The Solid Snake for Smash DLC thread! Such a lust for Smash news....WHOOOOOOOO?

[Swamp Sensei]

Well, I beat the End. I almost Stamina killed him, but I really wanted to shoot him at least once. I did manage to shoot him, and that seems to have taken out the rest of his stamina because the boss fight ended there. Does this mean I won't get his nifty gun? If I had just let his stamina run out without doing anything, would that count as a stamina kill? I'm wondering if it's worth re-doing the boss fight to get his sniper rifle (I'm on Very Easy, for what it's worth).

There's a difference in what happens?

 

[chuckthesmashlover]

There's a difference in what happens?

If you beat The End non-lethally, you get his sniper rifle which fires tranquilizer rounds.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

If you beat The End non-lethally, you get his sniper rifle which fires tranquilizer rounds.

Do other bosses do that?

I tranquilized Ocelot and killed The Pain.

 

[chuckthesmashlover]

Do other bosses do that?

I tranquilized Ocelot and killed The Pain.

The other bosses drop different types of camo that have different effects. For example, Ocelot drops the animal camo, which eliminates hand trembling.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

The other bosses drop different types of camo that have different effects. For example, Ocelot drops the animal camo, which eliminates hand trembling.

I found it later though...

 

[chuckthesmashlover]

I found it later though...

If you unlock a boss camo, you still have to collect it like you would any other camo.

 

[Zajice]

Do other bosses do that?

I tranquilized Ocelot and killed The Pain.

The one you missed from The Pain stops bugs from attacking you, like spiders, leeches, and scorpions. It also makes it so shooting down bee nests makes them follow you and sting enemies.

Honestly not that useful, but it's entertaining.

 

[MSmariosonic]

Ya know... My birthday is on the 31st of august. A Snake reveal would be the best freakin' present evah. :v

 

[Megadoomer]

How is the 3DS version of Metal Gear Solid 3? My brother hasn't played a Metal Gear game yet, and I'd like to get him interested in the series.

 

[Wintropy]

Theorycraft:

Sakurai and Kojima deliberately waited for the DLC period to reveal Snake, aware that the "Kept you waiting, huh?" bit would be perfect for this time.

He will be revealed in the middle of a totally unrelated character's trailer, say the line, fight with the initial character for a bit and both will be released after the trailer.

Ha, I wish~ ;w;

 

[cmbsfm]

Damn I wish I had a platform to play MGSV on. I've got the money to buy the game, but not the platform.

 

[Schnee117]

Damn I wish I had a platform to play MGSV on. I've got the money to buy the game, but not the platform.

Can your PC not run it?
If you have the HD Collection then you should be able to get a last gen version of MGS V.

 

[zeldasmash]

Damn I wish I had a platform to play MGSV on. I've got the money to buy the game, but not the platform.

Do you have a last gen console? The Phantom Pain is gonna be on those two as well. I'm getting the game for the 360.

 

[cmbsfm]

Can your PC not run it?
If you have the HD Collection then you should be able to get a last gen version of MGS V.

I have ground zeroes and it runs at like 15fps(which actually felt pretty smooth.)

Do you have a last gen console? The Phantom Pain is gonna be on those two as well. I'm getting the game for the 360.

No, only last gen console I own is a Wii.

 

[FeenieTheTrite]

How is the 3DS version of Metal Gear Solid 3? My brother hasn't played a Metal Gear game yet, and I'd like to get him interested in the series.

As someone who played the PS2 version (Subsistence), I think the 3ds version is pretty good. It's got some framerate issues, but it's still playable (similarly to the original PS2 version). The updated graphics look pretty nice, especially in the cutscenes. It's arguably the best looking MGS3. Along with improved controls (especially with the circle pad pro or N3DS), easier menus with the touchscreen, and some added gameplay features, the 3DS version is the version I go back to for new playthroughs. Though the game did loose some of the bonus content from the Subsistence edition, it's insane how a game that big fit on a 4gb cartridge alone!

It's definitely the most unique version of Snake Eater in the market. It's probably not the best version in most people's minds, but I think the positive outweighs the negative. If it had an improved framerate, I think it would be the best version.

 

[cmbsfm]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-can-last-gen-consoles-handle-mgs5

Interesting read. Maybe the wii u might have had the same problems if MGSV was on it.

 

[Nonno Umby]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-can-last-gen-consoles-handle-mgs5

Interesting read. Maybe the wii u might have had the same problems if MGSV was on it.

Yeah, a Wii U version would have probably suffered of these problems, but still it would have worked, since it works on the last gen console. Although similar port would have been extremely expensive (since a regular port would have been impossible, considering the hardware differences between Playstations/XBOXs and Wii U) in an already over-budget game. I don't blame Konami for haven't done it. I still hope to have something like a MGSV Subsistence on NX, though.

 

[IanTheGamer]

I came up with some costume ideas for Snake if he returns as DLC:
Brawl
MGS1/ Twin Snakes
Naked Snake
MGS Peace Walker
Old Snake (MGS4)

 

[Ekans647]

I came up with some costume ideas for Snake if he returns as DLC:
Brawl
MGS1/ Twin Snakes
Naked Snake
MGS Peace Walker
Old Snake (MGS4)

Only thing I'd add is a Liquid Snake alt. Otherwise that's perfect.

So if someone get TTP for PS3, please tell how it runs. If it feels good, I might buy it.

 

[cmbsfm]

Only thing I'd add is a Liquid Snake alt. Otherwise that's perfect.

So if someone get TTP for PS3, please tell how it runs. If it feels good, I might buy it.

The article I posted might give a good idea how it would run.

 

[Nonno Umby]

Still, I'm going to get it on PS3, so I will also tell you how it is.

 

[KimKarsmashian]

Yeah, a Wii U version would have probably suffered of these problems, but still it would have worked, since it works on the last gen console. Although similar port would have been extremely expensive (since a regular port would have been impossible, considering the hardware differences between Playstations/XBOXs and Wii U) in an already over-budget game. I don't blame Konami for haven't done it. I still hope to have something like a MGSV Subsistence on NX, though.

Since the MGS series is ending, Konami can, in theory, focus on milking it by producing ports and re-releases, right? Because there are older, less console-destroying MGS games they can bring to Nintendo consoles. They could re-release the Twin Snakes so it's not stuck on the GC. There's no MGS2 on a Nintendo console. I don't understand the MGS timeline or series in general, so I don't know about those side games that may or may not be canon, but why not bring them over anyway? It's not like there's new games to focus on, and porting old games should be easy money. I guess fans would demand new features and maybe updates or whatever, but I'd be fine with a straight port.

By the by, I bought Twin Snakes. Literally the only other MGS game on a Nintendo console, lololol. I hadn't seen it at a decent price for such an old game ($55+ everywhere, that's like Pikmin 3 prices. speaking of which, also ridiculous) until I bit the bullet and bought one that was just the discs but significantly cheaper. I'd like to have the box, but you know someone's gonna put the box up on ebay eventually hoping to fool people into buying it. Until then, it can stay in some old DVD box. It hasn't even arrived yet, ha ha.

Is MGS3 the only one that takes place outside and focuses on survival and the like? I saw some (extraordinarily awful) LPs of MGS1 and 2, and they take place inside military facilities with no stamina bar, so I suppose that's not in those.

 

[IanTheGamer]

Also I have a few new song ideas:
Red Alert (Metal Gear)
Metal Gear Solid main theme (MGS1)
Metal Gear Solid 2 Main theme
Peace Walker main theme
It Has to Be This Way (instrumental)
Rules of Nature (Instrumental)
Stains of Time

 

[cmbsfm]

Also I have a few new song ideas:
Red Alert (Metal Gear)
Metal Gear Solid main theme (MGS1)
Metal Gear Solid 2 Main theme
Peace Walker main theme
It Has to Be This Way (instrumental)
Rules of Nature (Instrumental)
Stains of Time

Quiet's theme would be cool if sins of the father can't be added.

 

[FeenieTheTrite]

Since the MGS series is ending, Konami can, in theory, focus on milking it by producing ports and re-releases, right? Because there are older, less console-destroying MGS games they can bring to Nintendo consoles. They could re-release the Twin Snakes so it's not stuck on the GC. There's no MGS2 on a Nintendo console. I don't understand the MGS timeline or series in general, so I don't know about those side games that may or may not be canon, but why not bring them over anyway? It's not like there's new games to focus on, and porting old games should be easy money. I guess fans would demand new features and maybe updates or whatever, but I'd be fine with a straight port.

By the by, I bought Twin Snakes. Literally the only other MGS game on a Nintendo console, lololol. I hadn't seen it at a decent price for such an old game ($55+ everywhere, that's like Pikmin 3 prices. speaking of which, also ridiculous) until I bit the bullet and bought one that was just the discs but significantly cheaper. I'd like to have the box, but you know someone's gonna put the box up on ebay eventually hoping to fool people into buying it. Until then, it can stay in some old DVD box. It hasn't even arrived yet, ha ha.

Is MGS3 the only one that takes place outside and focuses on survival and the like? I saw some (extraordinarily awful) LPs of MGS1 and 2, and they take place inside military facilities with no stamina bar, so I suppose that's not in those.

MGS4, Peace Walker, MGS4, and the upcoming Phantom Pain have more of a focus on larger outdoor areas, but MGS3 is the only Metal Gear game to feature surgery, hunting, eating (rations function as life recover in other MGS games), and stamina as vital gameplay features (portable ops sort-of had stamina, but it worked much differently and was less about Snake's survival).

As for what future ports for MGS games, I had a weird dream a few nights ago that I was playing The Phantom Pain on my 3ds. The controls functioned like a fusion between MGS3D and Ground Zeroes. Aiming also felt more like MGS3D rather than Ground Zeroes. Too bad that if the game was ported to the 3ds, it would be running at a silky smooth -60fps.

 

[KimKarsmashian]

MGS4, Peace Walker, MGS4, and the upcoming Phantom Pain have more of a focus on larger outdoor areas, but MGS3 is the only Metal Gear game to feature surgery, hunting, eating (rations function as life recover in other MGS games), and stamina as vital gameplay features (portable ops sort-of had stamina, but it worked much differently and was less about Snake's survival).

That's kind of a shame because I actually really love all those things you mentioned. I also saw no camo index in the MGS1/2 LPs I saw, so I'm guessing that's not as important either? Or it just works differently as opposed to a percentage.

Spoiler

I suppose you're all familiar with DSP's MGS playthroughs? It's honestly the most curious thing. I watched a compilation that was basically the worst moments and I'm just so confused as to why he tries to shoot everyone. Is he unaware walking slowly is a thing? Why does he hate reading the menus? Why does he always blame the controls? Gotta admit, it's both entertaining and crazy frustrating.

 

[MacSmitty]

That's kind of a shame because I actually really love all those things you mentioned. I also saw no camo index in the MGS1/2 LPs I saw, so I'm guessing that's not as important either? Or it just works differently as opposed to a percentage.

Spoiler

I suppose you're all familiar with DSP's MGS playthroughs? It's honestly the most curious thing. I watched a compilation that was basically the worst moments and I'm just so confused as to why he tries to shoot everyone. Is he unaware walking slowly is a thing? Why does he hate reading the menus? Why does he always blame the controls? Gotta admit, it's both entertaining and crazy frustrating.

DSP? Never thought I'd hear about this guy on Smashboards. His "LPs" of the Metal Gear games were a complete laughing stock. He actually complained about the game not warning the player about quicksand in MGS3, I first played that level when I was 11 years old, got through that no problem.

 

[Zajice]

That's kind of a shame because I actually really love all those things you mentioned. I also saw no camo index in the MGS1/2 LPs I saw, so I'm guessing that's not as important either? Or it just works differently as opposed to a percentage.

Spoiler

I suppose you're all familiar with DSP's MGS playthroughs? It's honestly the most curious thing. I watched a compilation that was basically the worst moments and I'm just so confused as to why he tries to shoot everyone. Is he unaware walking slowly is a thing? Why does he hate reading the menus? Why does he always blame the controls? Gotta admit, it's both entertaining and crazy frustrating.

MGS4 had some emphasis on the stamina bar still too.

And welcome to DSP. He's infamous for being completely incompetent in every game he plays.

 

[KimKarsmashian]

DSP? Never thought I'd hear about this guy on Smashboards. His "LPs" of the Metal Gear games were a complete laughing stock. He actually complained about the game not warning the player about quicksand in MGS3, I first played that level when I was 11 years old, got through that no problem.

My favorite part is "why can't I run and gun?", with second place going to "the controls suck!" Iconic.

 

[FeenieTheTrite]

MGS4 had some emphasis on the stamina bar still too.

The bosses still had the standard stamina bar, but Snake's stamina bar was replaced by the psyche meter, which affected Snake similarly to the stamina bar, but it drained and refilled differently then the stamina bar. But yeah, it's pretty much just a slight variation on the stamina bar with a different name.

 

[Twin Shot]

The bosses still had the standard stamina bar, but Snake's stamina bar was replaced by the psyche meter, which affected Snake similarly to the stamina bar, but it drained and refilled differently then the stamina bar. But yeah, it's pretty much just a slight variation on the stamina bar with a different name.

Might've had problems with my psyche in MGS4 - Act 2 when I decided to gun all the soldiers down the entire act lol.

Luckily, there is peace inside the cardboard box (and barrel...rolls).

Wouldn't be suprised if we got Big Boss this iteration of Smash with a Solid Alt (unless they just refer to him as "Snake") MGS5 is up and Keifer DID say he voiced a fighting game...

 

[cmbsfm]

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Wouldn't be suprised if we got Big Boss this iteration of Smash with a Solid Alt (unless they just refer to him as "Snake") MGS5 is up and Keifer DID say he voiced a fighting game...

I think it's been far too long for that keifer thing to hold any weight.
They wouldn't spend that much money for a VA.

 

[Schnee117]

Keither said he was working on Mortal Kombat from what I've gathered from a quick google search but then Boon denied it was happening so Keither actually wasn't working on a fighting game.

 

[KimKarsmashian]

Your reaction: Snake gets back in, but he is not voiced by David Hayter.

I'd be bummed. Just a bit.

 

[Wintropy]

Your reaction: Snake gets back in, but he is not voiced by David Hayter.

I'd be bummed. Just a bit.

But...

But he kept us waiting...

Yeah, I'd be a bit saddened that the familiar snarly tone of Snake isn't there.

Still hype~

 

[zeldasmash]

In all honesty, Keither Sutherland is great as Big Boss, so if he voiced Snake here, i wouldn't mind. But this is Solid Snake so......yeah David Hayter has to voice him.

 

[Twin Shot]

I chalk it up as drunken Keifer confusion. He probably doesn't know what Smash is but knows it was a fighting game because it is more known to the overall masses (due to controversy).

This has made me think that when Snake wasn't in the initial release he would still get in the game closer to the release of MGS5...

 

[IanTheGamer]

Though I'd rather have David Hayter as Snake, everyone knows that Hayter IS Snake

 

[Twin Shot]

Though I'd rather have David Hayter as Snake, everyone knows that Hayter IS Snake

Honestly, I totally agree with you and was not a fan of how the Hayter thing went down. We can't change that - and if Konami was moving forward with the promotion of MGS5 by having Snake apperaing in Smash, Keifer unfortunately makes more sense.

 

[IanTheGamer]

Honestly, I totally agree with you and was not a fan of how the Hayter thing went down. We can't change that - and if Konami was moving forward with the promotion of MGS5 by having Snake apperaing in Smash, Keifer unfortunately makes more sense.

Either way, I still prefer Hayter