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The X thread

Wu Tang Gang

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After the music update, I've gotten alot of hope for this guy. Seeing that X is japan only, and has good music, I feel X needs to be a PC. Seriously though, the music opens up a new door. I'm pretty sure no one even knew about him before his update, but look at Ashley.


Here's why X needs a rep in my opinion

1. It's a precursor to the great Star Fox series of sorts
2. It's one of the 4 most influential Game Boy games according to Famitsu
3. One of the first 3D games for the Game Boy
4. The first game to feature Totaka's song
5. Yoshio Sakamoto's works need more representation
6. Brawl needs more space ships.
7. It could bring a revival of the X series
8. It's popular in Japan


By The Way, Club X. stands for X.






By RDK.


I am truly amazed at how delusional these Ashley fans are.

It seems that it has gotten to the point, where it is simply impossible to reason with members of the A.S.H.L.E.Y club, because in their minds she is already a playable character in the upcoming Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Even though it may be futile, and I will just get flamed and cursed off, I'm going to try it anyways.


I'll start by saying and stating;

Ashley does not deserve to be a playable character in Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

Please, before continuing onwards with this post; reread the sentence in bold which I just wrote. Pay close attention to the word I underlined... deserve. I want you to really understand the point I am trying to get across, and I know it might be difficult for fans to hear this since I do not mean to offend or insult any of you.

Let me start first by saying that Ashley is a fantastic character. After all, Who could possibly hate a little witch girl Lolita? She has the potential to have a very well thought-out move set, and not to mention boosts the female character portion of the game. I do not hate the character in any way imaginable, like I said earlier, I just feel that she is not deserving of a playable character spot.

I'll start my argument with a diagram, that hopefully everyone will be able to relate with;



(Imagine if you will, that Ashley is not a 2D Concept Art model)

Just take a look at the known character roster for Super Smash Bros Brawl. Take the time to pan through every single portrait, and every time make a mental note of how the character has not only made a profound impact on the Nintendo Universe, but how the character has made an impact in each of their own represented Series.

Just look at all the portraits around Ashley.... We've got Mario, who is Nintendo's most famous mascot, and basically drove them to their success. Peach and Bowser who have always played an intricate role in driving the storyline for the Mario games since the first title ever. Yoshi has been Mario's partner since Mario World, and even ventured off on his own to star in many of his own games. Donkey Kong was Mario's first true enemy when it came to kidnapping the princess, and since then he has gone onwards to be the star of his own franchise which has blossomed tons of sequels, not to mention his right-hand ape Diddy Kong. Samus (and her Zero Suit) also joins the cast being one of the notable female protagonists in the history of video games (never mind just Nintendo). The star warrior Kirby appears, as well as his enemy cohorts and rivals Meta Knight and King Dedede. Dedede has been the "Koopa" of Kirby since the first Kirby game, up until the last. Meta Knight has also been an intricate part of the story for Kirby, with his enigmatic "friend or foe" mentality that has always kept the player on edge. Pikachu does not even need an explanation, as probably the entire population easily recognizes the cheerful "Pika Pika" which comes from this rodents mouth. The silent protagonist of every Pokemon game, the Pokemon Trainer, has also been around to be the voice, eyes, and ears for the player in the Pokemon World. Link, being the star of arguably one of the greatest games of all time, along with his Princess Zelda are a part of the cast as well. Ike is the rising and most recent star of the Fire Emblem series, starring the main protagonists role in 2 FE games on his own (I believe a Fire Emblem first), coupled along with Lucas, who is one of the most underrated, but truly deep main characters in the Mother series, which was one of the most sought after GBA titles in Japan. Fox who was the first to bring his pseudo-3D to the 2D-Era, along with Wario who was great enough to branch away from being Mario's rival, to being his very own anti-hero in his own series. Pit and Ice Climbers bring a distinct retro yet updated feel to the game, which only the most profound Nintendo fans could truly enjoy. and for Sonic and Snake... well that's pretty much self-explanatory.

*whew*

Surely, you can see how Ashley just DOES NOT belong with a cast of this caliber?

Make note that in the entire cluster of character descriptions I made above... None of the reasons involved Gender, Moveset Capabilities, How Well they Fit with the Rest of the Cast, or the general characteristics of the character (in Ashleys case, the fact that she is a witch is very cool).

Yes, Ashley is a Witch Lolita which is quite awesome, but it does not merit her a position as a playable character on the roster.
Yes, Ashley could have a spectacular moveset, but it does not merit her a position as a playable character on the roster.
Yes, Ashley is a female which the Smash roster is lacking, but it does not merit her a position as a playable character on the roster.
Yes, Ashley would easily fit into the cast of fighters (being a spellcaster), but it does not merit her a position as a playable character on the roster.
Yes, Ashley already has her own theme song which sounds great, but it does not merit her a position as a playable character on the roster.
Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!

The list goes on and on about all the great things which many of you adoring fans love about Ashley. But none of these are valuable enough to allow her the privilege of being a PLAYABLE character on the Roster.

Can't you see it yet?

Ashley has made absolutely no mark on the world.. not only in the Nintendo Universe, but in the entire Video Games Industry as a whole. To become a playable character in Smash Bros, the character first has to break the barrier which separates "Character" from "Iconic Video Game Symbol".

There isn't a single character on the current roster which has not broken these boundaries, and been globally acknowledged as an Iconic Symbol in Video Game History. Mario, Link, Donkey Kong, Samus, Peach, Yoshi, Pikachu... heck and I know you are going to bring it up to counter me, but yes Ice Climbers and Kid Icarus did make their mark back in their days (just did not keep it going as the rest of the cast did).

Saki Amamiya, Lyn, Stafy, Waluigi, Little Mac, Mr. Resetti... These are all perfect examples of characters who have not broken through the boundaries. Particularly in the cases of Saki Amamiya, and Lyn who were both the main protagonists in their games, yet didn't achieve the status of icons for whatever reasons.

Unfortunately for the fans of Ashley.... She has NOT broken these boundaries with her minor appearance in WarioWare. Ashley has not made a profound enough influence in peoples lives, and Ashley has not been the driving force for any series in particular. Wario does NOT need another representative. Wario is the symbol of the Wario Ware series. Having Ashley right beside Wario would not benefit or deter the WarioWare representation in any way. Wario is a big enough (no pun intended) character to stand his own ground and represent himself on his own. That's just the problem with Ashley fans, and its why I sympathize with you all so much.

Ashley is exactly what you all make her out to be... a fantastic character. Nothing more. Nothing Less.
Sadly, being a fantastic character does not make you into the roster. Being a world-renown video game icon does.



I warn you now Ashley fans, do NOT get your hopes too high in Ashley being a Playable Character. Because of the reasons I mentioned above, I would expect at most that Ashley makes her way as an Assist Trophy, simply because of the popularity she has in Japan.


I also want to apologize in advance.. I just felt the need to get this off my chest, since everyone was bickering about the subject. I don't mean to cause a gigantic flame war... I just want to clear up the air on some clouded judgement.
 

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I dont think the X character he was talking about will get in. he said this music was going to have no representation of any other kind. but the megaman x characted is a different story.
 

Arteen

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Oh man, I'd love X for Brawl. I've wanted X in Brawl ever since I first learned of the game
earlier today
. He's Japan-only, but since I'm so knowledgable about Japanese gaming culture and their taste in characters, I'm pretty sure that they all love X and want X in. Through sheer popularity alone, X has got to make it in. X is one of Japan's favorite games! X even got its own music update on the Dojo! X for Brawl!
 

Chidosengan

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Sakurai said:
Of course, there is no X stage in Super Smash Bros. Brawl, but this time, the songs in Smash Bros. aren’t limited only to those series represented by characters and stages. We’ve pulled some that are from completely unrelated games.
I am so sorry.
 
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Sorry Wu Tang, but the man said it himself that there aren't any characters from that game. Plus, the music didn't come with its own icon, so there won't even be a stage.
 

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I want to join Club X. Although you guys may not knows this, there is a strong support and like of the character X, and he's one of the most important and popular characters in the X series! And they have his music in, so why not the charcter?

X fur teh brawlzz1!1!!!two!!!
 

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Pure, unadulterated, SUPER AWSOME WIN!

*waits for people to realize this is a parody of the ashley thread*
LOL WIN! Ya, that Ashley thread is pretty retarted! :laugh: "ZOMG X CONFRMIED" OMFG! OMFG! OMFG! OMFG!....OMFG! X is in teh Bralwz, he replace Luiig! OMFG! OMFG! OMFG!

:laugh:

Man, sarcasm and impersonation is FUN! :grin:

*points, laughs, and cries with laughter at the Ashley thread*

And sign me up, lulz. BTW...who the f*** is X, what do they look like, and who was the game made by (other then Nintendo)=??? :chuckle:
 

Zoo-bellocks

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After today's update, unveiling its music... I guess is safe to assume it stands a fair chance to be the rep of the Game Boy console, it is very cool and witty, what do you think?

Link to X music:
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/music/music16.html

X game footage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCyTGdCyg3w

If Sakurai put it's music in, it must be for a reason. It's not like he could just put music in because it was requested or based on his own whims, right?
 

DarkVision

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After today's update, unveiling its music... I guess is safe to assume it stands a fair chance to be the rep of the Game Boy console, it is very cool and witty, what do you think?

Link to X music:
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/music/music16.html

X game footage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCyTGdCyg3w

If Sakurai put it's music in, it must be for a reason. It's not like he could just put music in because it was requested or based on his own whims, right?
Apparently X's gameplay is about running into rock formations over and over again?
 

Shuma

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Rocks are very powerfull villains, do not understimate the rocks.
 

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The Official Dark Coronatus Support Post!

Welcome, this is the Official Dark Coronatus for SSBB post. Now, the purpose of this first post, and most first posts on other threads, is to contain all of the information gathered throughout the thread so that you don't have to read through 300+ pages of posts, and to (hopefully) convince those unsure of the character's inclusion that they deserve to be in the game. Also, people who don't know much about the character can learn a little bit more about him.
So let us begin, shall we?

Who is Dark Coronatus?



Unless you're old to the forums, or video game, then you

shouldn't know who Dark Coronatus is , but just to clear things up before

we dive into the pool of Coronatus related information, here is a brief

summary from Huge Darius Battleship.

"Seahorses, and coelacanths, are recurrent stars in the Darius series. It should therefore come as no surprise to run into this bloke in the middle of Darius Twin. In the middle of the sky, meet Dark Coronatus. Dark Coronatus cycles between three attacks, a common enough phenomenon."

So... Why Dark Coronatus?

When Staryu was reconfirmed as a Pokeball Pokemon it opened up a whole new way of Dark Coronatus appearing in Brawl. As a playable character. There are people who opposed the idea of such a character being in Brawl, and then there are those who supported him. The udapte only brought attention to the character, but does not really count as a reason why he should be in. However, it is a plus that Dark Coronatus was the only character in the Darius series to appear in a Nintendo sytem, besides Great Thing and the Silver hawk, of course. He appeared in the game Darius Twin on the SNES.


"The rule of chances, when it comes to playable characters"​

No character has a 0% chance of inclusion into the roster of Super Smash Bros Brawl unless announced unconfirmed by the Dojo, or is seen as an Assist Trophy through playing the demo of the game. No matter how low the % may be, it is not zero. The only exception to this is if the character never appeared on a Nintendo console, ever.

As you can see, Dark Coronatus does not fall under the circumstances above, and therefor has a chance. How low or high may be arguable, but the fact the number is there cannot. With this being said, we go into some of the reasons why he may be a good character to be included into Brawl.

1)A very unique move list - Without a doubt, a seahorse character with the abbility to produce small minions could make a very unique fighter. He has the potential to have multiple moves involving his huge tail and his firepower that can be really interesting. You may refer to our move sets for examples, which are sure to be updated as we create more move sets

2) Possible Boosted Sales for Darius - Darius has certainly been getting some attention, as they are releasing Darius games on Cell Phone, as well as Darius Gaiden review popping up over the place. So it seems as though they are trying to promote Darius, or in some sense, advertise it. This is why I feel as though a Darius character, that is only from Darius is not impossible. People seeing a character and playing as them in Smash Bros may tend to start like the character, especially if they feel they are fun to play. If they like the character, they may look into what series the character came from and may even be influenced to by a game from that series, especially if the series the character came from also interests them. Roy was rumored to be added to SSBM to be boost sales of Fire Emblem, so if this is true, I can certainly see Taito looking into certain character advertising their series.

Dark Coronatus Video on Darius Twin

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AuGikM9zaoM

Moveset coming soon!
 

Izaw

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Are you serious...

Think of .....

THIS GAMES WINNER IS!
X
.... thats one freaking letter ^^

I mean it would prolly be ok if he was an AT..
 

Wu Tang Gang

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wu tang you have a fetish with the ashley thread that goes on, and on and on and on!.

Your sick my friend.
What in hell are YOU talking about? I saw X's music update, so I IMMEDIATELY went and made this. I saw his potential, why do YOU hate X? Because he's japan only?
*cough* If he was in as a PC, he'd have a stage, and Sakurai said X doesn't have stage.
There was a Dr. Mario stage in Melee??
 
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