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The Walking Dead Game by Telltale [WARNING SPOILERS!]

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This is the discussion for Seasons 1 and 2 of The Walking Dead Game by Telltale
BE WARNED THERE WILL BE SPOILER TALK HERE!

Discuss your decisions made on Season 1 and Season 2 here

My reaction to Season 1 was, "omg I'm so sad but this was GOTY" Lee's death made me cry so hard :,(

I recently watched played Season 2's ending and I chose to save Kenny, he's family. He was more important than a self-centered loner girl that wants me to stop caring about people. I watched the other endings too. I cried at every single thing that happens to Kenny :,(

I also can't kill people for being "worthless" or "useless". I value a human's life more than my own life. I will only let them go if they are no longer humane, betray me, or are necessary to protect a group in that instant.

This is why I saved Ben, Sarah, Nick, and chose Kenny over Jane.


Now that I'm done with dumping out my feel bucket, what did you guys choose to do? :)
 

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I personally haven't played it, but Kenny was probably my favorite character based on the LPs I've seen. He seemed the most level-headed (surprisingly, given how many fights he can potentially get into, especially with the old man) and it *really* killed me when his family's story took the turn that it did.
 

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Fair enough, I'm probably misremembering since it's been a while since I watched the LP.
Haha Kenny is the complete opposite of levelheaded, his temper is really short. But I've known some Kennys in my family so I knew what to think and do with him.
 

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Whenever I played both seasons, I would usually try to act neutral and save as many people as you can (except when I impaled Danny with a pitchfork).

I never really agreed on everything Kenny did in Season 1 (I tried helping Lily's dad and I would occasionally argue with him), although by the end of episode 5, Kenny was one of my favorite characters in the game. Also I'm probably one of the only people who actually liked and felt bad for Ben, mainly because of the scene in episode 5 when he yells at Kenny (only if you saved him in Crawford). Omid was my overall favorite character, although sadly he didn't make it past the first 5 minutes of Season 2.

Choosing between Kenny and Jane was probably the most difficult choice I had to make for both seasons, though in the end, I had to go with not shooting Kenny. Sure, Kenny was overreacting a bit too much, but I knew that he was only doing it because he cared about his friends/family (and I had a feeling Jane acted like the baby was dead to try and show Kenny for who he truly was). When I found out that Jane really did hide the baby, I did not regret letting her die at all, considering something bad could have happened to the baby while they were fighting.

Of all the endings in Season 2, I felt that the one where you find Wellington and stay without Kenny was the saddest (call me a baby but I burst into tears when Kenny gave me his hat). While Season 1 in my opinion was better than Season 2, the latter definitely had me in tears with this ending (I honestly didn't cry at Season 1's ending mainly because we all knew what was going to happen at the end of episode 4).


Sorry if I went a bit too in-depth, but I just really love TWD game series.

P.S. Whether or not you hate Kenny or Jane, I think everyone can agree that this piece of crap was the worst
 

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Whenever I played both seasons, I would usually try to act neutral and save as many people as you can (except when I impaled Danny with a pitchfork).

I never really agreed on everything Kenny did in Season 1 (I tried helping Lily's dad and I would occasionally argue with him), although by the end of episode 5, Kenny was one of my favorite characters in the game. Also I'm probably one of the only people who actually liked and felt bad for Ben, mainly because of the scene in episode 5 when he yells at Kenny (only if you saved him in Crawford). Omid was my overall favorite character, although sadly he didn't make it past the first 5 minutes of Season 2.

Choosing between Kenny and Jane was probably the most difficult choice I had to make for both seasons, though in the end, I had to go with not shooting Kenny. Sure, Kenny was overreacting a bit too much, but I knew that he was only doing it because he cared about his friends/family (and I had a feeling Jane acted like the baby was dead to try and show Kenny for who he truly was). When I found out that Jane really did hide the baby, I did not regret letting her die at all, considering something bad could have happened to the baby while they were fighting.

Of all the endings in Season 2, I felt that the one where you find Wellington and stay without Kenny was the saddest (call me a baby but I burst into tears when Kenny gave me his hat). While Season 1 in my opinion was better than Season 2, the latter definitely had me in tears with this ending (I honestly didn't cry at Season 1's ending mainly because we all knew what was going to happen at the end of episode 4).


Sorry if I went a bit too in-depth, but I just really love TWD game series.

P.S. Whether or not you hate Kenny or Jane, I think everyone can agree that this piece of crap was the worst
Very nice analysis, I made the same choices you did basically (well besides killing Danny) but I have to say that Arvo was the worst thing ever! There's an entire subreddit dedicated to posting hate messages about him xD

And I cried at both season's endings so I'm more of a crybaby than you xD
 

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Heh, sorry for the long post.

Argh... the ending to the second season.. None of the endings are satisfying, although perhaps that is the point. Does nothing for my dissatisfaction though. My first play through of the final scene with Jane and Kenny I had absolutely no suspicions that the former would do something so poorly thought out, particularly because she was seemingly rational the entire time we've had her in the cast (save for those ten minutes with Luke; I mean, come on). I was under the impression also that Kenny definitively saw AJ dead and not some trick.

To digress, I really liked both Jane and Kenny. The former was seemingly smart and pretty (yeah I'm shallow like that) and Kenny made you love him with his history (even though he certainly made it tough all the times he consistently said or did something out of line (I distinctly remember he didn't follow my Lee to save Clem because I couldn't always defend his crazy ass)). So when suddenly the game asks me to pick up a gun, I do so and then receive ludicrous options.

Why oh why couldn't I just shoot Kenny's hand, the one holding the knife, or something? Gaaah... So... I shot Kenny, because at that point he was the aggressor, the one wanting to commit murder. By all means he was the one closer to my heart because of the time spent with him, but there's just no way in that position I'd just effectively watch (she looks away) him kill someone else just because he was off the rails. For all we knew, it truly could've been an accident..

Anyways, afterwards she ends up explaining to me that this was all her plot (gone awry) and the first thing I had to say was that she was ****ing nuts. Neither the first or even the second season did Kenny ever in all the times he did some stupid **** did he ever do something on this level of megaton stupid, it almost ejects me from the game because it was hard to imagine someone rationalize that, particularly someone that seemed pretty caring (deep down, I mean) and sensible.

Then the game asks you if Clem forgives her or if you want to say you don't want to go anywhere with her, which raised another flag that this was a decisive choice. Did I forgive truly? Not at all. But I chose to "say" that because for the most part, unless there are ****ing babies around, it's better to keep her at my side for the pragmatism of it. Then I let those strangers into Carver's ex-community because I'm nice like that.

To be honest, at that point the whole zombie survival thing has become a bit tired, particularly in that certain conclusion. It's becoming repetitious, the questions being raised and the scenarios. Season 2 had some good moments that used up some unused concepts for the plot, but I worry for my interest in Season 3. Although the ending in Wellington is the one that partially promises something new, although I remain skeptical. Leaving with Kenny is what I would've done anyhow because if I stuck with him that far like hell do I care about some "supposed" safe haven more than his well-being.

I've mostly been playing this game because I usually enjoy the narrative and I like making decisions, but regarding the latter, most of the time, like many people say online, it's more illusory and inconsequential which initially actually drove me away from Season 1. I understand the series would require much more work to be like that, but that's what the game, I thought, touted itself to be, so when I eventually discovered the story keeps you going down along the middle I felt pretty unmotivated to continue.

This final episode was the first time it ever actually fit the description I initially thought of it, but it's a bit too late to convince me it'll be like that from hereon out, especially since it was the ending where it is easy and safe to make such differences. And as much as I love alternate endings (love me some SMT), I wanted a distinct story for my character and not the one that I was pulled along through with mere differences in dialogue and the manner and timing in which certain characters die.

But for what the game is, it's pretty good, and I'm hopeful that my fears will be unfounded for the next season.

Also, Bonnie and Arvo suck total ass. I had Clem forgive the **** out of the former at Carver's prison even though my feels told me "HELL NAW!" and she still treats me like ass because I listened to Luke over her when it was all about Luke to begin with? And whose fat ass was it that made the ice break to begin with when I was clearing out the zombies? (Honestly I made that choice thinking we were both going to be doing the shooting and Luke, using the minimal amount of weight possible, his own, would crawl away from the hole). And Arvo, the entire time Clem, whether you like it or not, expresses concern over his treatment by Kenny, still has the audacity to shoot that little girl because, what, I screamed for my friends when you were doing them wrong? Okay, perhaps screaming might've been a bit risky, but god damn I'm pretty sure that happens regardless, am I right? And I didn't even steal from the dude in the previous episode, even though I could have easily justified doing so with some pretty solid logic. Partially thought it was a choice because it'd have consequences later on, but nope, you get ****ed regardless of how much of an irrational saint you are.

Edit: Ohhh oh, also, I was curious as to how differently the ending plays out after the initial one with Jane, so I looked away (somewhat hoped that when she would look back, Kenny didn't do it, but nah that'd be too soft amiright?) and then right after there's STILL the option to shoot Kenny and I just could not believe it so out of incredulous curiosity I clicked it and I was met with the most depressing of reactions from him that made me instantly regret picking it. But needless to say my arms were out, jaw dropped, couldn't believe what was happening with that hahaha.
 
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Heh, sorry for the long post.

Argh... the ending to the second season.. None of the endings are satisfying, although perhaps that is the point. Does nothing for my dissatisfaction though. My first play through of the final scene with Jane and Kenny I had absolutely no suspicions that the former would do something so poorly thought out, particularly because she was seemingly rational the entire time we've had her in the cast (save for those ten minutes with Luke; I mean, come on). I was under the impression also that Kenny definitively saw AJ dead and not some trick.

To digress, I really liked both Jane and Kenny. The former was seemingly smart and pretty (yeah I'm shallow like that) and Kenny made you love him with his history (even though he certainly made it tough all the times he consistently said or did something out of line (I distinctly remember he didn't follow my Lee to save Clem because I couldn't always defend his crazy ***)). So when suddenly the game asks me to pick up a gun, I do so and then receive ludicrous options.

Why oh why couldn't I just shoot Kenny's hand, the one holding the knife, or something? Gaaah... So... I shot Kenny, because at that point he was the aggressor, the one wanting to commit murder. By all means he was the one closer to my heart because of the time spent with him, but there's just no way in that position I'd just effectively watch (she looks away) him kill someone else just because he was off the rails. For all we knew, it truly could've been an accident..

Anyways, afterwards she ends up explaining to me that this was all her plot (gone awry) and the first thing I had to say was that she was ****ing nuts. Neither the first or even the second season did Kenny ever in all the times he did some stupid **** did he ever do something on this level of megaton stupid, it almost ejects me from the game because it was hard to imagine someone rationalize that, particularly someone that seemed pretty caring (deep down, I mean) and sensible.

Then the game asks you if Clem forgives her or if you want to say you don't want to go anywhere with her, which raised another flag that this was a decisive choice. Did I forgive truly? Not at all. But I chose to "say" that because for the most part, unless there are ****ing babies around, it's better to keep her at my side for the pragmatism of it. Then I let those strangers into Carver's ex-community because I'm nice like that.

To be honest, at that point the whole zombie survival thing has become a bit tired, particularly in that certain conclusion. It's becoming repetitious, the questions being raised and the scenarios. Season 2 had some good moments that used up some unused concepts for the plot, but I worry for my interest in Season 3. Although the ending in Wellington is the one that partially promises something new, although I remain skeptical. Leaving with Kenny is what I would've done anyhow because if I stuck with him that far like hell do I care about some "supposed" safe haven more than his well-being.

I've mostly been playing this game because I usually enjoy the narrative and I like making decisions, but regarding the latter, most of the time, like many people say online, it's more illusory and inconsequential which initially actually drove me away from Season 1. I understand the series would require much more work to be like that, but that's what the game, I thought, touted itself to be, so when I eventually discovered the story keeps you going down along the middle I felt pretty unmotivated to continue.

This final episode was the first time it ever actually fit the description I initially thought of it, but it's a bit too late to convince me it'll be like that from hereon out, especially since it was the ending where it is easy and safe to make such differences. And as much as I love alternate endings (love me some SMT), I wanted a distinct story for my character and not the one that I was pulled along through with mere differences in dialogue and the manner and timing in which certain characters die.

But for what the game is, it's pretty good, and I'm hopeful that my fears will be unfounded for the next season.

Also, Bonnie and Arvo suck total ***. I had Clem forgive the **** out of the former at Carver's prison even though my feels told me "HELL NAW!" and she still treats me like *** because I listened to Luke over her when it was all about Luke to begin with? And whose fat *** was it that made the ice break to begin with when I was clearing out the zombies? (Honestly I made that choice thinking we were both going to be doing the shooting and Luke, using the minimal amount of weight possible, his own, would crawl away from the hole). And Arvo, the entire time Clem, whether you like it or not, expresses concern over his treatment by Kenny, still has the audacity to shoot that little girl because, what, I screamed for my friends when you were doing them wrong? Okay, perhaps screaming might've been a bit risky, but god damn I'm pretty sure that happens regardless, am I right? And I didn't even steal from the dude in the previous episode, even though I could have easily justified doing so with some pretty solid logic. Partially thought it was a choice because it'd have consequences later on, but nope, you get ****ed regardless of how much of an irrational saint you are.

Edit: Ohhh oh, also, I was curious as to how differently the ending plays out after the initial one with Jane, so I looked away (somewhat hoped that when she would look back, Kenny didn't do it, but nah that'd be too soft amiright?) and then right after there's STILL the option to shoot Kenny and I just could not believe it so out of incredulous curiosity I clicked it and I was met with the most depressing of reactions from him that made me instantly regret picking it. But needless to say my arms were out, jaw dropped, couldn't believe what was happening with that hahaha.
I do agree that the final episode is a bit emotionally draining (and that's an understatement) Every ending is either foreshadowing or heartbreaking. I understand your reasoning on both ends. It is VERY hard to choose Kenny or Jane if you are doubting both of their reasonings, I chose Kenny because I didn't like or trust Molly 2's Jane due to her easily dismissive nature on group members. Kenny has a good point if you look away, after you find the baby he says that "Jane could've stopped the fight by telling him the baby was alive. She wanted a fight" I realized the baby was alive before the fight due to her tone so that was the straw that broke my camel's back. Ultimately, I don't think I could've went with Kenny after Wellington due to the fact that he wanted us to be safe as he wasn't trusting himself to keep them safe and was ashamed of what he'd done. So, I gave him his redemption. The truly selfless act was what made me realize that's what Kenny wanted and it would clear his mind of any worry.
BUT, I was also afraid that his unstable condition would've hurt him down the road. So I also accept the other Kenny ending. But if I had to choose...I would choose staying at Wellington. He would no longer have to see any loved ones suffer and he could finally be happy knowing the 2 people he cared about were safe. He would either die happy or survive happily, this is what satisfies me the most.


...wow where did all THIS come from? 0_0

EDIT: I'm also salty at the lack of 400 Days stuff other than Bonnie (I hate her so much) and cameos at Carver's place
 
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I do agree that the final episode is a bit emotionally draining (and that's an understatement) Every ending is either foreshadowing or heartbreaking. I understand your reasoning on both ends. It is VERY hard to choose Kenny or Jane if you are doubting both of their reasonings, I chose Kenny because I didn't like or trust Molly 2's Jane due to her easily dismissive nature on group members. Kenny has a good point if you look away, after you find the baby he says that "Jane could've stopped the fight by telling him the baby was alive. She wanted a fight"
Yeah, that's strangely more of a criticism for the game than Jane's sanity, because why in the hell would she not say anything at all when it became clear to her that Kenny was going to plunge a knife into her heart and Clementine shooting him fatally wasn't guaranteed and (probably?) not desired. At that moment I'd be squealing like a pig about the baby being okay to get him off, proving a point isn't worth getting yourself killed over. Ah well, whatever.

I realized the baby was alive before the fight due to her tone so that was the straw that broke my camel's back.
Yeah, watching it again I should have noticed. Suppose I'm pretty oblivious when it comes to suspecting people that I've given trust to already.

Ultimately, I don't think I could've went with Kenny after Wellington due to the fact that he wanted us to be safe as he wasn't trusting himself to keep them safe and was ashamed of what he'd done. So, I gave him his redemption. The truly selfless act was what made me realize that's what Kenny wanted and it would clear his mind of any worry.
BUT, I was also afraid that his unstable condition would've hurt him down the road. So I also accept the other Kenny ending. But if I had to choose...I would choose staying at Wellington. He would no longer have to see any loved ones suffer and he could finally be happy knowing the 2 people he cared about were safe. He would either die happy or survive happily, this is what satisfies me the most.
The best argument for leaving Kenny to go in Wellington for me is to help the baby, which kind of frustrates me when I think about the idea that you could've offered Alvin alone although I guess Kenny would not have allowed that, who knows. But watching Kenny walk off like that is almost as if he's marching to his death, that action felt very final to me as if it was to say it made everything right and he can go die now. And I cannot accept that outcome.

EDIT: I'm also salty at the lack of 400 Days stuff other than Bonnie (I hate her so much) and cameos at Carver's place
I never played that and probably won't ever.
 

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Yeah, that's strangely more of a criticism for the game than Jane's sanity, because why in the hell would she not say anything at all when it became clear to her that Kenny was going to plunge a knife into her heart and Clementine shooting him fatally wasn't guaranteed and (probably?) not desired. At that moment I'd be squealing like a pig about the baby being okay to get him off, proving a point isn't worth getting yourself killed over. Ah well, whatever.



Yeah, watching it again I should have noticed. Suppose I'm pretty oblivious when it comes to suspecting people that I've given trust to already.



The best argument for leaving Kenny to go in Wellington for me is to help the baby, which kind of frustrates me when I think about the idea that you could've offered Alvin alone although I guess Kenny would not have allowed that, who knows. But watching Kenny walk off like that is almost as if he's marching to his death, that action felt very final to me as if it was to say it made everything right and he can go die now. And I cannot accept that outcome.



I never played that and probably won't ever.
Yeah, I think Jane's logic during the fight was very strange. That part could've been better written. And yeah I agree that Kenny walking away like that is basically saying: "He's redeemed so he can die peacefully now"
Going with Kenny is a very nice ending too, personally I like both Kenny endings but I feel I owe it to Kenny to give him the redemption he's been seeking ever since his family died.
 

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WAY more cussing then the show uses, I don't mind cussing (Unlike a certain ***** I know) but this game has too much even for me. Looking at it from a raunchy parody standpoint it's fine but at the same time the game series tries to be serious so you can't think of the dialogue as a parody. The games are a mixed bag for me.
 

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Maybe it's because the charm has worn off or I'm looking at Season 1 in rose tinted glasses but I was quite disappointed with Season 2. Season 1 was leagues better - especially when it came to the supporting characters (I feel the supporting cast of Season 1 were far developed, interesting and, above all, consistent than that of Season 2).

The episodes of Season 1 also felt much longer and gave the player more in the way of gameplay imo. I wonder if the strain of having to devote time to The Wolf Among Us and Borderlands is playing a role in this...

I hope they make a Season 3 because it's a brilliant series but I also hope they make a better effort when it comes to the writing quality with regards to the supporting cast and actual gameplay aspect.
 
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I got the ending with just me and Kenny are alone.
Season 1 > season 2
 

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Okay, at first I picked Jane, and before all the Kenny Fanboys (and Fangirls) kill me, I'm not afraid to say the Kenny ending was 100x better in every way possible, so I was a baby and changed my ending. It's just that, Kenny actually changed so much, that Telltale game made me choose Jane.

...This is weird because I like Kenny more than Jane sometimes.
 

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Okay, at first I picked Jane, and before all the Kenny Fanboys (and Fangirls) kill me, I'm not afraid to say the Kenny ending was 100x better in every way possible, so I was a baby and changed my ending. It's just that, Kenny actually changed so much, that Telltale game made me choose Jane.

...This is weird because I like Kenny more than Jane sometimes.
I feel like instead of jane it should have been Luke at the end.
So it would have been Kenny vs Luke at the end.
 

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WAY more cussing then the show uses, I don't mind cussing (Unlike a certain ***** I know) but this game has too much even for me. Looking at it from a raunchy parody standpoint it's fine but at the same time the game series tries to be serious so you can't think of the dialogue as a parody. The games are a mixed bag for me.
Lol, I didn't notice all the swearing until you mentioned it and I'm watching these scenes again. Thinking on it now it seems like lazy writing. The only time I actually felt weird about it in my play through was when Jane was cussing at Kenny in the car, it felt like just pointless and mindless trash being spewed for the sake of argument.

I feel like instead of jane it should have been Luke at the end.
So it would have been Kenny vs Luke at the end.
Luke was good. Too good. That's probably why he necessarily had to die, which was frustrating to me at the time specifically because I didn't think he deserved it out of the group (should've been that ***** Bonnie or Arvo).
 

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I feel like instead of jane it should have been Luke at the end.
So it would have been Kenny vs Luke at the end.
According to unused audio found in the files, Luke was apparently supposed to be saved from the ice. They probably scrapped this and killed him off since most people knew there would be a "Kenny vs Luke" kind of thing.
 
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I got so pissed off at Bonnie getting mad at me when I didn't save Luke. "Yeah, must be nice being a kid. No one expects anything of you."

I'm like "Pardon me, *****?"
 
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I got so pissed off at Bonnie getting mad at me when I didn't save Luke. "Yeah, must be nice being a kid. No one expects anything of you."

I'm like "Pardon me, *****?"
Ironically, one could argue that Clementine receives a rather erroneous amount of responsibility in action and weight in each conversation within this season.
 

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I got so pissed off at Bonnie getting mad at me when I didn't save Luke. "Yeah, must be nice being a kid. No one expects anything of you."

I'm like "Pardon me, *****?"
Woah, I personally love Bonnie but I didn't know she was that harsh to you when you didn't save Luke, DF. Of course me being stupid I tried to save him and she didn't bad mouth me.
 

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According to unused audio found in the files, Luke was apparently supposed to be saved from the ice. They probably scrapped this and killed him off since most people knew there would be a "Kenny vs Luke" kind of thing.
Yeah your right it kind of would be too practicable kenny vs Luke ending. I think Luke's death should have meant something more.

But Luke's more interesting than Jane tbh :/
 

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Lol, I didn't notice all the swearing until you mentioned it and I'm watching these scenes again. Thinking on it now it seems like lazy writing. The only time I actually felt weird about it in my play through was when Jane was cussing at Kenny in the car, it felt like just pointless and mindless trash being spewed for the sake of argument.



Luke was good. Too good. That's probably why he necessarily had to die, which was frustrating to me at the time specifically because I didn't think he deserved it out of the group (should've been that ***** Bonnie or Arvo).
You don't really think anything of the swearing until you watch the actual show, which has richer dialogue as opposed to "GET THIS MOTHER****ING ZOMBIE OFF OF ME" or "**** WE GOTTA GET OUTTA HERE", can you imagine the show's characters saying these things? The worst it ever got was when they said "The N Word" and it was only twice.

Rick: CARL GET YOUR ****ING ASS OUT OF THERE

Carl: **** you dad I'mma shoot a zombie
 

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What was the deal with Mike and Bonnie? Running off with Arvo and allowing him to handle a gun and leaving Clem behind??? Especially considering you could make sure Clem had a good relationship with the pair...

Okay, at first I picked Jane, and before all the Kenny Fanboys (and Fangirls) kill me, I'm not afraid to say the Kenny ending was 100x better in every way possible, so I was a baby and changed my ending. It's just that, Kenny actually changed so much, that Telltale game made me choose Jane.

...This is weird because I like Kenny more than Jane sometimes.
I was in exactly the same position and also ended up going for the Kenny ending as well since it's a lot more satisfying than the Jane endings/solo ending.

I have mixed feelings about the final decision in Season 2 - it was uncharacteristicly stupid of Jane to do what she did and honestly, it felt like Telltale did it for the sake of presenting you with a difficult final decision.

Regardless, Kenny had been acting like a huge ******* for a good deal of Season 2 and whilst Jane obviously had issues with reliability/thinking Clem = her dead sister and choosing to shoot Kenny at the end made sense imo given how unstable he'd become - Jane specifically stated that she didn't kill the baby and that its supposed demise was an accident and yet Kenny still attacks her. And yet if you choose to kill Jane, Kenny suddenly transforms into Mr. Good Guy.

I was thrilled to see Kenny again in Episode 2 but by the end of the Season it was clear that Clem was not safe around him, especially considering how he reacts towards Clem even if you choose not to chop off Saritas arm
 
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Just finished Season 2, I was really conflicted in saving Jane or Kenny. I mostly just let the game decide for me.

My Clementine pretty much let Jane face her fate.
 
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