fan of the Professor Layton games also made by Level-5 but never played yo-Kai watch games yet, so I’m curious as to what Jibanyan could do as a fighter and who he is as a character.

well his main attacks consist of punching and he can throw fire balls, his signature attack is the paws of fury, rapid punches. also he has a lot of variants to pull from, not just other cat yo-kai but other version of him with other things they can do. really he has a lot of moveset potential like a number of the major yo-kai watch characters

 

[Matadormon]

Sorry for my ignorance, but didn't Yokai-Watch started as a manga first? Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[fogbadge]

Sorry for my ignorance, but didn't Yokai-Watch started as a manga first? Correct me if I'm wrong.

yo-kai watch was developed as a video game originally, starting off planned for the ps3 but moved to the 3ds, creation of the manga began long after that

 

[Matadormon]

yo-kai watch was developed as a video game originally, starting off planned for the ps3 but moved to the 3ds, creation of the manga began long after that

I see.

 

[ZealousGamer]

I'd still love for Jibanyan to join. However, he doesn't seem to get much support.

 

[fogbadge]

I'd still love for Jibanyan to join. However, he doesn't seem to get much support.

yeah the series seemed to become a bit of a niche outside of japan

 

[chocolatejr9]

So this thread just went and died on us. How about we try to bring it back?

Remember a page or so ago when someone brought up that weird Yo-kai Academy thing? The one where the Yo-kai turn into superheroes? Well, apparently, it's getting its own game. Must be at least somewhat popular, then.

 

[ZealousGamer]

I haven't seen that.

 

[fogbadge]

when you think about we're all sure theyd go for jibanyan cause hes the mascot but can we be sure thats the route theyd take?

 

[chocolatejr9]

I haven't seen that.

Here's the article about it on the wiki. I don't know if there's been a trailer yet, though.

https://yokaiwatch.fandom.com/wiki/Yo-kai_Watch_Jam_-_Yo-kai_Academy_Y:_Waiwai_Gakuen_Seikatsu

 

[kaithehedgefox]

I've changed my mind, I'm now a Jibanyan supporter, and I no longer want him to be an assist trophy. I originally wanted Jibanyan to be unplayable, because I thought including him as a playable character would promote a Pokemon rival. But then, I thought, "If Agumon (Digimon) merits to be playable we should have Jibanyan too!" So thus, I now want Jibanyan to be playable.

As a reminder:

PSA: Please ignore all my post and topics that were created before the COVID-19 pandemic. My opinions and thoughts have had major changes since the pandemic initiated. My behavior has now improved and I will not cause anymore trouble from now on.

All my posts from before the pandemic are now all outdated.

 

[ZealousGamer]

I think people have forgotten about poor Jibanyan, He deserves support!

 

[fogbadge]

I've changed my mind, I'm now a Jibanyan supporter, and I no longer want him to be an assist trophy. I originally wanted Jibanyan to be unplayable, because I thought including him as a playable character would promote a Pokemon rival. But then, I thought, "If Agumon (Digimon) merits to be playable we should have Jibanyan too!" So thus, I now want Jibanyan to be playable.

As a reminder:

neither yo-kai watch and digimon are far too different to be considered rivals of pokemon the only things they have in common is that theyre all about strange creatures but they are not rivals

 

[kaithehedgefox]

I think people have forgotten about poor Jibanyan, He deserves support!

I just mentioned that too. Jibanyan has still maintained his fame to this day. Same goes with Agumon (Digimon).

neither yo-kai watch and digimon are far too different to be considered rivals of pokemon the only things they have in common is that theyre all about strange creatures but they are not rivals

Both Yokai Watch and Digimon are Pokemon clones. Unfortunately, Agumon and Jibanyan are the only two pokemon clone primary reps that I know who certainly merit to be playable in Smash. On the other hand, Suezo (Monster Rancher), Metabee (Medabots), and Dragonoid (Bakugan) may be far to obscure nowadays, and thus would be better off as assist trophies, mii costumes, or spirits.

 

[fogbadge]

Both Yokai Watch and Digimon are Pokemon clones. Unfortunately, Agumon and Jibanyan are the only two pokemon clone primary reps that I know who certainly merit to be playable in Smash. On the other hand, Suezo (Monster Hunter), Metabee (Medabots), and Dragonoid (Bakugan) may be far to obscure nowadays, and thus would be better off as assist trophies, mii costumes, or spirits.

no they are not. digimon was made as a tomogatchi for boys that evolved into a multi media franchise. yo-watch was made when level-5 wanted to make another multi media franchise like layton and iizumi 11 and they turned to local myth and folklore. to call either a pokemon clone is wrong and would be based on a completely misunderstanding of both franchises and is some what insulting to the intentions of the makers of the series.

 

[kaithehedgefox]

no they are not. digimon was made as a tomogatchi for boys that evolved into a multi media franchise. yo-watch was made when level-5 wanted to make another multi media franchise like layton and iizumi 11 and they turned to local myth and folklore. to call either a pokemon clone is wrong and would be based on a completely misunderstanding of both franchises and is some what insulting to the intentions of the makers of the series.

While I support Jibanyan, I think it would be more accurate to call videogames like Pokemon, Digimon, Yokai Watch, etc. something along the lines of "battle pet" or "monster collecting and battling". It has been an established genre since the early-mid 2000s.

 

[fxd001]

I just mentioned that too. Jibanyan has still maintained his fame to this day. Same goes with Agumon (Digimon).

Both Yokai Watch and Digimon are Pokemon clones. Unfortunately, Agumon and Jibanyan are the only two pokemon clone primary reps that I know who certainly merit to be playable in Smash. On the other hand, Suezo (Monster Hunter), Metabee (Medabots), and Dragonoid (Bakugan) may be far to obscure nowadays, and thus would be better off as assist trophies, mii costumes, or spirits.

The only people who unironically believe that Digimon and Yokai Watch are clones of Pokemon are those who have never interacted with either series in any meaningful way beyond just knowing they exist. Even the most basic surface-level analysis of the series will show quite a few differences between them, and those differences only get bigger and more pronounced the deeper you dig. It really isn't an exaggeration to claim that the only similarity they have in common is the whole 'collecting monsters and training them to battle other monsters' thing, which had been done by SMT and Dragon Quest years before Pokemon was even a thing.

 

[kaithehedgefox]

The only people who unironically believe that Digimon and Yokai Watch are clones of Pokemon are those who have never interacted with either series in any meaningful way beyond just knowing they exist. Even the most basic surface-level analysis of the series will show quite a few differences between them, and those differences only get bigger and more pronounced the deeper you dig. It really isn't an exaggeration to claim that the only similarity they have in common is the whole 'collecting monsters and training them to battle other monsters' thing, which had been done by SMT and Dragon Quest years before Pokemon was even a thing.

I would say that Megami Tensei and Dragon Quest invented the "Collecting and battling with monsters" genre, but Pokemon codified it. It later mutated/evolved into a genre much later.

 

[fogbadge]

I would say that Megami Tensei and Dragon Quest invented the "Collecting and battling with monsters" genre, but Pokemon codified it. It later mutated/evolved into a genre much later.

but it still doesnt make either digimon or yo-kai watch pokemon clones. they are their own thing as much as pokemon is its own thing

 

[fxd001]

but it still doesnt make either digimon or yo-kai watch pokemon clones. they are their own thing as much as pokemon is its own thing

Exactly. Let's just take a look at how the monsters are treated in each series to get an idea of how they each approach the concept differently.
In Pokemon, the monsters are to that world what normal animals are to ours. They're pets, livestock, ferocious predators, and just generally a normal part of everyday life. The entire society is built around them.

Now let's look at Digimon. In almost every area of the series, Digimon and humans interacting is treated as something that's abnormal and/or not supposed to happen. The human world an the digital world are two completely separate dimensions, and whenever they end up overlapping enough for people to cross over to the digital world, that's treated as a bad thing. Usually it happens as a direct result of the main villain's schemes, is a threat to the continued existence of both worlds, and once said villain gets defeated, the story ends with the two worlds being re-separated. This is basically the exact opposite of how Pokemon handles it.

Then there's Yokai Watch with its own take on the formula, falling somewhere in the middle between the previous two. The Yokai exist as a normal part of life in the same world as humans, but the humans never know it because the Yokai are completely invisible and undetectable without the titular yokai watch. Yokai cause trouble and help people out on their own whims, and the humans themselves are none the wiser.

Again, this is only the most basic surface-level analysis of the three series. That's not even getting into more complex things like the different gameplay mechanics, story structure, and deeper lore. To call any of them a clone of the other when they each do so much to make themselves stand out as their own thing is ignorant at best, and outright insulting at worst.

 

[kaithehedgefox]

but it still doesnt make either digimon or yo-kai watch pokemon clones. they are their own thing as much as pokemon is its own thing

I absolutely agree! Not to mention videogames like Digimon, Yokai Watch, Beyblade, Yugioh, and even obscure ones like Bakugan, Medabots, Monster Rancher, etc. aren't Pokemon clones. They now are part of the "Monster collecting" genre . So thus, it is now an established genre, and not a clone thing anymore.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Just a head's up, Level-5 is announcing something on August 1st related to Yo-kai Watch Jam.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

 

[fogbadge]

I absolutely agree! Not to mention videogames like Digimon, Yokai Watch, Beyblade, Yugioh, and even obscure ones like Bakugan, Medabots, Monster Rancher, etc. aren't Pokemon clones. They now are part of the "Monster collecting" genre . So thus, it is now an established genre, and not a clone thing anymore.

then why did you call them clones in the first place?

 

[Curious Villager]

The only people who call Digimon, Yo-Kai Watch or any other monster collector franchise "Pokemon clones" are generally clingy Pokemon fanboys who think that the franchise somehow owns the entire genre. I think SMT or some other franchise even beat it out on the monster collecting aspect prior.

There have been plenty of monster collector games that have come out over the years with lots of different spins on the formula that its pretty much its own game genre at this point, especially in Japan where there are loads of those type of games around.

By that point, you might as well call any FPS game "DOOM clones" or fighting games "Street Fighter clones" etc.

 

[Deleted member]

I want some clarification, I know the Yokai Watch mangas were made first but was the manga made to promote the games?

 

[Matadormon]

I want some clarification, I know the Yokai Watch mangas were made first but was the manga made to promote the games?

The game was announced in 2011 first in the TGS, and then the manga came as second in 2013. The manga was meant to promote the game. And the game has been announced first in 2011.

 

[ZealousGamer]

It's been awhile since anyone talked in this thread.

 

[fogbadge]

It's been awhile since anyone talked in this thread.

the layton thread is kind of the unofficial level-5 general

 

[chocolatejr9]

I know it's been brought up in other places, but I figured I'd share it here:

Level-5 has virtually halted operations in North America

Ni No Kuni and Yo-Kai Watch developer Level-5 appears to have all-but-shuttered its North American operations. Accordin…

www.gamesindustry.biz

Basically, Level-5 has more-or-less ceased production in the West, and people are speculating the whole ship will sink anytime soon. Thing is, nobody knows what this means for Yo-kai Watch 4, which was confirmed to be getting an English release before all this happened. We'll just have to hope for the best for now.

In other news, I noticed that the thread owner has deleted their account. Would anybody be willing to take it over in their stead?

 

[ZealousGamer]

Huh.... as I'm not savvy with this kind of stuff; I allowed someone to take over this thread in the first place. Anyone who feels up to it; is fine by me.

 

[chocolatejr9]

For anybody interested, I found this video on the history of Yo-kai Watch. It's a little over an hour long, but I think it's a good watch if you have the time.