the wario "discoveries" thread (stick plox)

[handsockpuppet]

I've seen way to many "discoveries". so I'm making a thread about everything you'll need to know about glitches and weird game physics.

BIKE
why the bike first? because it has the most glitches.

Bike jump (not off)
it's true, you can jump while on the bike riding off the edge. I don't feel like posting it, so here's the link. http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=4331307#post4331307

bike cloning glitch
on Yoshi's Island, you can clone the bike. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kctGSVjEIOA

Invisible bike(riding)
you can ride an invisible bike. http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=162347

turns
with the bike, you can turn a maximum of three turns. http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=162853 no more. sometimes less. when it's on the ground, you can get back on the bike with >B. you can also steal another Wario's bike.

Throwing bike
you may pick up and throw the bike. it can mess up recovery. many people posted links.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0KgvGeRsPs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnbD_U6rn2M

bike taunt
press the taunt button on bike. 'nuff said.

attacks

aiming Ftilt
you can aim it up or down. http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=163118

chaingrab
yes, wario has one. grab, downthrow, turn, grab, downthrow, repeat. it works on any player without DI or teching, but only truely is a chaingrab on bowser, DK, and Wolf. wolf can do his down-B and bowser can do his up-B if you're sloppy though.

Waft

basics on waft
this thread well explains it. http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=163717

charging waft faster
you can't. eating projectiles doesn't help.

Glowing brown
that means it's fully charged. takes 113 seconds (not 110)

Warioman

coding
Wario-man has seperate coding in brawl. http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=5197750&posted=1#post5197750

dissappearing items
when you changeback into Wario, any items you had will be negated. one of the posts on
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=5197750&posted=1#post5197750

invisible bike (throwing)
do wario's FS. jump off bike. have a DK grab bike. turn normal. he'll have the holding animation, but no bike.
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=162347

Wario man waft delay
the waft charges slower when wario man. http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=161660

Bite


invinsibility frames

the bite has certain invulnerability/invincibility frames that can be very useful. the taunt also has it when you press the shield button.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=203474

jab-bite
you can link the jab to a bite http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=163906

wariocide
can be a suicidal attempt. jump off edge, bite, let1got, get back on. basic.

eating bombs
eating bombs, such as bomb-ombs or toon links, give you damage but hurts anybody nearby. might kill at high percentages.

eating in general
here's the list.
EDIBLE, SAME EFFECT AS PICKING UP:
-Heart Container
-Maxim Tomato
-Food
-Superspicy Curry
-Metal Box
-Poison Mushroom
-Super Mushroom
-Timer
-Lightning
-Warpstar
-Dragoon Parts
-Peach's Peaches

EDIBLE, DAMAGING:
-Bob Omb (6%)
-Gooey Bomb (6%)
-Motion Sensor Bomb (6%)
-Smart Bomb (6%)
-Blast Box (6%)
-Snake's Grenades (8%)

EDIBLE, NO EFFECT:
-Assist Trophy
-Barrel
-Crate/Rolling Crate
-Capsule
-Party Ball
-Sandbag
-Cracker Launcher
-Fire Flower
-Ray Gun
-Superscope
-Beam Sword
-Golden Hammer
-Hammer
-Fan
-Home Run Bat
-Lip's Stick
-Star Rod
-Banana Peel
-Bumper
-Deku Nut
-Freezie
-Green Shell
-Hothead
-Pitfall
-Smoke Ball
-Spring
-Team Healer
-Franklin Badge
-Screw Attack
-Bunny Hood
-Soccer Ball
-Urina
-Samus's Suit Parts
-R.O.B.'s Gyros
-King Dedede's Waddle Dees and Waddle Doos
-Wario's Bike
-Peach's Turnips

INEDIBLE:
-Pokéball
-Mr. Saturn
-Smash Ball
-Olimar's Pikmin
-King Dedede's Gordos
-Snake's Mortars

MISC

Matchups
who wario is good and bad against. http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=165117&page=2
well that's all folks. post here if I missed anything. DO NOT make a new thread. if I think it's true and worth it, I'll edit this to fit it in.

 

[Blackbelt]

thank you so much for making this. I was getting sick of all the threads.

 

[cyclops4ever]

good job this will be helpful indeedlydeedly dee

 

[Christopher Rodriguez]

Awesome, but theres no such thing as Yoshi's stadium. Also you can taunt on the bike with any direction (I may be wrong)

Just trying to help a bit, thanks for the thread once again.

 

[handsockpuppet]

yes, you can use any taunt on the bike. that's why I said the "taunt button". thanks for correcting me though. I made this all in a half hour, so I probably missed a lot.

 

[Christopher Rodriguez]

Your welcome. Now we just gotta wait for a mod to sticky.. We need a active wario boards mod.

 

[handsockpuppet]

yah. Garuda asked for two of his threads to be closed, yet they still haven't done it. it's annoying how Gimpyfish is a mod here, yet doesn't do anything. even though he posts like crazy on the Bowser boards.

 

[Warlock*G]

yah. Garuda asked for two of his threads to be closed, yet they still haven't done it. it's annoying how Gimpyfish is a mod here, yet doesn't do anything. even though he posts like crazy on the Bowser boards.

Guess I'll add some of these bike vids to the video thread in the meantime...

 

[RoyalRook]

Ok I got a pretty sick Wario, and I can tell you right now that you can turn more than three times on your bike. I can turn at least four times on a regular basis. I don't know this little tricks actually help me or not, but I tend to tap the jump key whenever I tries to do a turn...on top of carefully SLIDE the left stick from left to right or vice versa.

 

[handsockpuppet]

video evidence please, or I will announce it completely false and unchecked. I have a pretty sick dog, and I can tell you right now that he can roll over. since you have nothing against it, you believe me. however, if you had evidence that said otherwise, why would you? I could easily be lying.

LOL. Wariownage.

 

[tanisdourden]

haven't tested this. just happened to me during a game. i was snake and shot a missile at wario as he was recovering. he did his ^B and the missile hit him during the spin and got redirected at an upward angle. just wondering if this had happened before or if somebody could see if his ^B could redirect projectiles. i would try myself but i have nobody to help me do it.

 

[drag00nspyd0r]

it took me a while to question this but does anyone know if the waft charges while you're on the new life platform/have invincibility frames? i try to stay on the platform as long as i can in hopes to charge it w/o being in danger but i think ive noticed that it fully charges slightly below 6:07 on the 8 minute clock. can anyone confirm this?

 

[handsockpuppet]

for both of the above quotes, I must stress video evidence. I'm very lazy, and not willing to test anything. more then that, I don't own a video camera.

@tanisdourden, Snakes missiles are designed to redirect off many objects, like the shield. maybe during the spin on the >B there are invinsibilty/superarmour frames.

@drag00nspyd0r, perhaps that's linked with the Wario man waft delay. someone (not me) must look into that.

 

[TheReflexWonder]

it took me a while to question this but does anyone know if the waft charges while you're on the new life platform/have invincibility frames? i try to stay on the platform as long as i can in hopes to charge it w/o being in danger but i think ive noticed that it fully charges slightly below 6:07 on the 8 minute clock. can anyone confirm this?

It's probably that it doesn't charge while you're actually dead, before you respawn. I would imagine that while you're on the platform, it'd charge, but not while you're completely gone.

 

[handsockpuppet]

to tell you the truth, who really cares? it'll charge when it'll charge.

 

[handsockpuppet]

I just made another edit. please, guys, stop spamming about who and how wario can chainthrow. we know already.

 

[LuCKy]

can wario do that dash attack to up smash thing?

 

[handsockpuppet]

yes, he can. plain and simple.

 

[LuCKy]

is there any easy ways to do it? i wasnt able to the other day lol

 

[Sans Glutin]

Set R to attack run, C-stick down up R. I can do it almost every time.

 

[Ryan-K]

I do cstick down Z up with the default gc controls.

It's pretty hard at first but eh u get used to it.

 

[Samus_ABe]

if you have a fully charged waft and are riding your bike back towards battlefield in the wheelie position- if you climb one of the platforms with your bike it will start to glitch out and go all sorts of rainbow colors, kind of similar to the black hole in melee actually. try it very weird!

also- you dont land directly on the platform with the bike you land on the ground with the wheelie and then it takes you up onto the platform, this is when the glitching starts to occur

 

[handsockpuppet]

geez, that's weird. vid please!

P.S. must...revive thread!

 

[gojira345]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0Q6OY2UltA

Don't get hit from below.

 

[Wario Nut]

Hey guys, I found out that if you use the waft as Wario Man it charges super fast. Fast enough to get about three half wafts, but for some reason if you don't use the waft it takes longer to charge and you may not get to use it in a battle and it doesn't fully charge as Wario Man. Also uncharged wafts as Wario Man make the enemy stunned like they just broke their shield.

Sorry I don't have videos,( no camera) but try it out, its interesting even if its not that useful.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0Q6OY2UltA

Lol, do a barrel roll!

 

[cyclops4ever]

also wario mans downthrow is a downsmash on the edge like foxs' was in melee try it out. pretty nasty.

 

[Bouse]

I just made another edit. please, guys, stop spamming about who and how wario can chainthrow. we know already.

You should specify who it works on, it only works on Bowser, DK, and Wolf. It works on Falco but he can tech out of it.

 

[WestCoastNinja]

You should specify who it works on, it only works on Bowser, DK, and Wolf. It works on Falco but he can tech out of it.

It works on marth too. The guy Iwas playing knew that I was going for the dthrow to fsmash and kept shielding. I used this to my advantage and chained a couple dthrows on him. Does that count as a CG? Or is it techchasing?

 

[Bouse]

It works on marth too. The guy Iwas playing knew that I was going for the dthrow to fsmash and kept shielding. I used this to my advantage and chained a couple dthrows on him. Does that count as a CG? Or is it techchasing?

That's techchasing, He can do it to the aforementioned 3 without moving.

 

[WestCoastNinja]

That's techchasing, He can do it to the aforementioned 3 without moving.

Ok cool. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

 

[handsockpuppet]

i edited the chaingrab portion. just so we're clear, is it possible for wolf to brake the CG with down-B? i know fox's and falco's reflectors take one frame to activate. and can bowser do up-B?

Edit: i added the invisible bike glitch too.

 

[Bouse]

Pretty sure they can't, the hitstun is too long.

 

[Bouse]

Sorry about double post:

Wolf can evade it with his down+b if you're not perfect, same with Bowser. I'd just use it sparingly so that they don't realize what's happening until you do it. However Bowser's Up+B isn't really a problem, pivot biting and F-smashing him are two easily chained abilities to that. So you can chaingrab them... you just can't be sloppy about it. Aka... learn to be frame perfect you jackals!

Oh and I fought my friend's DK for about half an hour, he can't get out until about 100%. Then D-throw to Fsmash + edge guarding=win.

 

[handsockpuppet]

added. thank you for that. Dk can get outm at 100% though? too bad.

LOL, it's so much tougher on open ground the my stage called "Wario Wall." it's pretty much two walls with only one space in between (with relaxing Animel Crossing music), for which you can easily infinite wall grab Ike (or whoever else, i just like tormenting Ike).

 

[handsockpuppet]

I just added a warioman section and a few more discoveries. hunting down and finding threads with discoveries is tough. if you have one, please post it with a thread link.

 

[cyclops4ever]

hmmm i thought i said this before but you didnt post it. wario's downthrown on the edge works like fox's did in melee. it spikes. its pretty strong too. can kill at 0 percent at times.

 

[PhantomX]

I discovered that Wario was the origin of all life.

 

[handsockpuppet]

hmmm i thought i said this before but you didnt post it. wario's downthrown on the edge works like fox's did in melee. it spikes. its pretty strong too. can kill at 0 percent at times.

i'd hate to doubt you, but could you please get a video of that?

 

[darkspatan117]

for those who say wario has a chain grab you're all wrong everybody can just sidestep out of it even Dk but it can be a good follow up for fsmash